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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #175 on: June 19, 2024, 07:17:28 AM »
I've seen most of the EVs currently on the market.

Nissan Leaf, Chevy Volt, Rivian, Ioniq, and a few others.
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #176 on: June 19, 2024, 06:20:52 PM »
What will really do the trick for EVs is when they are convenient. And cheap. Think "Model T" and "easily charged."
 
Until that, we're going to be looking at virtue signaling for people who can afford the extra to put a charger in their house's garage. Which means "people who can afford a house with a garage."
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #177 on: June 19, 2024, 07:14:15 PM »
What will really do the trick for EVs is when they are convenient. And cheap. Think "Model T" and "easily charged."
 
Until that, we're going to be looking at virtue signaling for people who can afford the extra to put a charger in their house's garage. Which means "people who can afford a house with a garage."


Until solid state batteries are ready for prime time I don't see "convenient and cheap" happening.  And even then it might be a while before "cheap" is a reality.  And until there's a build out of charging stations (and power stations to run them) "convenient" will be relative to current EVs.
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #178 on: June 19, 2024, 08:14:08 PM »
What will really do the trick for EVs is when they are convenient. And cheap. Think "Model T" and "easily charged."
 
Until that, we're going to be looking at virtue signaling for people who can afford the extra to put a charger in their house's garage. Which means "people who can afford a house with a garage."


I know quite a few people here in Northern Virginia who have no chargers at their homes.

Two of my neighbors on my court have Teslas, and there are several others in my community, as well.

All make use of the rather extensive charging network here in Northern Virginia.

The Wawa less than a half mile from my house has 15 chargers, including several superchargers.

The grocery store where I shop has several chargers on every level of the parking garage.

The building where most of my team works has several chargers on the first level of the garage. They were recently installed.
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #179 on: June 20, 2024, 09:08:23 AM »
I shall surmise, then, that a lot of the people in northern Virginia, and environs, think that there will be no problem with charging.
 
There are five semi-public chargers near my house, which is in a fairly built up area, where most of the houses use on-street parking. You are expected to patronize the pub while your vehicle charges.
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #180 on: June 24, 2024, 10:21:25 AM »
22 reported dead in South Korean lithium battery factory fire.

Doesn't appear that they make car batteries, but lithium car batteries have shown quite the propensity to light off and stay lit off.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/24/fire-at-south-korea-battery-plant-kills-at-least-16-people-report.html?qsearchterm=
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #181 on: June 24, 2024, 01:25:01 PM »
What will really do the trick for EVs is when they are convenient. And cheap. Think "Model T" and "easily charged."
 
Until that, we're going to be looking at virtue signaling for people who can afford the extra to put a charger in their house's garage. Which means "people who can afford a house with a garage."

Tesla is going to make a mint if they get to the point where convenient and cheap collide and they actually produce a "Model T" in line with many of their other model designations that are single letters.  Unless Ford holds a patent on the name "Model T."
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #182 on: July 01, 2024, 02:39:53 AM »
I wonder if the latest Supreme Court ruling eliminating Chevron deference is going to lead any auto makers to sue the Fed over unrealistic mileage standards. I’m not sure how much of the CAFE standards are actual law as opposed to bureaucratic regulations.

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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #183 on: July 01, 2024, 06:55:07 AM »
Tesla is going to make a mint if they get to the point where convenient and cheap collide and they actually produce a "Model T" in line with many of their other model designations that are single letters.  Unless Ford holds a patent on the name "Model T."
IANAL, but I'm sure any patent expired long ago. Copyrights and trademarks last much longer than patents - trademarks indefinitely, so long as the owner keeps the registration current and  defends them so the term doesn't become generic.
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #184 on: July 02, 2024, 11:54:02 AM »
Musk could just go with "Model Tesla." It can't be a worse name than Cybertruck.
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #185 on: July 02, 2024, 11:56:33 AM »
Musk could just go with "Model Tesla." It can't be a worse name than Cybertruck.

Apple iTruck  :P
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #186 on: July 02, 2024, 03:06:12 PM »
Apple iTruck  :P

Unservicable, and out of date in 3 years.  Apple customers are used to fast obsolescence.  "They'll buy a new one.  They always do."

Oh, yeah.  The batteries are glued in.
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #187 on: July 02, 2024, 09:25:12 PM »
Unservicable, and out of date in 3 years.  Apple customers are used to fast obsolescence.  "They'll buy a new one.  They always do."

Oh, yeah.  The batteries are glued in.

And if you don't buy a new one every year Apple will send an update that will cause the car to mysteriously suddenly have a top speed of 20mph.
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #191 on: July 08, 2024, 10:28:16 PM »
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #192 on: July 09, 2024, 12:13:44 AM »
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #193 on: July 09, 2024, 08:55:28 AM »
Kind-a cool.  My great uncle, who died when I was 11 or 12, had a Chevy truck of that vintage.  I remember it well.

$169K, and they haven't started making them yet.  <sad>

Looks like an early C10 model.
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Re: EVs not ready for prime time?
« Reply #194 on: July 09, 2024, 04:58:47 PM »
Apple iTruck  :P

Unservicable, and out of date in 3 years.  Apple customers are used to fast obsolescence.  "They'll buy a new one.  They always do."

Oh, yeah.  The batteries are glued in.

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