Rationing Heating Oil

[WLJ]

Europe? Nope, well actually yes but this is in Brandon's USA

Says stockopiles are down by 70% and prices will increase by 27%.
Looks like it will mainly effect the N.E. If you live in those areas enjoy

New York and New England start RATIONING heating oil before winter as stockpiles slump by 70% and fears rise that families will be left in the cold
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11353193/New-York-New-England-begin-rationing-heating-oil-winter.html

Lets Go Brandon!

[Perd Hapley]

Good grief, can't people just freeze to death a little bit, if it means we get to keep our democracy? Put on a sweater, you Putin-lovers!

[Ben]

I wonder if this is related to the OP?

https://jalopnik.com/theres-only-a-25-day-supply-of-diesel-in-the-u-s-repo-1849687971

[HankB]

. . . New York and New England start RATIONING heating oil before winter as stockpiles slump by 70% and fears rise that families will be left in the cold . . .

In the 2020 election, all six New England states - Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont - voted for Biden. As did New York, of course.

So if heating oil rationing goes into effect, they'll be getting what they voted for, and they'll be getting it good and hard. 

I wonder if this is related to the OP?

https://jalopnik.com/theres-only-a-25-day-supply-of-diesel-in-the-u-s-repo-1849687971

Diesel and heating oil are pretty much the same thing - I knew a guy who used to run his diesel car (a Mercedes, IIRC) on heating oil which was a lot cheaper back then.

[WLJ]

I wonder if this is related to the OP?

https://jalopnik.com/theres-only-a-25-day-supply-of-diesel-in-the-u-s-repo-1849687971

From google

Diesel fuel used in diesel-powered vehicles and other engines is basically No. 2 home heating oil. The only difference is that home heating oil has a dye added to it that distinguishes it from untaxed or lower-taxed fuels. The higher-taxed diesel fuels are used for over-the-road vehicles

So I would say yes

[dogmush]

You know what?  They can have mine.  I will commit to not using any heating oil this winter so the commies up north can have some.   

In the 2020 election, all six New England states - Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Vermont - voted for Biden. As did New York, of course.

So if heating oil rationing goes into effect, they'll be getting what they voted for, and they'll be getting it good and hard. 

This right here. 

[Ben]

From google

So I would say yes

I knew heating oil was in the diesel "family" but would have thought it was more similar to the cleaner burning kerosene. I have a torpedo heater for the shop that burns either kerosene or diesel, and there is a noticeable difference smell-wise.

[castle key]

My heating oil guy tells me that the heating oil is getting hard to find, but it will probably be available. The cost will soar.

He says kerosene is problematic with very limited supplies in the Virginia Tidewater area.

In this area, heating oil costs about $4.80/gallon. That's pretty high, about $2 or more than last year. I bought this winter's oil over the summer. The oil guy doesn't just get a price, he actually has the oil in his tanks, so supply isn't a problem. If the price drops below what I paid, he will sell the delivery at the lower price. That's a pretty good deal other than having my money tied up for many months.

Apparently #6 bunker oil is soaring in price, so of course everything that travels by boat will go up in price, but according to liberals, the problem is actually big companies simply trying to score huge profits.

[Bogie]

Just a concept, but expect use of electric space heaters in those states to go WAY up... Is this just a way to get people to funnel cash to state utilities?

[K Frame]

"In this area, heating oil costs about $4.80/gallon. "

Ouch, holy *expletive deleted*it ouch. I used to hyperventilate when it was $3.29 a gallon.

I miss my Mom, but I do not miss paying for her oil for that huge Victorian of hers.

Pennsylvania is also one of the big oil heating states.


What's your propane running a gallon right now?

[K Frame]

Just a concept, but expect use of electric space heaters in those states to go WAY up... Is this just a way to get people to funnel cash to state utilities?

Sure. It's just one huge *expletive deleted*ing conspiracy cabal. The ghosts of George Westinghouse, Thomas Edison, Nikola Tesla, and Allesandro Volta laid the perfect plan to get oil prices to rise so people would consume more electrons.

 

[HankB]

Just a concept, but expect use of electric space heaters in those states to go WAY up... Is this just a way to get people to funnel cash to state utilities?

And maybe they'll follow California's lead and tell people with electric cars not to plug them in . . .

[Kingcreek]

https://throttlebias.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/generator-charging-electric-car-meme.jpg

[sumpnz]

I’m soooo happy to have a wood stove with a supply of firewood that only costs me time and some run time hours on my chainsaw.

[K Frame]

I’m soooo happy to have a wood stove with a supply of firewood that only costs me time and some run time hours on my chainsaw.

I have a heat pump and a pellet stove. The heat pump was never a fantastic way of heating my home, but it's tons better than oil.

I always wanted natural gas in my home, but several times over the nearly 30 years I've owned my home natural gas prices have spiked beyond belief.

Were I back in Pennsylvania, I'd have a coal stove and a couple of tons of anthracite.

[sumpnz]

I have a heat pump and a pellet stove. The heat pump was never a fantastic way of heating my home, but it's tons better than oil.

I always wanted natural gas in my home, but several times over the nearly 30 years I've owned my home natural gas prices have spiked beyond belief.

Were I back in Pennsylvania, I'd have a coal stove and a couple of tons of anthracite.

I have a heat pump as well.  The wood heat is just so much … warmer.  If I was back in PA not sure if I’d go for coal or stick with wood, assuming I had a basically free supply of wood there too.  If I had to buy the fuel either way I’d want a stove that could burn both well and buy wood when it was a better deal, and coal when it was a better deal.

[K Frame]

"The wood heat is just so much … warmer."

Yep, I've been saying that about my heat pump for years, and that's why I heat primarily with my pellet stove. Warm heat.

I grew up in Pennsylvania when the gypsy moth was ripping through and the state was begging people to take trees off the mountains to prevent wildfires. Wood was basically free but for the sweat labor.

I like coal for a couple of reasons... anthracite is basically smokeless, you don't have to tend the stove nearly as often, the heat value of coal is so much higher (1 cord of white oak is about 30 million BTU, a 4x4x8 coal bin holds about 3 tons of nut coal, for about 80 million BTU, you don't run the risk of bringing in critters...

[Kingcreek]

We bought our place in 1994 in an estate sale of a deceased 84 year old bachelor farmer. He had a big recliner in the basement in front of an old wood/coal stove. He dug coal by hand right here. We can see veins of coal along the creek bank and there was once a drift mine in the SW corner of our land (thankfully nowhere near the house).
He apparently burned corn cobs, wood, coal, and walnuts for heat. There was an old oil furnace also but not sure if it had worked in recent years.
I spent 2.5 years cleaning the place up and making it nice enough for my wife to agree to live here.
Now we have a propane boiler and radiant hot water heat and a wood fireplace we can’t use until the roofers come back and fix the problems they caused. 😡

[charby]

What's your propane running a gallon right now?

Propane has been in a free fall since spring, it's $ 0.86 gallon. 10-27-22 at 10:12am CST.

[Ben]

Propane has been in a free fall since spring, it's $ 0.86 gallon. 10-27-22 at 10:12am CST.

That's really not a "consumer accurate" price. For the consumer, it's what it costs to get it in the tank:

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_wfr_a_EPLLPA_PRS_dpgal_w.htm

[K Frame]

"He dug coal by hand right here. "

I knew some people in Pennsylvania who had exposed veins on their property that they would dig.

[K Frame]

That's really not a "consumer accurate" price. For the consumer, it's what it costs to get it in the tank:

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_wfr_a_EPLLPA_PRS_dpgal_w.htm

What? YOU MEAN COMPANIES WANT PROFIT ON THE WHOLESALE PRICE?

TAX THOSE GREEDY BASTARDS!

[charby]

That's really not a "consumer accurate" price. For the consumer, it's what it costs to get it in the tank:

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_wfr_a_EPLLPA_PRS_dpgal_w.htm

Depends how much you buy, the farmers buying multiple semi loads to dry corn are going to be paying a lot closer to the spot price. Home deliver to heat with, yeah double the spot price for delivery of 800 gallons.

[K Frame]

The EIA numbers are regional/state averages for what home consumers are paying, not what industrial users are paying.

[Kingcreek]

I contracted for enough LP to get to next summer (I hope!)
I think I locked in at $1.60
Last season was $1.06 iirc