Tim Ryan Shoots Like a Girl

[Ben]

Here's Tim Ryan showing how he's a gun guy:

https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp-313137/2022/11/05/tim-ryan-goes-to-a-gun-range-to-show-hes-one-of-the-common-folk-and-yikes-just-watch/

Pretty much every girl I've ever taught to shoot did the "lean back" until they were corrected. Possibly something with the female anatomy. When I see a guy do it, it just screams wuss. 

[WLJ]

"Like a Girl"
The dems consider that a plus nowadays

[RoadKingLarry]

Shoot like a girl?

Like this girl?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1XEFc9WACw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUJLIA0Lwzk

(not entirely convinced her or her dad is just entirely human though)

[HeroHog]

The women I have taught to shoot tended to listen and do as instructed as the only preconceived notions they had were from TV but they tended to believe my instructions and follow them. MANY of them were EXCELLENT shots!

"Ok, you look here, put the post thingy in the center of the "U" thingy with the tops level and the where you want to hit on top of the post thingy?" BLAM! <bullseye> hang my head.

[Ben]

Since the thread might be heading in that direction, I'm not saying women can't shoot. Someone like Lena can outshoot me any day of the week.

I was saying that women going into it cold turkey seem to be predisposed to lean back until taught otherwise, whether through anatomy or fear of the recoil. I've not seen nearly as many men do that. If they don't already lean forward, they seem to mostly be at least upright.

[Perd Hapley]

Even Democrats have moved on from the cradled double-barrel to actually shooting a semi-automatic antipersonnel gun in their ads. Nice.

This seems in line with the rest of his campaign, if I remember right. Wasn't he trying to portray himself as not entirely anti-Trump?

[RocketMan]

Tim Ryan is channeling his inner Michael Dukakis.

[MechAg94]

This was further down on the link. 

[Andiron]

Vance save us from that retard...

[HeroHog]

This was further down on the link. 

LMAO!

[WLJ]

MANY of them were EXCELLENT shots!

My daughter after only a few range sessions can easily out shoot me with my 45+ years experience. 

[French G.]

I have taught a fair number of women to shoot. Some in the military didn't like guns but had to. They tend to lean away. Most of the time it is an upper body strength thing or a perception they are not strong enough. I try to get a forward lean without going full tactical turtle which I am prone to do myself. I try to coach shoulders forward of hips forward of ankles. In general women learn quicker and coach better probably because they haven't gotten internet gun culture ideas of how awesome they are.

[K Frame]

The women I have taught to shoot tended to listen and do as instructed as the only preconceived notions they had were from TV but they tended to believe my instructions and follow them. MANY of them were EXCELLENT shots!

"Ok, you look here, put the post thingy in the center of the "U" thingy with the tops level and the where you want to hit on top of the post thingy?" BLAM! <bullseye> hang my head.

Same. The women listened.

The men I taught to shoot?

I'M BIG DICK BLOWHARD AND I DON'T NEED ANY *expletive deleted*ing INSTRUCTION ON HOW TO SHOOT! I'M A MAN! NOW WHICH END DOES THE BULLET COME OUT?

I quit teach altogether when a guy (I only taught people I knew, by the way) absolutely would not listen and finally ended up putting a round into the side barrier about a foot in front of me.

Lesson done, teaching career? *expletive deleted*ck that *expletive deleted*it.

[Ben]

The Babylon Bee is weighing in.

https://youtu.be/WxQVUNPeWnc

[Perd Hapley]

If it's true that girl beginners are more likely to lean, 2 theories:

1. They're not as worried about looking like they're afraid.

2. Guys tend to have a better understanding of mechanics. We may not consciously know that the best way to manage recoil is to get closer to the gun, but we're more likely to figure it out for ourselves.

[WLJ]

College computer lab I used to work in analogy.
Girls would ask more questions and were more open to suggestions to correct what they were doing wrong.
Guys would sit and bang away at the computer trying to figure it out themselves and were much less likely to ask for help.

Another one. Asking for directions.
Girls: Lets ask that man over there.
Guys: Nope, nope, nope, I know exactly where we are!

[Ben]

If it's true that girl beginners are more likely to lean, 2 theories:

1. They're not as worried about looking like they're afraid.

2. Guys tend to have a better understanding of mechanics. We may not consciously know that the best way to manage recoil is to get closer to the gun, but we're more likely to figure it out for ourselves.

This is Hot Ukrainian Ex Coworker her first time shooting. I find this a typical "new girl" stance before correction (including hand placement). The recoil didn't seem to bother her at all, so I don't think "recoil apprehension" was involved. Admittedly, her arms are not too far off what I was getting her to as at the time, I was shooting pistols Jeff Cooper style. I didn't switch to a more modern stance until maybe 10 years ago.

I recall that when she sent photos to her mom, she said her mom was making fun of her about doing her typical "modeling pose" which I guess she did in other pictures, so there could be a "looking cool" component to how some women (and men) start out.

[WLJ]

2. Guys tend to have a better understanding of mechanics. We may not consciously know that the best way to manage recoil is to get closer to the gun, but we're more likely to figure it out for ourselves.

But many guys are more likely to THINK they have a better understanding of mechanics and more are more likely to argue with you on the matter.

[HeroHog]

Terri before I started stressing proper grip over safety, aiming, and trigger pull.



She had also just been stressed the issue with the side blast of a revolver between the cyl and barrel so she "Tea Cupped". That was the next lesson.

[T.O.M.]

In my experience with new shooters, they tend to be apprehe sive of being close to the thing that goes BANG.  The lean back seems to be a subconscious effort to keep the brain box away from the BANG.  Gender doesn't seem to matter.   Take away for the O.P. is that Ryan has minimal (if any) firearms experience

[WLJ]

A blast from the past

[K Frame]

Not sure why so many people freak out over the tea cup grip.

In some situations it's actually very useful.

[dogmush]

Not sure why so many people freak out over the tea cup grip.

In some situations it's actually very useful.

Like SOB holsters it's useful in limited circumstances, actively bad in most others, and tends to be a sign someone is untrained and more likely to not fully control the pistol, that's why.

[K Frame]

Well thank GOD no one says one word to me when I draw my .45 Long Colt from my SOB holster, tea cup the grip and punch nice tight groups on the target... 

[dogmush]

Well if all you are going to do is stand in one spot and shoot slowly at a target squarely in front of you, it doesn't really matter does it?

You asked why people disparage the grip, I told you.  Sorry that your preferred fudd grip isn't as good as you would like it to be.