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Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« on: November 26, 2022, 02:57:33 PM »
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23428166/college-enrollment-population-education-crash

I am guessing this will also be tying into our discussion on young people joining the military.  A shrinking pool of high school graduates is coming.
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2022, 04:16:34 PM »
Terry drops this on the table merely as a premise without offering an opinion on it:

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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2022, 04:34:19 PM »
Terry drops this on the table merely as a premise without offering an opinion on it:

Here's another one:

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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2022, 12:22:46 AM »
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23428166/college-enrollment-population-education-crash

I am guessing this will also be tying into our discussion on young people joining the military.  A shrinking pool of high school graduates is coming.

The extent to which colleges are recruiting my daughter has been very surprising.  Granted, she’s got the grades, the leadership, yada yada they all want.  But even still, schools I’d have never thought would come knocking have done so.  Vanderbilt.  Notre Dame.  Plus tons of small private schools.  Sometimes with unrequested scholarship offers.  And not small ones.  All before even applying.

I think the next 10 years will probably see a big winnowing of colleges, and especially the smaller, less selective private liberal arts schools.

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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2022, 04:38:16 AM »
I'm a little worried about C.W.Post College of Long Island University on the "Gold Coast" of Long Island.. Three hundred and thirty acres of  wooded campus.  You know how much that's worth as a subdivision if they can get domestic water and sewer in there?

Money talks.  I'm informed that it is now known as a party school for the wealthy.  I started there in the second year of its existence, while it was still "professional."  Good engineering department.  Interestingly, my diploma is in Latin... no kidding.  Every word is Latin.  Right there across the top, it says

      VNIVERSITAS LONGINSVLANAE

I actually had trouble with that once, applying for a job, since nobody could read it.  I told them to find an RC Priest, but then said to just call the Registrar for confirmation.  They did, problem solved.  They did have another problem in that the Registrar wanted to know my "sosh", but I went there before "soshes" were used and they had to do a little paper search on me to confirm my status as a grad-ji -et and was duly edge you catered.
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2022, 10:30:35 AM »
To this day I remember my UW student ID number issued in the late 70s.
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2022, 12:54:00 PM »
I think the next 10 years will probably see a big winnowing of colleges, and especially the smaller, less selective private liberal arts schools.
That would be a good thing.  At least, it would force colleges to focus more on costs control.  I have heard many big universities are nearly as wasteful as BigGov. 
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2022, 01:29:26 PM »
I'm a little worried about C.W.Post College of Long Island University on the "Gold Coast" of Long Island.. Three hundred and thirty acres of  wooded campus.  You know how much that's worth as a subdivision if they can get domestic water and sewer in there?


Is that associated or affiliated with Post University in Connecticut?

And I didn't know (until I just read it) that C.W. Post College was founded by the founder of the Post cereal company.
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2022, 03:39:47 PM »
Yes, Mister Cereal Wrangler Post, Jr.
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2022, 03:44:00 PM »
Yes, Mister Cereal Wrangler Post, Jr.

Is that sorta like Mr BananaGrabber?

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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2022, 04:16:04 PM »
  Recently a young lady I used to work with became unattached from the National Guard, she didn't want to - but she would not get the cv1984 injection.
   I recently did an informal survey of the young folks at work, out of ten guys, only one has registered for the draft and would go - the rest did not even know they're supposed to register and said they would only join if we were being invaded by a foreign military ...
Knowing the kids I work with pretty good ( kids equal 18 to 30 ) they barf at the politically correct nonsense coming from the modern military
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2022, 04:32:06 PM »
Is that associated or affiliated with Post University in Connecticut?

I don't know about that one.

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And I didn't know (until I just read it) that C.W. Post College was founded by the founder of the Post cereal company.

True.  The campus was the residence of C. W. Post and we students were known as "Post Toasties." The enormous property was donated to Long Island University for a new campus.

The campus had a lot of interesting things related to its being a residence of  the rich. There was a dollhouse for Marjorie Merriweather Post  which was about 3/4 scale throughout, including even the specially-made sink fixtures and stove, etc. in the tiny kitchen.  I remember feeling like some kind of giant in it.  Since i was among the first students there, before they started locking things up, my GF and I could wander around through it.  They also had a tower for some reason which we climbed up and made out at the top, and an underground pistol range.  They also had an outdoor range with a railroad tie backstop, and I don't know why they had both.  The outdoor one might have been for archery; I don't remember.

The main building had a great staircase worthy of the movies and the fencing club would have mock duels up and down the stairs --again before the administration started cracking down on  that kind of fun stuff.  I got into fencing a little bit, but it really wasn't my cup of tea.

With such a ritzy area (the "Gold Coast" or North Shore of Long Island), it might not be surprising that my English teacher was "Winnie" (Winthrop) Palmer of the Colgate-Palmolive-Peet business conglomerate.  She lived on an estate not far from the campus in Oyster Bay.  Her uniformed Chauffeur would drive her to the classes and wait around for her to be done with her class, then drive her home again.

"We" had one of the first business computers, an IBM 1620, on which I cut my teeth with Fortran.  Funny story about that, but it will wait for another time.

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REF (Lest ye get the wrong Winthrop Palmer):
https://library.syracuse.edu/digital/guides/print/palmer_w_prt.htm
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2022, 05:09:37 PM »
To this day I remember my UW student ID number issued in the late 70s.

Despite the admonition that your Social Security number should NOT be used for "identification purposes", this rather large college in southern IL-ANNOY used that for the student IDs in the early to mid-70s.  :facepalm:
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2022, 10:49:24 PM »
Despite the admonition that your Social Security number should NOT be used for "identification purposes", this rather large college in southern IL-ANNOY used that for the student IDs in the early to mid-70s.  :facepalm:

Meanwhile the DoD has been using it for enlisted service numbers for the last... 50 years?  SSN on my dog tags.

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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2022, 11:11:40 PM »
Meanwhile the DoD has been using it for enlisted service numbers for the last... 50 years?  SSN on my dog tags.

When I was a kid, I worked at Walmart.  We clocked in an out using a barcode on the back of our name badges.  A simple 3 of 9 encoding.

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You guessed it, SSN.

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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2022, 05:47:26 PM »
Enlisted in 76, SSN was my ID and is on my dog tags.
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2022, 06:13:10 PM »
Despite the admonition that your Social Security number should NOT be used for "identification purposes", this rather large college in southern IL-ANNOY used that for the student IDs in the early to mid-70s.  :facepalm:

U of IL, at Urbana.  I wonder if they ever stopped.
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2022, 06:51:35 PM »
Meanwhile the DoD has been using it for enlisted service numbers for the last... 50 years?  SSN on my dog tags.

The transition was made in 1968. Orders being cut while I was in 'Nam in '68 carried both our service number and our SSA number.

I enlisted in 1966. Still used just service numbers then, and I still remember mine.
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2022, 03:28:15 PM »
Actually, in many past discussions elsewhere of the "sosh," a number of people blamed the military for originally making the number "go public."

This, despite the fact that my original SSA card had "NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSES" in a prominent red arc over the top of the card. (I can't find an on-line example of one like that, but I distinctly remember it.)

I did not get a "sosh" until I got a job at the age of 16(?) in a supermarket.  I remember my mother telling me that I was now "grown up."  I didn't even realize they were issued at birth until Son1 was born (late 1960s) and it was it on the paperwork. I was kind of shocked at that.

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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2022, 03:58:29 PM »
DOD stopped using the SSN for I'd purposes 10 or so years ago.

We all have a DODID number now.

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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2022, 04:18:04 PM »
DOD stopped using the SSN for I'd purposes 10 or so years ago.

We all have a DODID number now.

And the VA can't be bothered dealing with three generations of service numbers, so they use the last four of the SSAN with the date of birth to identify patients.
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2022, 04:31:29 PM »
My original SSN card, note NOT FOR ID at bottom-right corner:
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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2022, 08:18:46 AM »
To be fair, Social Security Cards are still not valid forms of ID.  I don't know of anywhere where you can walk up and spit out a SSN and they will believe you are that person without some kind of corroborating document.

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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2022, 11:18:49 AM »
Here is another thought: It'll take 18 years to even begin to produce more eighteen year old kids. It's that growing up time delay between conception and maturation thing. Unless, of course, you know the way to Kamino and can travel at the speed of light squared ... :facepalm:

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Re: Not enough 18 year olds being produced
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2022, 12:01:53 PM »
Obvious solution.  If you're old enough to get a sex change, you're old enough to serve in the military
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