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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2023, 10:34:27 AM »
Yes I know that. My point was they don't care if it's a race issue or not.
Or that the officers responsible have been arrested and charged.

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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2023, 10:37:39 AM »
So, what did the deceased do prior to the beat down?


Something new may have come out since but he was supposedly pulled over for reckless driving. Something the Chief of Police said he wasn't guilty of.
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2023, 11:02:23 AM »
So, what did the deceased do prior to the beat down?

Nothing he could have done would have him deserving what happened to him here. I am interested in exactly what he did do though, as I haven't yet run into an explanation of that, other than "traffic stop".
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2023, 11:54:08 AM »
Watching the MSM local and network news this morning.  It's sort of hard, watching how they present this over and over and over and the manner they present it, to try and not think the media is guilty of inciting to riot the way they presented this incident.
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2023, 11:55:38 AM »
Nothing he could have done would have him deserving what happened to him here. I am interested in exactly what he did do though, as I haven't yet run into an explanation of that, other than "traffic stop".

Intially pulled-over for reckless driving.  The fight started there, but the driver was able to get loose and flee.  The cops chased him down some blocks away and that is when the real violence started.
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2023, 11:58:29 AM »
Intially pulled-over for reckless driving.  The fight started there, but the driver was able to get loose and flee.  The cops chased him down some blocks away and that is when the real violence started.

At the first stop I saw one of the officers walk up to his car, open the door, and pulled him right out of the car while other officers had their gun drawn. It wasn't a friendly traffic stop by any means.
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2023, 01:02:34 PM »
Watching the MSM local and network news this morning.  It's sort of hard, watching how they present this over and over and over and the manner they present it, to try and not think the media is guilty of inciting to riot the way they presented this incident.

I can't disagree with that. There is reporting the news and there is reveling in it. All the major outlets, not just the commie ones, are just replaying this nonstop.
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2023, 01:09:58 PM »
No Justice No Peace!

Meanwhile all 5 were charged with murder even before the videos were released.
What justice are they demanding that isn't already being done? Wonder if by justice they mean $$$$$$?

That was a rhetorical question.
Real question is how much $$$$ BLM and ANTIFA are demanding not to riot this time?
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2023, 01:10:56 PM »
Look at the eyes of reporters on the networks - despite their somber expressions, you can see they're happy to have a story featuring "another black man killed by police."

Some are - unsurprisingly - trying to spin the story to blame white supremacy even though the Memphis police chief and all five cops involved are also black.   :facepalm:

They'll be positively giddy with delight if they get some violent riots fiery but mostly peaceful protests to cover.
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2023, 01:14:42 PM »
If murder wasn't illegal the kid would still be alive.
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2023, 01:51:59 PM »
Nothing he could have done would have him deserving what happened to him here.

Nothing is a pretty strong word. If he, had, say murdered or raped someone, I would say he would have deserved being beaten to death, weather or not it would be a good idea.  Extrajudicial executions are rarely good ideas.  For reckless driving, nope.  That is just my opinion.

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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2023, 02:52:15 PM »
ANTIFA is openly calling for violence

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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2023, 04:18:00 PM »
  Wow, I finally watched the video's - amazing that they've been getting away with this ( with all the cameras out there these days ) 
 This beating was totally normal for these cops, it is only because Tyre died and the place the story got in the news cycle, that is has blown up like it has.
  Very interesting case, I wonder what's in it for the usual suspects, will this limit or eliminate qualified immunity?
 Will this lead to a federal police force?
 BTW - remind me to stay far away from Memphis
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2023, 07:33:09 PM »
I'm also of the opinion that this wasn't a first time event for those cops. I also believe that at least a few of these fine upstanding officer's brother's in arms knew of their behavior and looked the other way because "thin blue line".
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2023, 09:06:24 PM »
Of course it's white supremacy

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    I need so many people to understand this regarding Tyre Nichols. Several of the police officers who murdered Freddie Gray were Black. The entire system of policing is based on white supremacist violence. We see people under the boot of oppression carry its water all the time. https://t.co/H11cuzHPxC

    β€” Jemele Hill (@jemelehill) January 27, 2023
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2023, 09:12:47 PM »
More of that

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    β€” Mondaire Jones (@MondaireJones) January 28, 2023
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #67 on: January 28, 2023, 09:31:50 PM »
And... Some folks are saying that they are bangers, and that this was gang-related...
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #68 on: January 28, 2023, 10:23:55 PM »
And... Some folks are saying that they are bangers, and that this was gang-related...
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #69 on: January 29, 2023, 07:35:01 AM »
No more info - the Vice Lords are active in Memphis, Chicago, etc., and may be starting to get into LE... Different gangs, different cities have had the same sort of stuff. I suspect that this time, the PR machine saw something happen, and just like what happens with a lot of stuff, they jumped on it without looking first, and by golly, they aren't going to change their story - these were _obviously_ white supremacist black cops...
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2023, 08:27:54 AM »
Saw speculation it had something to with gangs in the comment sections of the body cam videos on YT.  With many police force relaxing hiring requirements and basically hiring anyone with a pulse lately it wouldn't surprise me one bit if various gangs have infiltrated those police forces. No doubt it was a problem before but I would bet in the last few years it has exploded.  Memphis has basically been Gangville for decades so it may be worse there than many other places.
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2023, 09:05:47 AM »
More on the Memphis Police Chief

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Cerelyn 'CJ' Davis was kicked out of the Atlanta Police Department in 2008 for her role in the botched investigation of sergeant Tonya Crane's husband Terrill Marion Crane - who later turned out to be guilty.

Two detectives on the case accused Davis - who was deputy chief at the time - of urging them not to dig into the claims against Crane after the unit received pictures of him with underage middle school girls.

Crane later pled guilty to one count of producing child pornography after the FBI took on the case - and blame then shifted on to Davis for taking a 'blind eye' on the child porn claims.

Despite her history as a careless investigator, Davis still became the first black female chief in Memphis in 2021 - one year after George Floyd was killed at the hands of Minneapolis police.
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The FBI blasted Atlanta's police force as 'unforgiveable' at the time for allowing the child abuse - which involved at least 11 girls, some as young as middle school age - to go 'unchecked.'
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Crane's wife, who was a sergeant working with Davis, also admitted to 'finding and burning' some of the child porn photographs her husband had taken of the victims.

A follow-up investigation by the city then placed the blame squarely on Davis. She was demoted from major to lieutenant before ultimately being fired from the force in Atlanta.


Maybe nothing to do with this current case but if true she does has a history of at least one major coverup

Memphis police chief tasked with investigating Tyre Nichols murder was fired from previous job with Atlanta PD over child porn scandal - as protest turns ugly in LA
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11688829/Memphis-police-chief-tasked-investigating-Tyre-Nichols-murder-fired-previous-job-Atlanta.html
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #72 on: January 29, 2023, 09:16:42 AM »
Gangs infiltrating police departments? Old news.

Over 2 decades ago it was known that Chicago street gangs were making a concerted long-term effort to infiltrate the Chicago Police Department. Gang members would recruit youngsters into the gang, but deliberately keep them "clean" with respect to crime and arrest records so when they got older, they could pass a background check and join CPD. Affirmative action hiring greased the skids to hire more of these YOCs (Youts of Color) and many eventually received a badge and a gun. Once on the job, they were in a position to help the gangs - often by just making sure that when something was going down in one part of the precinct, they made sure that their regular patrol route put them at the opposite side of their patrol area. 

And of course pointing this out - or even asking about it - was bigoted racism.
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #73 on: January 29, 2023, 09:23:06 AM »
Gangs infiltrating police departments? Old news.

Over 2 decades ago it was known that Chicago street gangs were making a concerted long-term effort to infiltrate the Chicago Police Department. Gang members would recruit youngsters into the gang, but deliberately keep them "clean" with respect to crime and arrest records so when they got older, they could pass a background check and join CPD. Affirmative action hiring greased the skids to hire more of these YOCs (Youts of Color) and many eventually received a badge and a gun. Once on the job, they were in a position to help the gangs - often by just making sure that when something was going down in one part of the precinct, they made sure that their regular patrol route put them at the opposite side of their patrol area. 

And of course pointing this out - or even asking about it - was bigoted racism.

Yeah but like I said above I bet it has exploded lately with many PDs following basically if you got a pulse you're hired policy now.
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Re: Trouble in Memphis?
« Reply #74 on: January 29, 2023, 10:11:17 AM »
Yeah but like I said above I bet it has exploded lately with many PDs following basically if you got a pulse you're hired policy now.
And something we don't talk about as much lately, but a whole lot of older/experienced cops were retiring or getting the hell out of the major cities once all the COVID stuff and riots started.  We speculated then about what sort of police force would be left in the future. 
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