"Banning" Books in Schools

[Ben]

It has been interesting watching the left regarding the push in many states to prohibit sexually explicit books in grades 1-12 schools. Everything is about "book banning" like the nazis, but when the left was banning Huck Finn, that was all cool and not banning, but about "protecting kids".

I ran into this story this morning regarding a book the left is mad about being on the "banning" chopping block. The book promotes internet porn, how to find "kink" on the internet, and how to send naked pictures of yourself. It's a CHILDRENS BOOK. These people are sick.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/alaska-board-members-brawl-silencing-dad-exposing-book-kinks-porn-im-going-interrupt-you

[MechAg94]

I guess Florida passed a law prohibiting sexual stuff in grade school libraries.  I heard there were news videos showing schools hauling cart loads of books out.  I guess they were pointing out just how many of them were there. 

I am assuming that outside interest groups donate these books to the school?  Not sure.


On the other side, I have seen some people get extremely angry about "banning books" as some kind of anti-first amendment action when all they are talking about is banning them from grade school libraries.  As if there was no other way of accessing such books (like a public city library) or online.  As far as I am concerned, the public library has the right to ban those books also.  If you want them, you can buy them yourself.

[HankB]

There was ALWAYS some limitations on books made available to children - even the Chicago Public Library had a policy of not letting children check out books from the adult section of the library, which AFAIK back when I was a kid did not have the kind of pornographic materials at issue today.

One of the funniest things I saw on the news regarding this issue was a concerned parent at a school board meeting reading - or attempting to read - directly from a book the school library was making available to 3rd graders. The news story had to bleep out quite a few words in the film clip, and the school bureaucrats demanded he stop with the foul language.

The school bureaucrats were outraged - not that the book was in the schools, but that the parent was blowing the whistle on them. Which says a lot - none of it good.

I really don't care what adults read - it's none of my business. But there SHOULD be some limitations on what's provided to children. We don't sell them alcohol, tobacco, or firearms,  so we shouldn't provide porn (normal or alphabet type) either.

[Tuco]

Nothing new.
Back in the early 1970s my elementary school pulled a dictionary from the library shelf because it included definitions - and I remember this clearly as the justification for removal -  it included definitions to "disruptive" words.

Dick-tionary.
BWAAAAAAAAAAHahahaha

[MechAg94]

Did those school libraries buy these books or were they donated by some sort of special interest group?

[MechAg94]

Nothing new.
Back in the early 1970s my elementary school pulled a dictionary from the library shelf because it included definitions - and I remember this clearly as the justification for removal -  it included definitions to "disruptive" words.

Dick-tionary.
BWAAAAAAAAAAHahahaha

Was that supposed to be a joke?  I mean the "nothing new" part.

What happened 50 years ago or more isn't really the same IMO.  These don't seem to be books that just happen to have bad language or mention sex.  My parents let me read SciFi books that had that as a teen.  These books seem to be purposefully trying to introduce pretty deviant stuff to kids at very young ages.  And I get the impression many of these school boards know about it already. 

[zahc]

What we have here is malicious compliance. Or maybe you could say activist interpretation.

Desantis passes some standard (any standard) for kids books. They take the 5 most beloved books off the shelf, take a picture, put on Twitter and say look what desantis is banning.

I'm pretty anti book banning and I can see myself doing the same thing in the other direction if there were attempts to ban politically incorrect classics. If anything it shows how hard the topic is.

[WLJ]

Put this on the shelf.
You can bet dollars to donuts the libs will be calling for it to be banned

[HankB]

Speaking of banning books, it was the schools that insisted Guinness delete many shooting world records from it's book.

https://bobmunden.com/about/records-amazing-feats/

A Note From Bob About The Guinness Book of Records

“In 1981, the year most shooting records disappeared from the Guinness Book, I called David Boehm of the Sterling Publishing Company and asked why. He told me that there is a committee that approves books to be used in school libraries across the nation. The committee informed Mr. Boehm that it would only approve the Guinness Book for continued use as a reference book in school libraries if gun records were removed. To protect the Guinness Book from a black list, that’s what the publishing company felt it had to do. If you look at recent editions of the Guinness Book of World Records, you will notice that most gun records by shooters using real firearms (not gimmicked with things like light-weight aluminum barrels,) are no longer listed, including those set by the famous Annie Oakley, Ed McGivern, Tom Frye and myself. It is a shame that a small group of people on that education committee, people who probably grew up in cities away from the shooting sports millions of Americans and citizens of many other nations appreciate and enjoy, can have the power to effectively erase history.”

— Bob Munden

[WLJ]

Speaking of banning books, it was the schools that insisted Guinness delete many shooting world records from it's book.

https://bobmunden.com/about/records-amazing-feats/

But where will the Gang Bangers get their inspiration from  now?

[Boomhauer]

There has been a steady infiltration of sexual content into children’s books for many years. Now it’s just open and forthright “here’s a kiddy sex book”. I remember reading several books in middle school that had weird sexual content in an otherwise seemingly innocent book. This is a downright evil push.

[Ben]

I'm pretty anti book banning and I can see myself doing the same thing in the other direction if there were attempts to ban politically incorrect classics. If anything it shows how hard the topic is.

I don't like the idea of banning, from whichever side, either. Though as pointed out above, it's really not banning if you can still get the book at the public library or Amazon.

It's always a personal/cultural moral judgment, but personally, I see a pretty big difference between schools offering "Huck Finn", "To Kill a Mockingbird" and the Bible, and schools offering "how to distribute child pornography phone pics" and "blow job instructions for eight year old boys".

[zahc]

Double post

[Perd Hapley]

Speaking of banning books, it was the schools that insisted Guinness delete many shooting world records from it's book.

https://bobmunden.com/about/records-amazing-feats/

It's a good thing they did that back in 1981, or we could have had at least one mass shooting in a school, since then.

Bullet dodged.


Also, I wish gun bans worked like book bans. We could order machine guns from Amazon.

[HankB]

It's a good thing they did that back in 1981, or we could have had at least one mass shooting in a school, since then.

Bullet dodged.


Also, I wish gun bans worked like book bans. We could order machine guns from Amazon.

Wasn't Amazon listing Glock switches for a while?

[WLJ]

Wasn't Amazon listing Glock switches for a while?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/b8s00w/is_the_atf_putting_traps_on_amazon_now_post/

[Hawkmoon]

What we have here is malicious compliance. Or maybe you could say activist interpretation.

Desantis passes some standard (any standard) for kids books. They take the 5 most beloved books off the shelf, take a picture, put on Twitter and say look what desantis is banning.

I'm pretty anti book banning and I can see myself doing the same thing in the other direction if there were attempts to ban politically incorrect classics. If anything it shows how hard the topic is.

They are taking a draconian approach to make a statement.

My understanding of the Florida law (I don't live in Florida and I am not an attorney) is that they can't have books in schools that haven't been approved. Since books can't be approved until they have been reviewed (by whoever it is that the law designates as the approving authority), all unapproved books have to be made unavailable to the students. The groomers "educators" are portarying this as if all those books have been banned. The truth is that they are all waiting to be reviewd, and while some will certainly NOT be approved, most of them probably will be approved.