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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #151 on: April 03, 2023, 11:08:44 AM »
My understanding is that Trump used campaign money to give to Stormy or used his own money but got reimbursed by his campaign.  Something like that.
I have heard that.  I have also heard the "crime" is very minor, they may not have actual evidence this happened, and evidence they do have says the lawyer paid it without directly billing Trump.  The other side of it I heard is that most everyone who might testify against Trump have been untrustworthy in past testimony. 

I guess we will see where this goes.
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #152 on: April 03, 2023, 11:32:04 AM »
I have heard that.  I have also heard the "crime" is very minor, they may not have actual evidence this happened, and evidence they do have says the lawyer paid it without directly billing Trump.  The other side of it I heard is that most everyone who might testify against Trump have been untrustworthy in past testimony. 

I guess we will see where this goes.

What I have heard is the money should have been reported as a campaign contribution.  Or something like that, anyway.  It's some kind of mis-accounting or election campaign finance crime.
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #153 on: April 03, 2023, 11:43:51 AM »
I'm really hoping that they don't let him get Oswalded...
 
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #154 on: April 03, 2023, 04:53:50 PM »
Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones $850K for her silence in 1996.  However, he made the payment directly and not through his lawyer like President Trump.  I guess that makes what Clinton did okay somehow.
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #155 on: April 03, 2023, 06:36:38 PM »
Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones $850K for her silence in 1996.  However, he made the payment directly and not through his lawyer like President Trump.  I guess that makes what Clinton did okay somehow.
Clinton reported the expenditure too, didn’t he?

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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #156 on: April 03, 2023, 06:51:00 PM »
And the MSM vilified Paula Jones at every opportunity.
Stormy D on the other hand is being portrayed as a victim 
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #157 on: April 03, 2023, 08:43:02 PM »
What I have heard is the money should have been reported as a campaign contribution.  Or something like that, anyway.  It's some kind of mis-accounting or election campaign finance crime.
But that is part of what I have heard.  They are having trouble proving he paid any money.  What I heard is that is why this case wasn't carried to trial previously.
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #158 on: April 03, 2023, 09:21:08 PM »
But that is part of what I have heard.  They are having trouble proving he paid any money.  What I heard is that is why this case wasn't carried to trial previously.

That, and they're trying to prove her silence was a campaign donation.
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #159 on: April 04, 2023, 09:07:03 AM »
Yahoo reports 34 FELONY counts.

An interesting point from the teevee: Unless someone from the DA's office leaked this to Yahoo, how did they get this information on a sealed case?

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-trump-to-be-charged-tuesday-with-34-felony-counts-but-spared-handcuffs-and-mug-shot-001241750.html
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #160 on: April 04, 2023, 09:14:03 AM »
Yahoo reports 34 FELONY counts.

An interesting point from the teevee: Unless someone from the DA's office leaked this to Yahoo, how did they get this information on a sealed case?

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-trump-to-be-charged-tuesday-with-34-felony-counts-but-spared-handcuffs-and-mug-shot-001241750.html

I’m amazed they aren’t perp walking him.

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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #161 on: April 04, 2023, 09:18:21 AM »
I’m amazed they aren’t perp walking him.

It wouldn't surprise me if they did perp walk him anyway.  Just out of pure spite from DA Bragg.  The man is holding a major grudge against Trump.  It's become personal for him.
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #162 on: April 04, 2023, 09:20:06 AM »
Yahoo reports 34 FELONY counts.

Bragg is just trying to stack as many as he can in hopes at least one will stick. My guess it at least 90% will be dropped on the first procedural challenge.

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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #163 on: April 04, 2023, 10:08:49 AM »
I'd love to see the judge throw everything out at the arraignment and charge the prosecutor with judicial misconduct. I've been let down before, so no biggey if the judge capitulates.  [popcorn]

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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #164 on: April 04, 2023, 10:13:55 AM »
I'd love to see the judge throw everything out at the arraignment and charge the prosecutor with judicial misconduct. I've been let down before, so no biggey if the judge capitulates.  [popcorn]

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I would love to see the judge look up and say You're not Hillary Clinton! Where's Hillary Clinton? I was told Hillary Clinton would be here in front of me!
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #165 on: April 04, 2023, 10:32:34 AM »
It wouldn't surprise me if they did perp walk him anyway.  Just out of pure spite from DA Bragg.  The man is holding a major grudge against Trump.  It's become personal for him.
I heard the Secret Service nixed that idea. Likewise, they nixed handcuffs as well.

Haven't seen/read the indictment yet since it wasn't illegally leaked to me like it clearly was to some in the media, but at this point everything I've heard tells me there was no actual crime except in the fevered imagination of the prosecutor.
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #166 on: April 04, 2023, 11:23:51 AM »
The leak is a felony. I'm sure it will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #167 on: April 04, 2023, 11:31:21 AM »
It wouldn't surprise me if they did perp walk him anyway.  Just out of pure spite from DA Bragg.  The man is holding a major grudge against Trump.  It's become personal for him.

Unless he just wants to help Pres. Trump win the primary.
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #168 on: April 04, 2023, 01:37:56 PM »
Yeah, it looks this is boosting Trump for the primary, unfortunately.   =(

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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #169 on: April 04, 2023, 02:09:56 PM »
Some rather interesting people

REVEALED: The terrifying rap sheets of the ten worst NYC criminals who were released again and again by Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg as he focused on indicting Trump
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11937951/The-10-worst-NYC-criminals-let-woke-Manhattan-DA-Alvin-Bragg.html
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #170 on: April 04, 2023, 02:17:52 PM »
A friend made a good point during lunch conversation... Given the floodgate this opens based on the precedent it sets, don't be surprised if legislation is introduced requiring non-Congressional indictment proceedings of sitting or former POTUS/VPOTUS to be presented to SCOTUS first. The case for indictment only proceeds if SCOTUS determines it has merit.

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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #171 on: April 04, 2023, 02:18:06 PM »
No perp walk.  Watching on tv and only a glimpse of Trump getting out of the car.  No cameras in courthouse so won’t see much until Trump comes out of the place.

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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #172 on: April 04, 2023, 02:19:49 PM »
Looks like it's been getting a little tense between the protest groups in front of the Courthouse.


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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #173 on: April 04, 2023, 02:41:33 PM »
Looks like it's been getting a little tense between the protest groups in front of the Courthouse.

Speaking of, it's a bold, but maybe not bright move, especially during Holy Week, to compare Trump to Jesus.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/04/04/marjorie-taylor-greene-kicks-off-easter-early-by-comparing-trump-to-nelson-mandela-and-jesus/
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Re: The Trump Arrest Thread!
« Reply #174 on: April 04, 2023, 02:48:56 PM »
Speaking of, it's a bold, but maybe not bright move, especially during Holy Week, to compare Trump to Jesus.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/04/04/marjorie-taylor-greene-kicks-off-easter-early-by-comparing-trump-to-nelson-mandela-and-jesus/

Bold but not particularly bright moves are pretty on brand for Rep. Greene.