Nashville Elementary School Shooting

[WLJ]

Just saw an MSNBC segment and the new words for gun control are “gun safety” and “gun reform”

They've been using those for years

[Perd Hapley]

From the body cam footage . . . AN ASSAULT-STYLE WEAPON WAS USED TO PUT DOWN THE KILLER AND SAVE LIVES!!!

Looks like one of those anti-trans weapons they just legalized in Florida. Terrifying.

[WLJ]

Well you know, we are conducing genocide against them by not allowing them complete unfettered control of our children.

On that note

    I’ve said it so many times, I wish I didn’t have to, but the bottom line is you’re either here for the kids or the killers.

    — Eric Swalwell (@ericswalwell) March 27, 2023

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2023/03/28/eric-swalwell-hates-to-have-to-say-this-but-youre-either-here-for-the-kids-or-the-killers/

God he is an idiot

[WLJ]

Speaking of idiots

    These White Christians Devils went from "thoughts & prayers" to actively calling for revenge and violence as soon as they saw the mass shooter wasn't one of their own for the first time in history.

    Keep that same energy for the daily, white, cis, incel mass shooters.

    — Benjamin Dixon (@BenjaminPDixon) March 28, 2023

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/28/antifa-pastor-goes-to-an-all-time-low-with-covenant-school-shooting-take-on-white-christian-devils/

[Perd Hapley]

This is the third trans mass murderer, in addition to the "non-binary" mass murderer from just a little while ago.

Also, plenty of mass murderers have been non-white. I wonder how many could actually be connected to the "incel" phenomenon.

[WLJ]

Note how they felt the need to capitalize MORE

Oh, and now she's trans autistic

EXCLUSIVE: FBI agents are seen removing MORE rifles from trans autistic Nashville school shooter Audrey Hale's home
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11911111/FBI-agents-remove-two-additional-rifles-Nashville-school-shooter-Audrey-Hales-home.html

[WLJ]

The shooter who killed six people at a private school in Nashville purchased at least seven guns legally and locally, according to Metro Nashville Police Chief John Drake.

Drake said those seven firearms were purchased from five different gun stores in Nashville. Three of the guns were used during the shooting at Covenant School Monday, he said.

Still calling the S2K an AR style rifle

Police previously said the shooter was armed with a handgun and two AR-style weapons — one rifle and an AR-style pistol.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nashville-tennessee-covenant-school-shooting-3-28-23/index.html

[WLJ]

Hmmmm

Shooter was being treated for an "emotional disorder," police chief says

From CNN's Michael Hayes

The shooter was under care for an "emotional disorder," Metro Nashville Police Chief John Drake said Tuesday.

"Law enforcement knew nothing about the treatment" 28-year-old Aubrey Hale was receiving, he added.

Hale's parents "felt that (Hale) should not own weapons" and were under the impression Hale had sold one weapon and "did not own any more," Drake said.

"As it turned out, (Hale) had been hiding several weapons within the house," Drake said.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/nashville-tennessee-covenant-school-shooting-3-28-23/index.html

Apparently the treatment wasn't going very well. If I had to guess I would say maybe because they danced around the core problem.

[lee n. field]

Shooter was being treated for an "emotional disorder," police chief says

From CNN's Michael Hayes

The shooter was under care for an "emotional disorder," Metro Nashville Police Chief John Drake said Tuesday.

What medications was, ummm, she on?  Psych meds are another big common factor with mass shooters.

Hale's parents "felt that (Hale) should not own weapons" and were under the impression Hale had sold one weapon and "did not own any more," Drake said.

DING DING DING!   red flag laws.

Drake said those seven firearms were purchased from five different gun stores in Nashville.

So?  I like to spread my purchases out.

[Ben]

That was an intense video.  Good transition from selective clearance to moving to the sound of gunfire as soon as they had the audible cue.  Not perfect, but pretty damn good for a hastily thrown together entry team.

Officer Englebert did a particularly good job communicating and moving.

Concur. These were definitely not "Whatever it takes to go home safe and the end of the shift" cops. These were real sheepdogs. Props to them.

[WLJ]

Looks like they're trying to blame her parents now.

Church coordinator Norma, 61, and her husband Ronald, 64, refused to let Hale - who had recently adopted the name Aiden and used he/him pronouns - dress as a man in their home.

But I have a question, one that I don't see them asking.
Why didn't she move out?
She seemed to be fairly successful at her job so why didn't she move out if living with her parents was such a hell it made her want to kill people?
And apparently she was so rejected by her parents they were letting her live there at 28.

EXCLUSIVE: Nashville mass school shooter Audrey Hale was rejected by her Christian parents who 'couldn't accept' she was gay and trans - as cops reveal she also planned to shoot relatives
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11912163/Nashville-school-shooter-Audrey-Hales-parents-accept-gay-trans.html

[Fly320s]

Gay and trans?  How does that work?

If she was gay, she would be attracted to her same sex: women.  If she was a tranny and wanted to be known as a male and was gay, he would be attracted to men, even though she was a woman, which makes her straight.

Anyone have a flow-chart for this nonsense?

[Ben]

Anyone have a flow-chart for this nonsense?

A flow chart? Is that some kind of a cisfascist dig at menstruating men?

[WLJ]

Has anyone else noticed that if a trans woman (born male, ids as female) is in the news the MSM almost unfailingly will use the her pronoun but so far I've seen the MSM only use the her pronoun for Hale despite her being a trans man (born female IDs as male).

[Boomhauer]

I’m betting she was groomed into being gay/trans. This *expletive deleted*it is insidious.

[WLJ]

And now it's the schools fault

    As we learn more, it's clear the Nashville Covenant School is a right-wing institution in which Audrey Hale and many others were abused. Obviously, this isn't an excuse to attack it. But there are problems with deregulating religious schools + the US's lack of mental healthcare. pic.twitter.com/J1xgZpA3hZ

    — Eli Erlick (@EliErlick) March 28, 2023

    A lot of things need to happen in the wake of this terrible Nashville tragedy, but certainly the conservative love affair with radical unregulated religious "schools" should come to an end.

    They try destroying public schools any chance they get, but here we are. https://t.co/K0jFiDACUs

    — Veronica 'Nikatine' Ripley (@NikatinePrime) March 28, 2023

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/28/trans-activist-says-its-clear-that-nashville-school-shooter-was-abused-at-her-right-wing-school/

[WLJ]

Makes me wonder what they think could be in the manifesto they don't want us to see

    “It should not be published,” Jordan Budd, the executive director of Children of Lesbians and Gays Everywhere (COLAGE), told Newsweek. “The focus should be on how this was able to happen in the first place. There should not be such easy access to deadly weaponry.”
    …
    “Regardless of the shooter’s intentions, the real issue here is the ease of access to deadly weapons in Tennessee and elsewhere,” Budd said, adding, “All children, no matter who their parents are or how they identify, should feel safe and supported at school. That includes a world free from gun violence.”

 LGBTQ groups say that releasing school shooter’s manifesto could have ‘serious consequences’
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/28/lgbtq-groups-say-that-releasing-school-shooters-manifesto-could-have-serious-consequences/

[griz]

Has anyone else noticed that if a trans woman (born male, ids as female) is in the news the MSM almost unfailingly will use the her pronoun but so far I've only seen the MSM use the her pronoun for Hale despite her being a trans man (born female IDs as male).

That kind of leapt out at me when watching the BBC news yesterday.  They usually try to use the pronoun that the subject does, but in that report they referred to the shooter as "she" all through it.  I didn't know if it was some sort of intentional disrespect for the murderer or maybe a tacit admission that they have to use the biologically correct pronoun when the inevitable confusion would cause confusion, and this is too important to mislead.

[Angel Eyes]

Body cam footage of the responding officers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frM1zPPrvaY

[Angel Eyes]

And now it's the schools fault

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/03/28/trans-activist-says-its-clear-that-nashville-school-shooter-was-abused-at-her-right-wing-school/

[Perd Hapley]

    A lot of things need to happen in the wake of this terrible Nashville tragedy, but certainly the conservative love affair with radical unregulated religious "schools" should come to an end.

    They try destroying public schools any chance they get, but here we are. https://t.co/K0jFiDACUs

    — Veronica 'Nikatine' Ripley (@NikatinePrime) March 28, 2023

   Yeah, the public schools are sensible and mainstream. It's these Christian schools ya gotta watch out for. I guess the Romans killed Christians because they felt bullied.

Funny. I've never heard anyone say that public schools are too extreme, because someone decided to shoot one up. 

[HankB]

If that 28 year old woman wanted to get back at a school she attended as a child, she sure took a long time to make up her mind about it. And as for killing children who weren't even born when she was a student there . . . that's crazy.

Speaking of which . . . doesn't Federal law prohibit purchase of guns by the "mentally defective?" Doesn't gender dysphoria fall into that category? (Plus whatever other problems she was being treated for?)

Quite a few previous mass murderers were on psychoactive meds as well - either taking them when they went nuts, or going over the edge by stopping the meds.  Wonder what, if anything, this killer was on.

[Perd Hapley]

If that 28 year old woman wanted to get back at a school she attended as a child, she sure took a long time to make up her mind about it. And as for killing children who weren't even born when she was a student there . . . that's crazy.

Yeah. Makes one question the narrative that she wanted to punish the school for being mean to her about being "trans." Plus, 20 years ago, none of the other schools were grooming kids to be trans, anyway. It would be interesting to know when she went trans. Probably wasn't on her radar in grade school.

In any case, her other targets were another school, and a shopping mall. Maybe her former school was just enticing because of less security, and because she knew the territory. They said she had drawn maps of her targets, which suggests that was important to her sick, little mind.

Speaking of which . . . doesn't Federal law prohibit purchase of guns by the "mentally defective?" Doesn't gender dysphoria fall into that category? (Plus whatever other problems she was being treated for?)

I believe it's "adjudicated mentally defective," and a lot of crazies haven't been adjudicated. In any case, gender confusion is now considered a resume enhancement; not a defect.

[Hawkmoon]

Speaking of which . . . doesn't Federal law prohibit purchase of guns by the "mentally defective?" Doesn't gender dysphoria fall into that category? (Plus whatever other problems she was being treated for?)

Obviously, you didn't get the memo. Gender dysphoria isn't a bug, it's a feature. The shrink profession has decided (scientifically, of course) that it's now normal and okay for women to believe they are men, and for men to believe they are women. "Treatment" seems to be limited to affirming the delusion, and counseling the deludee that he/she/it is right, and that anyone who doesn't support the delusion is an abuser.

[French G.]

The proper response to any metal health red flag laws, OMG she bought guns while being treated etc is extreme pushback from any gun owner. Someone is a danger to themselves or others and a call is made they need an immediate response, they need a same day bed in a mental facility but any restriction of rights after the immediate crisis has to be actual due process, not take the guns away or lock you up and decide the legal why later.

If mental health is tied to guns in such a way that an anonymous tip or a political doctor can make a call and you lose everything the solution will be obvious. No one with a gun will seek mental health care ever. I already don't. The bodycount, mostly suicide, will be enormous.