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327 People Arrested 6000 Times
« on: April 16, 2023, 11:18:16 AM »
From the NYT no less, a report that for shoplifting in NYC, the majority is done by the same 327 people who have been arrested a total of 6000 times. It seems like if you know who the repeat offenders were, you would have jailed them around 5000 arrests ago. If your interest was crime reduction, anyways.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/04/16/byron-york-torches-d-a-alvin-bragg-for-ignoring-actual-crime-in-new-york-city-and-its-perfect/
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Re: 327 People Arrested 6000 Times
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2023, 11:24:01 AM »
DA Bragg: Squirrel!
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Re: 327 People Arrested 6000 Times
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2023, 03:51:33 PM »
 Once they got used to being arrested, they lost their fear of it.
 Facing little consequences, they saw little reason to stop.
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Re: 327 People Arrested 6000 Times
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2023, 11:18:50 AM »
I agree with the general point that a big chunk of crime is committed by a small number of people.  If you prosecute crimes aggressively and sentence criminals aggressively, you can take those people out of circulation. 

The headline I see says "nearly a third" of "shoplifting arrests" are the same 327 people.  How many shoplifters are actually arrested?  Does this mean they did something worse than normal or they just got caught?  That still means 2/3 of the arrests for other people and that doesn't count all the people who were never actually arrested.  Does New York arrest shoplifters who only steal a small amount?  I wasn't sure if they did the same thing as California.

It would be an interesting study to see what other crimes those same people have been arrested for and their track record for plea bargains and such.
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Re: 327 People Arrested 6000 Times
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2023, 11:43:20 AM »
The local news the other day did a story about law enforcement busting an 'organized retail theft' ring locally.  They showed a picture of the storage unit they used that was full to the brim with new, unopened boxes of Milwaukee, DeWalt, Festool and Makita power tools, video games, designer shoes and designer purses.  This is different from casual shoplifting in that it is an organized group of people stealing very specific items to order and to then fence or sell on eBay, Craigslist or the like.
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Re: 327 People Arrested 6000 Times
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2023, 01:09:02 PM »
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Re: 327 People Arrested 6000 Times
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2023, 01:30:45 PM »
Why should Bragg be any different than these other two prosecutors that are soft on crime?  I speak of the two "females" in Chicago and St. Louis, Foxx and Gardiner.
Gardiner also has her first "hearing" today.  [popcorn]
I'm going to have to listen to the news on a transistor radio - unless Ameren gets my power back on today.  :facepalm:
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Re: 327 People Arrested 6000 Times
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2023, 01:41:31 PM »
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Re: 327 People Arrested 6000 Times
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2023, 10:24:53 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on April 17, 2023, 11:18:50 AM

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It would be an interesting study to see what other crimes those same people have been arrested for and their track record for plea bargains and such.

Agreed, but more or less irrelevant to solving the problem... which is expensive for us.  It would be impossible or very difficult to institute an N times and you're out for his this type of crime --similar to the three felonies and it's life in prison concept.

I've suggested that a new sentencing scheme be instituted where the sentences for past iterations of the crime be added up for the total sentence of the present crime.  By law, no judicial discretion allowed.

First time one year, second time two years, third time three years, fourth time six years, fifth time 12 years...

A multiplication factor could be added to that type of scheme.

But in today's squishy-squooshey mileau of what I call liberal "cul-de-sac voters," this would be impossible.

Besides, our prisons are already overcrowded, but I have a non-"cul-de-sac voter" solution for that, too.  >:D

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Re: 327 People Arrested 6000 Times
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2023, 11:34:40 AM »
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Re: 327 People Arrested 6000 Times
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2023, 06:37:58 PM »
At my old store, which was at the edge of a Home Depot parking lot, I'd see at least 3-4 folks/day (that I would notice) carrying multiple boxes out of the store and then getting on the bus, or waiting for a ride. Saw one guy carrying a generator, which he then tried to sell in my parking lot. That was a nope...
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