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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2023, 09:17:49 AM »
The "best" store bought sauerkrauts I've found are the refrigerated types by Clausen's or Flanagans.

The best of the store bought doesn't really compare to home made, but here in Texas even during the winter I don't have a good way of keeping the fermenting kraut at a proper temperature, at least not reliably.

When I cook up a batch I add finely chopped (and already cooked) bacon, with just a little bacon grease for flavor. It freezes well in Tupperware-type containers. Works just fine as a side dish (usually with pork or corned beef) or as an ingredient on a Reuben sandwich. (Pro tip: instead of the usual Swiss cheese on a Reuben, try sliced havarti sometime.) Sausage and sauerkraut with kugelis makes for a fine Lithuanian style meal as well.
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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2023, 12:44:21 PM »
Yeah, the temperature is critical for making good kraut -- 65 to 70 deg. F is perfect.

Too cool and it either won't ferment or it takes forever to ferment.

Too warm and it just rots.

I know people who have set their crocks in pans of water and wrapped towels around them to take advantage of evaporation cooling if the weather takes a hard uptick.

I just turn down the AC. :)

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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2023, 03:10:37 PM »
Going back to the OP. I had a fridge/freezer unit doing the same - freezer still freezing, fridge side growing steadily warmer. After a couple hours of much cursing and tool-throwing, I finally found and removed the coil cover and allowed it to defrost (after transferring EVERYTHING to the garage fridge that could be saved, and learning what a nut driver is and wondering how I ever lived without one). Everyone was sure it was the fan motor, but that was working fine. So I put it all back together and hoped maybe the door had just been left ajar overnight.

Six weeks later, it happened again. Less cursing and tool-throwing since I now knew what to do (because I have become the Appliance Repair Goddess), but defrosting every few weeks was NOT a solution. Found an obscure forum on appliance repair with a suggestion to check the door seals. Seriously? Could it be that simple? Nothing is ever that simple!
Checked the fridge door seal and there was a crimp in the back side with moisture collecting on the outside of the fridge when the door was closed, which I'd never noticed because the fridge was black and it wasn't in my direct line of sight at any point in the course of walking around in the kitchen. So I ordered a replacement seal. I have a link somewhere for obscure appliance parts if anyone needs it.
 
$88 and a week later, the seal arrives in a box. It's heavy and HARD rubber (shut up) and had obviously been sitting on a shelf folded up on itself for possibly years. The instructions/notes said to loosen it up and straighten it out by soaking it in a tub with extremely hot water, or by using a hair dryer and DO NOT SKIP THIS STEP because the gasket has to be flat and flexible when installed. I filled the tub with the hottest water my water heater would produce, and it did not become flexible. I bumped the temp up on the water heater but that didn't work. I filled tub half with water heater water and half with stock pots of boiling water I heated up on the stove. THAT didn't work. I spread it out on freezer paper on the dining room floor and burned up the motor in my hair dryer and that didn't work. Laid it on the driveway on a black towel in the hot Georgia August sun and that didn't work. Called the company back and told them it wasn't happening. They sent me a replacement seal. Same problem. Tried replacing the whole door, but that proved impossible too because Kenmore no longer made that model or parts for that model, so what was out there was it.   
In the end, I used super-glue and flex-seal on the original gasket to deal with the problem until I could afford to replace the fridge - it was old anyway.

They just don't build anything to last anymore. Good luck!
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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2023, 08:36:38 AM »
. . . Tried replacing the whole door, but that proved impossible too because Kenmore no longer made that model or parts for that model, so what was out there was it . . .
Kenmore?

Back in the day, Kenmore used to make good stuff. (More properly, they had good stuff made for them that they could put the Kenmore label on.)

I grew up in a home with quite a few Kenmore large appliances - well designed and reliable. I still have a roughly 40 year old Kenmore canister vacuum that I just replaced the toothed power head drive belt on - I found a "non-Kenmore" replacement on Amazon that fit perfectly.

I said "Back in the day" . . . in the last 10 years or so before Sears folded, Kenmore appliances took a serious nose dive in quality, both small ( e.g., toasters) and large. One of the engineering trade journals I used to get had a column - "Made By Monkeys" - in which readers used to detail problems they had with poorly designed or carelessly assembled products. Recent Kenmore appliances were mentioned multiple times. 

. . . They just don't build anything to last anymore . . .
Ain't that the truth!
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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2023, 08:57:45 AM »
Yeah, generally Kenmore-branded appliances were durable as all hell.

I have a Kenmore branded microwave that I got in 1989; it's actually a Sharpe carousel, and it's been absolutely bullet proof with the exception of my having to replace a fuse after a near lightning strike back 1994.

My parents bought a Coldspot deep freeze around 1969 or 1970. Finally had to get rid of it around 2004 or so when the mechanical defrost controller seized up and the whole thing iced up. I bought them a Frigidaire deep freeze. Same internal capacity, but it was significantly smaller due to massive improvements in insulation, and a lot less energy hungry with improvements in the mechanicals.

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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2023, 09:44:54 AM »
. . .  My parents bought a Coldspot deep freeze around 1969 or 1970. . .
I think the first refrigerator my parents had was a Coldspot - one of those with the "deadly" latch that would trap children inside. It wasn't frostless, so I remember my mother had to periodically defrost it to melt a layer of ice off the coils in the freezer portion. It was white, and matched our Tappan gas stove. IIRC, Coldspot was a Sears brand.

They eventually got a "frostless" fridge ("Hotpoint") and a new double gas oven (Kenmore) which was a good design - free standing, the second oven was up where a microwave would normally be found. The burners were on a sliding shelf - the front two were always accessible, but you'd pull out the shelf to expose the rear burners which were normally part covered by a fixed stainless steel shelf with a vent from the lower oven at the back, meant for warming dishes.

I don't remember the exact year they bought the new 'fridge and stove, but they were in the hottest popular new color at the time - avocado green!  :rofl:

Both were trouble free and still working fine when they sold their house and moved in the mid '80s.
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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2023, 09:58:00 AM »
"IIRC, Coldspot was a Sears brand."

Yes, it was. In 1976 the Coldspot name was retired and Kenmore was extended to fridges and freezers.
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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2023, 10:18:32 AM »
It was white, and matched our Tappan gas stove.

Haven't seen or heard the Tappan name in a while. Figured they were kaput. Turns out they're still around, now owned by Electrolux.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tappan_(brand)

https://www.tappan.com/

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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2023, 12:05:35 PM »
Haven't seen or heard the Tappan name in a while . . .
Maybe I should have said it was a Franklin stove.   :rofl:

Even if products with a familiar name are still being sold,  with all the reorganizations, changes in ownership, etc., it's sometimes hard to argue that though the name still exists, so does the company.
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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2023, 12:14:05 PM »
"They eventually got a "frostless" fridge ("Hotpoint") and a new double gas oven (Kenmore) which was a good design - free standing, the second oven was up where a microwave would normally be found. The burners were on a sliding shelf - the front two were always accessible, but you'd pull out the shelf to expose the rear burners which were normally part covered by a fixed stainless steel shelf with a vent from the lower oven at the back, meant for warming dishes."

I never realized that they made those Tappan sliding top ranges in gas. I'll be darned.

They had 2 versions, at least the electric ones...

One version had all of the units in a straight line.

The other version had a more conventional two units front, two units rear design.
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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2023, 12:30:57 AM »
I have a Kenmore branded microwave that I got in 1989; it's actually a Sharpe carousel, and it's been absolutely bullet proof with the exception of my having to replace a fuse after a near lightning strike back 1994.

I have an Emerson MW with a turntable that is about that same age.  I've never even replaced the light bulb but I have had to replace that little ceramic cartridge fuse twice in that time.
And that is despite it having been "jostled" in a move from one mobile home in '91 and a house in '04.
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Re: Samsung refrigerators are *expletive deleted*it
« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2023, 07:21:49 AM »
"I have had to replace that little ceramic cartridge fuse"

Yep, that's the fuse I had to replace. Ceramic barrel fuse.

Mine was also moved twice... from my apartment in Pennsylvania to my apartment in DC to my house in Virginia.

Here's a Kenmore appliance manufacturer decoder: https://applianceserviceinfo.com/kenmore-model-number-decoder/
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