In God We Trust . . . no more.

[HankB]

The US mint has removed "In God We Trust" from the new 2023 silver coin.

https://www.ammoland.com/2023/08/us-mint-drops-god-from-liberty-coin/?ct=t(RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN)

The motto has appeared on all US coins for over a century. Back in 1907 when the new $20 gold piece was introduced it was omitted - some folks back then didn't like the Almighty associated with filthy lucre - but it caused quite a kerfuffle. When the 1908 $20 came along it was still missing, but the outrage continued building until mid-year it was restored; collectors view early 1908 double eagles as "No Motto Saints."

It's now required by law on US coinage. The mint says the silver coin has no denomination, so the law doesn't apply. Draw your own conclusions as to why this is happening with a D in the White House.

[Pb]

At least they are being honest.  There is no one or no thing the US government trusts less than God.

[lee n. field]

At least they are being honest.  There is no one or no thing the US government trusts less than God.

That.

Not a big fan of civil religion, but I doubt this is done for the right reason.

" For this all do who follow not God's will but their own, who live not with an upright but a crooked heart, and yet offer to God such gifts as they suppose will procure from Him that He aid them not by healing but by gratifying their evil passions. And this is the characteristic of the earthly city, that it worships God or gods who may aid it in reigning victoriously and peacefully on earth not through love of doing good, but through lust of rule. The good use the world that they may enjoy God: the wicked, on the contrary, that they may enjoy the world would fain use God," 
Augustine, City of God, book 15

[RocketMan]

It's a collectable coin, not legal tender.  Not that big a deal in my mind, though I wouldn't be surprised if it was done for some woke reason.

[BobR]

The US mint has removed "In God We Trust" from the new 2023 silver coin.

https://www.ammoland.com/2023/08/us-mint-drops-god-from-liberty-coin/?ct=t(RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN)

The motto has appeared on all US coins for over a century. Back in 1907 when the new $20 gold piece was introduced it was omitted - some folks back then didn't like the Almighty associated with filthy lucre - but it caused quite a kerfuffle. When the 1908 $20 came along it was still missing, but the outrage continued building until mid-year it was restored; collectors view early 1908 double eagles as "No Motto Saints."

It's now required by law on US coinage. The mint says the silver coin has no denomination, so the law doesn't apply. Draw your own conclusions as to why this is happening with a D in the White House.

I worked with Michael Newdow for a while in Spokane. He is the guy who keeps suing the .gov over the Pledge of Allegiance and also the In God We Trust on our money. He was a strange bird. He would spread papers (briefs) all over his office for the night and wouldn't let anyone in. He would also stay in the hospital all day after working, between that and stealing our food from the break room he was not invited back for a second locums contract.

bob

[MillCreek]

^^^Nothing but the best for our veterans, by God!  Or would he have not liked that, either?

[K Frame]

It's a collectable coin, not legal tender.  Not that big a deal in my mind, though I wouldn't be surprised if it was done for some woke reason.

Exactly. It's not monetized. Without monetization, it's not usable as legal tender.

In a strict sense, it's very similar to a military challenge coin. Those aren't marked with In Vino Veritas or whatever gets peoples' panties in a wad when it's missing.

[230RN]

There's nothing religious on my NRA Challenge Coin but a Springfield rifle on one side and an eagle grasping crossed long arms on the other.





They vary from year to year.  They may have a BAR or a 1911 or an M1, etc. on the face. Mine is not colorized at all.

Terry, 230RN

Pic credits in porperties

[RocketMan]

Oh my god! They put evil firearms on those NRA challenge coins!  How dare they!
Seriously, those challenge coins look pretty nice.

[dogmush]

FFS, this is why I hate click bait articles and the internet money paradigm that spawns them.  The article is lying.  The US Mint didn't "drop" *expletive deleted*it from their coins.

In literally 45 secs of googling on my phone while I took a crap I discovered that the US mint strikes liberty "medals" and Liberty "coins" every year.  The medals are not tender, and have a variety of designs that do not normally include "in God We Trust".  Here is a link to the medals they currently have in stock, including 2022's Liberty Medal: https://catalog.usmint.gov/medals/silver-medals/   Here's 2017's Liberty Medal: https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/2017-p-medal-american-liberty-225th-anniversary-u-s-mint-set-dcam/627952/69
Here's 2016's: https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/2016-w-medal-american-liberty-first-strike-dcam/612488
Here's 2019's: https://www.govmint.com/2019-p-2-5oz-silver-am-liberty-high-relief-medal

You get the point.  None are tender, and none have the motto.

The US Mint also strikes a liberty coin every year.  It is tender.  It does have the motto.
Here's 2023's: https://www.usmint.gov/coins/coin-medal-programs/american-liberty/2023-high-relief-gold-coin  It's a $100 coin and is legal tender.  Guess what else it has?

Here's the entire American Liberty collection, just to drive the point home: https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/american-liberty

Ammoland lied when they labeled their link American Liberty Coin, and then linked to the American Liberty medal.  IMO they did it deliberately because they had a slow day and they new it would rile up their reader base to get clicks, but the best case is they are honest but too incompetent to google for 45 sec and read the US mint website they were linking to.  In either case their website is not worth reading.

Don't be the low information person that just passes on bullshit because it struck an emotional chord.  If anything, stories that rile you up need MORE of a gimlet eye on their sources, because media of all types are lying liars and using people for money.

[K Frame]

There's nothing religious on my NRA Challenge Coin but a Springfield rifle on one side and an eagle grasping crossed long arms on the other.





They vary from year to year.  They may have a BAR or a 1911 or an M1, etc. on the face. Mine is not colorized at all.

Terry, 230RN

Pic credits in porperties

I was just given an NRA M1903 challenge coin by a former neighbor who recently passed. It was her Dad's. My guess is it's from the 1960s or 1970s. Not enameled.

[HankB]

FFS, this is why I hate click bait articles and the internet money paradigm that spawns them.  The article is lying.  The US Mint didn't "drop" *expletive deleted*it from their coins.

In literally 45 secs of googling on my phone while I took a crap  . . .

TMI. Lighten up, Francis. At least the article brought out the best in you.

Didn't you at least get a chuckle from the Outlaw Josey Wales clip?

[dogmush]

TMI. Lighten up, Francis. At least the article brought out the best in you.

Didn't you at least get a chuckle from the Outlaw Josey Wales clip?

Honestly? I didn't make it that far.  I'm in a mood today from stupid folks on Twitter, excuse me..."X".

[230RN]

I was just given an NRA M1903 challenge coin by a former neighbor who recently passed. It was her Dad's. My guess is it's from the 1960s or 1970s. Not enameled.

Sounds about right  I joined in the 1960s, when you needed a sponsor, and kicked up to Life about two years later.  Somebody's selling one online for about nine bucks, I briefly noticed while searching for images.  I have my own photoed but didn't want to go through the hassle of sizing them as attachments.  I bought my sons life memberships about 2008 or so.  I don't know if they got challenge coins or not.

[K Frame]

I just left an absolutely scathing post in that threat, essentially accusing the author and, by extension, ammoland, of dog whistling in the worst sort of way.

My guess is that it will never be published to the discussion string.

[K Frame]

Holy crap, the mouth breather neck beards in that discussion chain are just... morons.

[K Frame]

I'll be damned. It was published.

[cordex]

Some of us obviously haven't picked up on the idea that rageclicks are still clicks, and that negative comments drive interaction metrics for advertisers every bit as much as positive comments.