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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #125 on: March 07, 2024, 08:26:17 PM »
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #126 on: March 08, 2024, 12:36:39 PM »
More landing gear fun
Article isn't clear on if the gear collapsed first causing the plane to veered off the runway or the plane veered off the runway then the gear collapsed

United Boeing 737 Max veers OFF the runway into the grass 'after gear collapse' at Houston airport: FAA launches new probe after litany of safety issues
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13174293/United-Boeing-737-Max-Houston-runway-grass.html
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #127 on: March 08, 2024, 12:52:19 PM »
Has anyone seen tracking of these events over time?  Just curious if it is getting progressively worse. 

I have heard some commenters talk about a competency crisis in some of these key industries. 
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #128 on: March 08, 2024, 12:54:04 PM »
While I no longer have much respect for Boeing, I believe they are unjustly getting a bad rap for some of these recent problems.  Many of the problems sound more like maintenance issues where people are doing stupid things like not following checklists and procedures. 
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #129 on: March 08, 2024, 04:54:29 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on March 08, 2024, 12:52:19 PM
Has anyone seen tracking of these events over time?  Just curious if it is getting progressively worse. 

I have heard some commenters talk about a competency crisis in some of these key industries.

I can say that here in Boeing country, the local media covers these stories in detail.  The local FB and Reddit pages are full of Boeing employees pointing out the difference between manufacturing issues while the plane is at the factory, and maintenance issues once the plane leaves the factory.
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #130 on: March 08, 2024, 05:29:27 PM »
Quote from: MillCreek on March 08, 2024, 04:54:29 PM
I can say that here in Boeing country, the local media covers these stories in detail.  The local FB and Reddit pages are full of Boeing employees pointing out the difference between manufacturing issues while the plane is at the factory, and maintenance issues once the plane leaves the factory.

And that should be pointed out by every news outlet that carries a story about a failure.  Manufacturing defects are one thing, lack of proper PM is a totally different thing - with different responsible parties.

A tire coming off could be one or the other; a defect factory installed bolt vs. someone forgot to tighten the lug nuts. 
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #131 on: March 12, 2024, 10:04:35 AM »
Testified about safely issues at Boeing then found dead in his truck. They say apparently by suicide
Cue the [tinfoil]

Boeing whistleblower John Barnett found dead days after testifying against company
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/boeing-whistleblower-john-barnett-found-dead-days-testifying-against-company
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #132 on: March 13, 2024, 02:43:47 PM »
I made sure to book my next work flight in April on American via Airbus
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #133 on: March 13, 2024, 04:25:48 PM »
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I made sure to book my next work flight in April on American via Airbus

I think at this point I'd just stay away from United and call it good.  The majority of problems in the last three weeks have been on United flights, and that points to problems with their maintenance culture, not Boeing aircraft specifically.
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #134 on: March 13, 2024, 08:57:11 PM »
Boeing Proudly Announces It Has Fixed Malfunctioning Whistleblower
https://babylonbee.com/news/boeing-proudly-announces-it-has-fixed-malfunctioning-whistleblower
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #135 on: March 13, 2024, 08:57:40 PM »
Terrorists Decide Against Hijacking Plane After Realizing It's A Boeing
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #136 on: March 13, 2024, 09:15:36 PM »
Quote from: RocketMan on March 13, 2024, 04:25:48 PM
I think at this point I'd just stay away from United and call it good.  The majority of problems in the last three weeks have been on United flights, and that points to problems with their maintenance culture, not Boeing aircraft specifically.

I normally fly American anyway due to the fact that their flight availability out of Charlotte works great for my needs. I could also fly them out of GSP which is close to my house but the connecting flights are seldom ideal compared to just driving up to Charlotte which usually nets me a nonstop.

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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #137 on: March 14, 2024, 07:26:52 AM »
My nephew is a pilot for Envoy, American's regional, and he occasionally flies into Charlotte.
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #138 on: March 18, 2024, 07:36:14 AM »
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #139 on: March 18, 2024, 01:24:25 PM »
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #140 on: April 05, 2024, 10:17:56 AM »
Interview with a Boeing "insider" on DEI and its affect on morale and efficiency. Take it for what you will.

https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2024/04/05/death-by-dei-christopher-rufo-talks-to-boeing-insider-and-whoa-nelly-it-is-bad-n2394772
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #141 on: April 05, 2024, 10:30:24 AM »
On a max to Vegas this morning [tinfoil]
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #142 on: April 05, 2024, 10:39:16 AM »
Quote from: sumpnz on April 05, 2024, 10:30:24 AM
On a max to Vegas this morning [tinfoil]

What model carry-on parachute did you go with?  =D
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #143 on: April 05, 2024, 10:50:16 AM »
Quote from: sumpnz on April 05, 2024, 10:30:24 AM
On a max to Vegas this morning [tinfoil]

Boeing has a new corporate slogan of hope...

"When one door closes, another one opens."
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #144 on: April 05, 2024, 10:59:57 AM »
Quote from: K Frame on April 05, 2024, 10:50:16 AM
Boeing has a new corporate slogan of hope...

"When one door closes, another one opens."
Maybe another could be "when one bolt is tightened, another bolt loosens"? 

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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #145 on: April 05, 2024, 01:57:38 PM »
Quote from: Ben on April 05, 2024, 10:39:16 AM
What model carry-on parachute did you go with?  =D

Thankfully didn't need it.
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #146 on: April 08, 2024, 09:03:36 AM »
An interesting article in today's (4/8/2024) Seattle Times about what Boeing can do to recover.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeings-long-fall-and-how-it-might-recover/#comments
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« Reply #147 on: April 08, 2024, 09:14:21 AM »
Does it espouse the Boeing employees seizing the means of production from their fat cat overlords?
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #148 on: April 08, 2024, 11:54:59 AM »
The article did emphasize Boeing should stop treating its workforce and suppliers as enemies in order to increase share price.
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Re: How was your flight?
« Reply #149 on: April 08, 2024, 03:02:54 PM »
Quote from: MillCreek on April 08, 2024, 11:54:59 AM
The article did emphasize Boeing should stop treating its workforce and suppliers as enemies in order to increase share price.
No thanks. Sounds to me like a lot of commie gobbledygook
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