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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1725 on: September 17, 2024, 11:39:06 PM »
Remember reading somewhere long ago about how killing a soldier costs the enemy one man, but caring for a wounded soldier takes xx* men.  It also puts a strain on their supplies.

*Can't recall the number though.

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« Reply #1726 on: September 17, 2024, 11:57:44 PM »
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« Reply #1727 on: September 18, 2024, 05:28:58 AM »
Already gone.  Tells us to "search".

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« Reply #1728 on: September 18, 2024, 06:40:23 AM »
Wow. There are a lot of people missing fingers on their "clean" hands. Imagine having to eat with your left hand (which is very, very UNCLEAN in the Islamic world) forever because your Allah-blessed Pager of Jihad blew your clean hand off.


And yeah, I suspect that you need to be logged in to see that content. There are some pretty graphic images in there. A good demonstrator video when you want to teach people what happens when you FAFO.
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« Reply #1729 on: September 18, 2024, 06:44:19 AM »
Iran's ambassador to Lebanon also injured by exploding pager:

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-ambassador-lebanon-injured-by-pager-explosion-2024-09-17/



Iran's diplomatic representative to the government was injured by a device targeting known terrorists?

Hum...

That means he was either standing in close proximity to a known terrorist whose pager did what it was designed to do...

Or he was issued one of the pagers that was given to known terrorists.

Either way it's not really a good look for the Iranians.

Of course, they're so busy screeching ZIONIST JOOZ! that they're drowning out that elephant in the room.
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« Reply #1730 on: September 18, 2024, 06:59:47 AM »
Everyone seems to be talking about the immediate aftermath of this attack -- lots of wounded (but not enough dead) terrorists.

But there's a very interesting long-play element here that not a lot of people are focusing on.

A few months ago Hezbollah told its people to stop using cell phones for operational purposes because Israel has gotten so good at intercepting those communications.

So they started issuing pagers, and Israel managed to get to those.

In effect, Israel has made it nearly impossible for Hezbollah to communicate as a terrorist group. If you use a cell phone, Israel is going to be listening. If you use a pager, Israel might blow your hand off.

That really puts a monkey wrench into their ability to plan future terrorist operations and coordinate other activities.

Unfortunately it also means that Israel is going to have a harder time doing OPINT on Hezbollah, but I'm sure they're just fine with that.
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« Reply #1731 on: September 18, 2024, 07:12:45 AM »
If it outright killed them we wouldn’t get the glorious videos of them screaming and crying with massive injuries to hands, groins, and faces

And you know they will either die a slow painful death or be maimed for life. May they have a LOOOONNNGGGGG lifetime of suffering, struggling to piss through their blown off dicks and not being able to *expletive deleted*ck their favorite goats.



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« Reply #1732 on: September 18, 2024, 08:41:32 AM »
Given the extent of the injuries in that video, there is no way in hell that that was a battery explosion. I can't see any way that a lithium battery could generate the power to cause injuries like that.
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« Reply #1733 on: September 18, 2024, 08:56:04 AM »
Given the extent of the injuries in that video, there is no way in hell that that was a battery explosion. I can't see any way that a lithium battery could generate the power to cause injuries like that.

From TDM https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13863369/How-Israeli-spies-stashed-explosives-Hezbollah-pagers-production-level-Mossad.html

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A former British Army bomb disposal officer explained that an explosive device has five main components: A container, a battery, a triggering device, a detonator and an explosive charge.

'A pager has three of those already,' explained the ex-officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he now works as a consultant with clients on the Middle East.

'You would only need to add the detonator and the charge.'

By the time of the attack, 'the battery was probably half-explosive and half-actual battery,' said Carlos Perez, director of security intelligence at TrustedSec.
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'Looking at the video, the size of the detonation is similar to that caused by an electric detonator alone or one that incorporates an extremely small, high-explosive charge,' said Sean Moorhouse, a former British Army officer and explosive ordinance disposal expert.
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The AR-924 pager ordered by Hezbollah, advertised as being 'rugged,' contains a rechargeable lithium battery, according to specifications once advertised on Gold Apollo's website before it was apparently taken down Tuesday after the sabotage attack. It could receive text messages of up to 100 characters.

But they were actually manufactured by BAC Consulting in Hungary.

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Elijah J. Magnier, a Brussels-based senior political risk analyst, later said he spoke with Hezbollah members who had examined pagers that failed to explode.

The pagers appeared to receive a coded error message sent to all the devices that caused them to vibrate and beep for some 10 seconds.

When the user pressed the pager's button to cancel the alert, the explosives were detonated - a design that would ensure the pager was being held by the user at the time of the blast to inflict maximum damage.

That would explain many of the hand and face injuries as many were holding it up in front of their face to read the message

If they're got some unexploded pagers that could mean we could be seeing the insides of one soon.
Hezbollah has probably assigned a group of young children* to disassembling some as we speak.

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« Reply #1734 on: September 18, 2024, 09:52:15 AM »
Death toll now reportedly at 12
They're also saying a nine year old girl was killed but knowing Hezbollah we'll never know if they're just making that up or not.

Oh and more on the Iranian ambassador

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The injured included Iran’s ambassador to Lebanon, Mojtaba Amani, who suffered serious head injuries and lost an eye, according to Iranian state-run news outlet al-Mehr.
https://nypost.com/2024/09/18/world-news/death-toll-rises-to-12-in-lebanon-exploding-pager-blasts-that-wounded-thousands/

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« Reply #1735 on: September 18, 2024, 09:55:50 AM »
And yeah, I suspect that you need to be logged in to see that content. There are some pretty graphic images in there. A good demonstrator video when you want to teach people what happens when you FAFO.

At first I got the same message that the page didn't exist, that I would have to search.  Once I logged in the content was accessible.  It showed lots of terrorists missing body parts.
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« Reply #1736 on: September 18, 2024, 10:42:00 AM »
Round 2

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A second wave of blasts rocked Hezbollah on Wednesday as radios and other devices used by the terror group were detonated across Lebanon, security sources and witnesses said.

Additional explosions were reported throughout the capital of Beirut and in the country’s south following Tuesday’s massive security breach that caused Hezbollah pagers to explode, killing at least 12 people and injuring another 2,800.

Hezbollah’s handheld radios explode in second wave of remote-detonated attacks on terror group
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1737 on: September 18, 2024, 10:51:46 AM »
Round 2

Hezbollah’s handheld radios explode in second wave of remote-detonated attacks on terror group
https://nypost.com/2024/09/18/world-news/hezbollahs-handheld-radios-explode-in-second-wave-of-remote-detonated-attacks-on-terror-group/
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« Reply #1738 on: September 18, 2024, 10:56:11 AM »
Sweet.

Apparently some are going absolutely nuts that at least 2 children were killed.

Apparently they're not at all concerned about the 38 children who were killed in the October 7 attacks in Israel.
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« Reply #1739 on: September 18, 2024, 11:06:58 AM »
Sweet.

Apparently some are going absolutely nuts that at least 2 children were killed.

Apparently they're not at all concerned about the 38 children who were killed in the October 7 attacks in Israel.

Also keeping in mind that with Israel, it was collateral damage, while with Hamas it was targeted killing of children and infants.
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« Reply #1740 on: September 18, 2024, 11:08:07 AM »
Silly you, Jews are ALWAYS targeted killing.
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« Reply #1741 on: September 18, 2024, 11:13:53 AM »
From the pictures I would say these were much bigger booms

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Security sources have now confirmed that hand-held radios were purchased by Hezbollah five months ago, at around the same time as the compromised pagers.

The latest explosions this afternoon have hit the country's south and the capital Beirut, where dramatic time-lapse video shows multiple plumes of smoke rising above the skyline in different locations almost simultaneously.

Multiple explosions occurred at the site of a funeral for three Hezbollah members and a child killed by exploding pagers the day before, according to reports.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13864883/Lebanon-explosions-Hezbollah-communications-devices-detonate-country-pager-bomb.html
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« Reply #1742 on: September 18, 2024, 11:23:14 AM »
"From the pictures I would say these were much bigger booms"

Not surprising at all. Hand held walkie talkies are generally about double the size of most pagers these days so a lot more space in which to shoehorn explosives.

My guess is that this round is going to be a LOT more lethal.
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« Reply #1743 on: September 18, 2024, 11:23:21 AM »
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« Reply #1744 on: September 18, 2024, 11:27:21 AM »
Yeah, have any of the squad issued any statements about how cruel Israel is for doing this and every Jew should be exterminated in retaliation?

Or are they staying away from all of their devices?
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« Reply #1745 on: September 18, 2024, 11:32:20 AM »
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« Reply #1746 on: September 18, 2024, 11:37:09 AM »
The two radios shown clearly in pictures were branded Icom.  They're one of the biggest players in the two-way radio market world wide.
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« Reply #1747 on: September 18, 2024, 12:05:59 PM »
Now all they have to do is hack into the hospital records from the last couple of days and see who was brought in with injuries consistent with a small explosion to get their name and address and then send them a special get well card! :)

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« Reply #1748 on: September 18, 2024, 12:54:45 PM »
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« Reply #1749 on: September 18, 2024, 12:55:00 PM »
BREAKING: Israel Kills Thousands More Terrorists With Exploding '200 Free Hours of AOL' CDs
https://babylonbee.com/news/breaking-israel-kills-another-thousand-terrorists-with-exploding-200-free-hours-of-aol-cds
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