Riots in Ireland

[gunsmith]

 I'm not going to provide a link because all you're going to find is milquetoast media not providing any real information.
    Apparently, an Immigrant of some kind , Algerian maybe, stabbed children and the adults trying to protect them.
   

"right wing factions"

  Are behind the riots.  We all know that opposing having innocent children stabbed at elementary schools is only something those right wing lunatics would do .
 Well, I guess they were at a school, I stopped looking at the articles because it is getting me pretty angry.
 Some folks are saying at least one 5 yr old dead.
I will find out more on Saturday, I am getting a phone call from a friend in Dublin ( we planned the call before this but I will ask her , she's liberal but has been saying that Ireland is now overrun by middle easterners and Ukrainians )

[Angel Eyes]

Keith Woods on X has been posting some interesting content on the riots in Dublin:

https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT

tl;dr: this has been building for some time.  The influx of migrants from, uh, distinctly non-Irish cultures has caused tensions surrounding crime, competition for housing (allegations that migrants are are being given priority over Irish for housing and other benefits, which sounds familiar), and so on.

Of particular note:  https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1727794469720797377

[WLJ]

Some photos and video

Dublin's 'night of shame' is condemned by Irish PM as the city recovers from riots that saw looting and arson attacks 'motivated by hate' after knife attack on children - with girl, five, now in 'very serious condition'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12786503/dublin-thugs-clash-police-rioting-looting-three-children-woman-stabbed-migrants-blamed.html

[Angel Eyes]

Irish Taoiseach (prime minister) Leo Varadkar promising more stringent hate speech laws after yesterday's events.

Their politicians are just as clueless as ours.

[230RN]

"(...she's liberal but has been saying that Ireland is now overrun by middle easterners and Ukrainians )"

You mean reality is making intrusions on some liberal "thinking" somewhere in the world?

Holy Mackerel !

[gunsmith]

 well, they never admit it, but Ireland has a problem with antisemitism.
Their terrorist were often friends of or at least worked with middle eastern terrorist, who were also known for hating people who are Jewish.
  The Irish I know over there had a huge blind spot when it came to the middle east.
 This will hopefully be a wakeup call. The guy who initially stopped the attack appears to be Brazillian - a foreigner - but more than likely a Catholic so he's probably hasn't felt unwelcome.
I will report more after taking to my friend

[JTHunter]

It comes down to one thing and that is some people are in places they don't belong.  This isn't just an "invasion", it is "usurpation" of the lawful authorities.
Sooner or later, the people are going to get fed up with these malcontents and lack of law enforcement and then, the ones that have the ability and "tools" to restrict the troublemakers will do so, regardless of the actual authorities.
Unfortunately, it will get messy but any "war" (and it WILL be a "war") is messy.

Like any "sleeper cell", these "refugees", "immigrants" (whatever you want to call them) are NOT here to "blend in" and acclimate to the locations they live now but to supplant the indigenous people and take over.  Look at how many of these islamists try to make a caliphate and dominate and subjugate everybody in their areas of control, even their own people.

[bedlamite]

It comes down to one thing and that is some people are in places they don't belong.  This isn't just an "invasion", it is "usurpation" of the lawful authorities.
Sooner or later, the people are going to get fed up with these malcontents and lack of law enforcement and then, the ones that have the ability and "tools" to restrict the troublemakers will do so, regardless of the actual authorities.
Unfortunately, it will get messy but any "war" (and it WILL be a "war") is messy.

Like any "sleeper cell", these "refugees", "immigrants" (whatever you want to call them) are NOT here to "blend in" and acclimate to the locations they live now but to supplant the indigenous people and take over.  Look at how many of these islamists try to make a caliphate and dominate and subjugate everybody in their areas of control, even their own people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOvD9Vzv8wk

[JTHunter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOvD9Vzv8wk

It has been said many times by many people - not just me - that the time is coming for the following phrase to be carried out.
"Shoot 'em all.  Let GOD sort them out."     

[dogmush]

Like any "sleeper cell", these "refugees", "immigrants" (whatever you want to call them) are NOT here to "blend in" and acclimate to the locations they live now but to supplant the indigenous people and take over.  Look at how many of these islamists try to make a caliphate and dominate and subjugate everybody in their areas of control, even their own people.

Yeah! Unlike the 19th and 20th century German, Irish, Chinese and Scandinavian immigrants who totally assimilated right away and didn't make little enclaves wherever they settled with large parts of their original culture intact!

[Ben]

Yeah! Unlike the 19th and 20th century German, Irish, Chinese and Scandinavian immigrants who totally assimilated right away and didn't make little enclaves wherever they settled with large parts of their original culture intact!

While we had our "enclaves" which was mostly getting together on weekends or various holidays, I certainly recall getting smacked on the back of the head as a kid if I spoke German if there was even one other person attending that didn't speak German. If it wasn't all krauts there, even if it was other foreign languages, you speak English because that's the language of the land. I certainly never saw that with Mexicans back in California over the last 20 years. Previous immigrants kept their traditions in their homes, but assimilated in public. Modern "immigrants" demand that the rest of us assimilate. When "Press 1 for Spanish" (rather than 2,3,4, or learn how to speak English) is the default, we have a problem.

The differences are that the 19th and early to mid-20th century immigrants didn't for the most part push their culture on others. They may have invited others to participate (I'm looking at you, Oktoberfest and St Paddy's Day), but they didn't force them on Americans, nor try to force Americans not to celebrate things like Thanksgiving or Christmas.

[WLJ]

We've gone from a melting pot to a can of mixed nuts

[dogmush]

There's two parts to that.

First, there 100% were segregated, publically un assimilated migrant areas, they are just far enough back that no one currently living remembers them.

Five Points, the various Chinatowns, the German neighborhoods in the midwest, all of them would frequently have languages other than English as the main language well into the 20th century. The Aisan enclaves still do.  I can easily find markets and neighborhoods where signs are Korean, and if I want to buy something we're doing it through a grandkid or Google translate.

I think it's easy to look at the results of the Third wave of immigration (1880-1914) and see successful assimilation, and overlook we are almost 150 years on from the beginning.   It's also true that assimilation was not 1 way in any of the immigration waves, so concern that "base" American culture (whatever that is) will change is probably accurate. "Base" culture has shifted on each of the four major waves of immigration. How exactly that shakes out is harder to predict.

On your second point of them forcing their culture on others, or trying to stop us from doing something we want, that's an interesting take.  If forcing their culture on us is openly practicing their religion,  previous immigrants undoubtedly did that. To great cultural friction, most notably the Catholics of the second wave. If it's opening businesses and selling *expletive deleted*it from their culture I don't know what to tell you.

If you are referring to the push to downplay Thanksgiving and Christian holidays and include every random holiday on the calendar in schools and shops.....that's not immigrants pushing that.  That's the AWFLs. I might (and do) see a muslim family hang a crescent in their window for Eid, but they aren't down at the school board meeting demanding Ramadan celebrations in schools.  That's the White folks overeager to prove they aren't racist.

Same with Ireland in this thread. The folks strengthening hate speech laws and forcing the Irish to sit there and take it are other white Irish in a tizzy to signal to other white Europeans their virtues.

[Ben]

If it's opening businesses and selling *expletive deleted*it from their culture I don't know what to tell you.

No, that's part of the melting pot.

[Ron]

The bottom line is European Caucasians, including most Christians, don't have enough survival instinct left to protect their people and heritage culture.

Mostly because they have adopted universalist presuppositions about human nature, religion and forms of government. They've abandoned truth and God, therefore becoming untethered from reality.   

Caucasian whites are already a minority in the world, and will become moreso as those groups who act in accordance with reality out breed and take over the levers of control.

[dogmush]

Caucasian whites are already a minority in the world, and will become moreso as those groups who act in accordance with reality out breed and take over the levers of control.

Caucasian whites have always been a minority in the world.

[Hawkmoon]

While we had our "enclaves" which was mostly getting together on weekends or various holidays, I certainly recall getting smacked on the back of the head as a kid if I spoke German if there was even one other person attending that didn't speak German. If it wasn't all krauts there, even if it was other foreign languages, you speak English because that's the language of the land. I certainly never saw that with Mexicans back in California over the last 20 years. Previous immigrants kept their traditions in their homes, but assimilated in public. Modern "immigrants" demand that the rest of us assimilate. When "Press 1 for Spanish" (rather than 2,3,4, or learn how to speak English) is the default, we have a problem.

Quoted for truth.

I'm old enough and have been around construction long enough to remember when a large percentage of residential framers were French-Canadians. They mostly spoke French (or Quebec French, which is not really French, according to my grandmother), but they also spoke English and had no trouble communicating on sites. Today, a huge percentage of framers, roofers, and concrete form workers are Latinos -- and they DON'T speak English. It was a real problem in the town where I used to work as an assistant building official. My role was supposed to be primarily reviewing plans, but one day the boss took me out to the site of a condo complex where he had been having constant problems for the formwork for the foundations.

The workers were all Latinos, and even the foremen claimed they didn't speak English. I had recently married my late wife, who hailed from South America and the boss knew I was learning Spanish so I could talk to her family when we visited. So the boss took me to the site, I walked around the foundation, and told the workers in Spanish what they needed to fix to pass inspection. The look on their faces was comic -- "Oh, *expletive deleted*it, we're busted. He speaks Spanish."

Unlike previous waves of immigrants, the Latinos have no intention of assimilating or being assimilated. They intend to take over. We should start printing tickets for 50-yard line seats for the Latino-Islamic war.

[dogmush]

Did the Chinese railroad workers in the mid 19tu century predominantly speak English?  It is my understanding that the majority did not, yet the railroad was finished, as was much of the agriculture and industry in the west.

The Latinos are at least Christian. Of the immigrants entering the country they have moe in common with us than many.

[Pb]

Yeah! Unlike the 19th and 20th century German, Irish, Chinese and Scandinavian immigrants who totally assimilated right away and didn't make little enclaves wherever they settled with large parts of their original culture intact!

Mass immigration of certain minority groups in the past did cause huge problems in the USA, and it was very controversial at the time.  It was, in fact, very reasonable for Americans to oppose it.  For example, mass immigration of the Irish caused crime waves everywhere they settled (and Italians, though to a much lesser extent).  The stereotype of the drunken, brawling Irish was pretty much accurate for many of them.

These immigrant groups did eventually reform their more negative elements over time... here's an interesting article about a priest named "Dagger John" who helped reform the Irish in NYC:

https://www.city-journal.org/article/how-dagger-john-saved-new-yorks-irish

One thing that many perhaps might not realize is that Democrats have pretty much always been a party supported by immigrants, and that likely these earlier waves of immigration helped grant massive control to the Democratic Party in the USA for a long time... which culminated in the socialist disaster of FDR's domestic policy.

Immigration nightmares are nothing new.

[230RN]

^"Immigration nightmares are nothing new."

And we haven't learned from that.

There's a famous poem at the Statue of Liberty in New York harbor entitled "The New Colossus" which has the famous words, "“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..."

Enough.  Maybe we should start vetting immigrants more carefully again.

[Ben]

Enough.  Maybe we should start vetting immigrants more carefully again.

Ellis Island worked pretty well. My dad almost got turned around there because of his heart murmur (they didn't want his medical condition being a burden on the taxpayers). They did pretty thorough screenings back in the day.

[MechAg94]

There's two parts to that.

First, there 100% were segregated, publically un assimilated migrant areas, they are just far enough back that no one currently living remembers them.

Five Points, the various Chinatowns, the German neighborhoods in the midwest, all of them would frequently have languages other than English as the main language well into the 20th century. The Aisan enclaves still do.  I can easily find markets and neighborhoods where signs are Korean, and if I want to buy something we're doing it through a grandkid or Google translate.

I think it's easy to look at the results of the Third wave of immigration (1880-1914) and see successful assimilation, and overlook we are almost 150 years on from the beginning.   It's also true that assimilation was not 1 way in any of the immigration waves, so concern that "base" American culture (whatever that is) will change is probably accurate. "Base" culture has shifted on each of the four major waves of immigration. How exactly that shakes out is harder to predict.

On your second point of them forcing their culture on others, or trying to stop us from doing something we want, that's an interesting take.  If forcing their culture on us is openly practicing their religion,  previous immigrants undoubtedly did that. To great cultural friction, most notably the Catholics of the second wave. If it's opening businesses and selling *expletive deleted*it from their culture I don't know what to tell you.

If you are referring to the push to downplay Thanksgiving and Christian holidays and include every random holiday on the calendar in schools and shops.....that's not immigrants pushing that.  That's the AWFLs. I might (and do) see a muslim family hang a crescent in their window for Eid, but they aren't down at the school board meeting demanding Ramadan celebrations in schools.  That's the White folks overeager to prove they aren't racist.

Same with Ireland in this thread. The folks strengthening hate speech laws and forcing the Irish to sit there and take it are other white Irish in a tizzy to signal to other white Europeans their virtues.

Yep.  It is largely the leftist whites that are trying to force Americans to change our behavior. 

[Hawkmoon]

Enough.  Maybe we should start vetting immigrants more carefully again.

I fear it's too late.

[230RN]

I fear it's too late.

^ Yes, tipping point. Enough of the voting populace is only interested in their own short-term benefits to swing any election to that end.

[dogmush]

^ Yes, tipping point. Enough of the voting populace is only interested in their own short-term benefits to swing any election to that end.

That has *expletive deleted*ck all to do with immigration though.  Again, the Liberal Whites are the issue.  And for this issue the inner city poor as well.