Kel-Tec releases Gen 3 Sub2k

[dogmush]

I know we have some fans of the foldy boi Sub2000 in here, so I thought I'd share when this popped up on my YouTube Shorts list.

Looks like a Gen 2 Sub2k with a twist ( ), so that optics can be mounted easily and retain zero.  Kind of a neat idea, and a good answer to S&W's foldy gun.  Bag guns are all the rage now, and if you're good with a PCC, Kel Tec has some history of these working.

Of course, it's Kel-Tec, so Gods know they probably made an initial run of 6 of them, and they'll be out of stock till 2025, but at least they exist somewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EBvDxXmgJg

[K Frame]

Nice.

I picked up a Sub2000 primarily for use as a car gun.

It's strange feeling from a firing position with that tubular buttstock, but man is it handy.

[WLJ]

Fixes the biggest flaw in the gun. This be fair when the S2K first came out red dots weren't really that big of a thing.
Waiting on tests to see how well it holds zero.

[Ben]

I didn't know they were that cheap. That's a handy little carbine. Sportsman's Warehouse has them in stock for $450.

[dogmush]

I didn't know they were that cheap. That's a handy little carbine. Sportsman's Warehouse has them in stock for $450.

That's the Gen 2.  Harder to put Optics on.  Put if that's your jam, PSA has them on sale for $379, plus the $100 rebate so $279 plus transfer and shipping all in.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/kel-tec-gen2-sub2000-glock-17-9mm-rifle-black.html

[WLJ]

I didn't know they were that cheap. That's a handy little carbine. Sportsman's Warehouse has them in stock for $450.

That's the Gen 2.  Harder to put Optics on.  Put if that's your jam, PSA has them on sale for $379, plus the $100 rebate so $279 plus transfer and shipping all in.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/kel-tec-gen2-sub2000-glock-17-9mm-rifle-black.html

Gen 3 $450

https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/modern-sporting-rifles/kel-tec-sub2000-gen3-9mm-luger-1615in-black-semi-automatic-modern-sporting-rifle-151-rounds/p/1865725

[dogmush]

I stand corrected.  Clicked on the wrong link on their website.

ETA:  When I click that link it says "Pre-Order ships in Mid Jan."  So Kel-Tec has to keep up with production demand.  A task they are famously just great at.

[Ben]

I stand corrected.  Clicked on the wrong link on their website.

ETA:  When I click that link it says "Pre-Order ships in Mid Jan."  So Kel-Tec has to keep up with production demand.  A task they are famously just great at.

When I click on it, I get the add to cart button, pickup [my local store] 16JAN. Do you have a Sportsman's near you, or does it ship to FFL? Maybe they're reserving in stock ones for in-store purchases.

[WLJ]

When I click on it, I get the add to cart button, pickup [my local store] 16JAN. Do you have a Sportsman's near you, or does it ship to FFL? Maybe they're reserving in stock ones for in-store purchases.

Says the same for me

[dogmush]

Yeah, I have a store here.  The ship to store button says the "Pre-order ships in Mid Jan" and if I add to cart it says "estimated pick-up Jan 16"

Not a huge deal, I'm full up on foldy rifles anyway, but it's neat that they seem to be trying to get these out in a hurry.  I bet the Gen 2's see a street price under $250 by Feb if these actually hit stores and work.  I see the Gen 3 has a threaded barrel too.

[WLJ]

After SW came out with theirs that can fold with optics I figure KT would follow.

[Ben]

I am seriously considering getting one now. I don't have any PCCs, and this seems like a good price for what it is and for an initial dip into the PCC realm. Could be a good tuck away truck carbine for me, given my ccw gun uses the same mags.

The question is, wait for reviews, or be an early adopter? 

I wish stupid Cabelas sold them - I have just about $400 in cabelas bucks right now.

[WLJ]

The question is, wait for reviews, or be an early adopter? 

I wish stupid Cabelas sold them - I have just about $400 in cabelas bucks right now.

I'm waiting to find out how well they hold zero.

Wait a little, Cabelas will probably have them before too long.

[Ben]

Wait a little, Cabelas will probably have them before too long.

They don't appear to sell any Keltec at all.

[WLJ]

They don't appear to sell any Keltec at all.

Well poopy poop

[lee n. field]

I know we have some fans of the foldy boi Sub2000 in here, so I thought I'd share when this popped up on my YouTube Shorts list.

Looks like a Gen 2 Sub2k with a twist ( ), so that optics can be mounted easily and retain zero.  Kind of a neat idea, and a good answer to S&W's foldy gun.  Bag guns are all the rage now, and if you're good with a PCC, Kel Tec has some history of these working.

Of course, it's Kel-Tec, so Gods know they probably made an initial run of 6 of them, and they'll be out of stock till 2025, but at least they exist somewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EBvDxXmgJg

saw that.  Wonder if there's going to be a way to upgrade the Gen 2 guns.  Wasn't there an aftermarket front end for the Gen 1 that did the same thing?  (Red Lion.  https://www.redlionprecision.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=R11 )

That's one of them scary guns I'm not supposed to have now, anyways.  OIoops.

[Angel Eyes]

I've never owned a Sub2K, but didn't the earlier versions come with iron sights?  The Gen 3 appears to not have them.

[WLJ]

I've never owned a Sub2K, but didn't the earlier versions come with iron sights?  The Gen 3 appears to not have them.

Yes and yes.
My guess is the idea is that if you want iron sights on the gen 3 you can mount a set of the many 1913 rail mount sight sets available

[Bogie]

A bunch of youts around here have been carrying some sizable messenger bags..

[Ben]

Yes and yes.
My guess is the idea is that if you want iron sights on the gen 3 you can mount a set of the many 1913 rail mount sight sets available

Without having done a lot of research, it seems the new twisty thing was designed primarily to allow optic mounting, so they're doing what many AR makers are, selling it bare and letting the user do what they want.

[WLJ]

My CMR-30 came with a set of Magpul flip up sights and the Kel-tec web pages mentions them.
Don't see any mention of the same on the Gen 3 S2K page.

I was going to ask if they're still going to produce the Gen 2 (with sights) but I don't even see the Gen 2 listed on their website anymore so I guess that answers that although they still list the CQB which is basically a gen 2 at heart. Maybe they haven't got the Gen 3 version of the CQB going yet.

[K Frame]

I thought about trying to mount some sort of optic sight on my Sub2K, but after really thinking about it I figured... why?

The iron sights are more than enough for a 9mm carbine. They're actually very quick to acquire.

[HeroHog]

Wish I kept either my G1 (Glock mag) or G2 (S&W mag) KTS2K... 

[K Frame]

Bud's currently has the Sub2K 9mm for $299.99 with free shipping.


Edit in...

It's $399.99... but Kel-Tec has a $100 rebate.

Bit misleading there, Bud's.

[MechAg94]

I thought about trying to mount some sort of optic sight on my Sub2K, but after really thinking about it I figured... why?

The iron sights are more than enough for a 9mm carbine. They're actually very quick to acquire.

That was always my thinking.  For a sort of backup PCC, the iron sights do what is needed.  Mounting a light would be my first option. 

I guess it depends on what you want to use it for.  AR-15's are selling pretty cheap these days and there are many other 9mm carbines for more money.