More MS update follies

[lee n. field]

24H2 will have bitlocker turned on by default even in the home ver
This is both good bad, good in that it will make people's PC more secure by default, bad in that if someone loses or forgets their key they're up the creek if they ever need to recover their data. 

Microsoft To Force BitLocker Encryption on Windows 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyG3m_WxyLc

Had one this week.  Win11 update went wonky, never fully booting.  Could not do anything useful in recovery console until I got into her MS account for the bitlocker key.  Fortunately I had left the ms account info on the sales order from when I originally set the laptop up last year some time.  I was able to do a non-destructive Windows reset.

A lot of people are going to be just SOL when something like that happens.

[WLJ]

Just noticed a W11 install from a year ago is now giving me a "MS Account Problem" warning and is telling me to sign in to my account, I'm not, when I boot it since the last update

[WLJ]

MS has started rolling out 24H2 into the release preview channel

[WLJ]

Just noticed a W11 install from a year ago is now giving me a "MS Account Problem" warning and is telling me to sign in to my account, I'm not, when I boot it since the last update

Now all my PCs since the last round of updates are all now telling me there's a problem with my MS account and I should log in. I have a MS account but I only log into it rarely as I don't normally need anything it offers beyond transferring keys to a new motherboard or similar. Appears MS is trying to goat people to stay logged in at all times now.

[MechAg94]

Now all my PCs since the last round of updates are all now telling me there's a problem with my MS account and I should log in. I have a MS account but I only log into it rarely as I don't normally need anything it offers beyond transferring keys to a new motherboard or similar. Appears MS is trying to goat people to stay logged in at all times now.

I think I set up an MS account when I set up my current computer.  I see that "error" also and just ignore it.

[Hawkmoon]

Now all my PCs since the last round of updates are all now telling me there's a problem with my MS account and I should log in. I have a MS account but I only log into it rarely as I don't normally need anything it offers beyond transferring keys to a new motherboard or similar. Appears MS is trying to goat people to stay logged in at all times now.

I've been getting warnings that "Your work settings are out of date."

I didn't know I had any work settings.

I think what's happening is that I continue to reject the imposition of the new Outlook in place of Windows Mail and Windows Calendar, and Mother Microsoft doesn't like it when we disobey her mandates.

[WLJ]

I've been getting warnings that "Your work settings are out of date."

I didn't know I had any work settings.

I think what's happening is that I continue to reject the imposition of the new Outlook in place of Windows Mail and Windows Calendar, and Mother Microsoft doesn't like it when we disobey her mandates.

Hmm, now that you mentioned it around the time I started getting notices about the new Outlook and that I need to try it I noticed a problem copying and pasting stuff out of Thunderbird. Not sure if it's connected or just a random Thunderbird problem I just now noticed

[Cliffh]

After the last update on this Win10 machine I got a full screen warning that my computer didn't meet the spec's for Win11.  Didn't bother to read the entire thing, just closed it and went on.

[Hawkmoon]

Hmm, now that you mentioned it around the time I started getting notices about the new Outlook and that I need to try it I noticed a problem copying and pasting stuff out of Thunderbird. Not sure if it's connected or just a random Thunderbird problem I just now noticed

Microsoft is pushing the new Outlook VERY hard. No matter how many times I reject it, they keep switching me over to it without my permission, so then I have to manually change back.

I have MS Office Professional -- 2016 on one computer, 2019 on another, and 2021 on a third. And I have MS Office Home and Business on my Surface tablet. All of those include the real Outlook -- with no ads interspersed with new e-mail messages. I have two e-mail accounts set up in [the real] Outlook. I have no problem with that. But I use the Windows Calendar for the simple reason that I can set a desktop icon for it and, when I need it, it opens directly into a calendar view. No need to open Outlook and then jump from mail to calendar, and then back. It works for me, and I have no desire to change. So I wish Microsoft would take a hint and just leave me alone.

[WLJ]

MS: We're going to keep screwing with you until you switch to Linux

[JTHunter]

MS: We're going to keep screwing with you until you switch to Linux.

Depending on how long this Windows 7 system with Office 2000 lasts, I'm watching what happens with Linux as my next desktop will likely have some version of that as well as "Open Office" or whatever free office program is out there.  Will also try to put GIMP on it to replace the PS 6 I'm using now.

[WLJ]

Depending on how long this Windows 7 system with Office 2000 lasts, I'm watching what happens with Linux as my next desktop will likely have some version of that as well as "Open Office" or whatever free office program is out there.  Will also try to put GIMP on it to replace the PS 6 I'm using now.

Most flavors of Linux I've messed with come with LibreOffice already installed

[Hawkmoon]

Most flavors of Linux I've messed with come with LibreOffice already installed

Almost all of them, I think.

[JTHunter]

Most flavors of Linux I've messed with come with LibreOffice already installed.

Good to know. Thanks.  I just couldn't remember the name of the program.

[WLJ]

MS reopening the Beta channel for feature updates for W10 after MS said there wasn't going to be anymore feature updates for W10 and the fact W10 still has 68% market share is fueling some speculation MS may back off the W10 end of support date.

Note: Speculation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ggy4fv2TWJc

[Ben]

I'm still on 10 with no reason to move, so extended security updates would be ok by me.

On the tangent, MS is still better than some other companies on this. My Samsung S9 hasn't received an OS/security update in like two years. The S9 is around six years old, so a four year OS support cycle is pretty cheapass.

[K Frame]

I'm still running windows 7 on my desktop.

I'm considering updating to 10, but that's apparently as high as I can go on my CPU core.

Seriously thinking that when that happens I may replace the desktop and my laptop with a newer laptop with a docking station so that it will serve both purposes.

[WLJ]

I'm still on 10 with no reason to move, so extended security updates would be ok by me.

On the tangent, MS is still better than some other companies on this. My Samsung S9 hasn't received an OS/security update in like two years. The S9 is around six years old, so a four year OS support cycle is pretty cheapass.

My biggest issue with MS updates is that they far too often release updates that break something in the OS and then scramble to release another update to fix the previous update.

[WLJ]

I'm still running windows 7 on my desktop.

I'm considering updating to 10, but that's apparently as high as I can go on my CPU core.

Download Rufus from the MS store and you can install 11 on just about anything from a USB stick. You will also need to download a W11 ISO from MS.
Yes MS actually provides you the tool to bypass W11's HW requirements. Go figure. I'm running W11 on several old PCs, a couple around 16 years old and it runs fine.

Although I just remembered MS closed the 7 --> 10/11 free license deal. It still works on old machines that were updated before the cutoff though so reinstalling is no problem.

[WLJ]

I personally would not be running 7 for security reasons right now. Shocked there are still people running XP. Within minutes of connecting a XP machine to the internet you can detect numerous hacking attempts with the right monitoring software. Very easy to install key loggers and turn an XP machine into a zombie PC often with the user being completely unaware.

[lee n. field]

Win 10 Enterprise has a later EOL than regular pro. I do not know if the a built in win10 pro license is enough to activate enterprise, but I suspect not.

[Ben]

Seriously thinking that when that happens I may replace the desktop and my laptop with a newer laptop with a docking station so that it will serve both purposes.

This is the way. I went to a docking station at work around 2010 and liked it so much I switched to it at home as well. I have been running one ever since.

[zxcvbob]

Win 10 Enterprise has a later EOL than regular pro. I do not know if the a built in win10 pro license is enough to activate enterprise, but I suspect not.

It is not.  I don't remember the details, but I tried it a couple of years ago. Enterprise and Pro have different keys.

[WLJ]

Oh gee, MS automatically starts uploading your files to their cloud on new installs of both 10 & 11.
Yes one drive was turned on by default before but to automatically start uploading your files without asking is taking that to a whole new level.
In comments someone states you have to be careful about deleting you files off the one drive cloud because it will also delete them on your computer by default unless that feature is turned off.  Also in comments people say they started this with 10. I can't confirmed any of this as I always turn one drive off.

New Windows 11 Installations are Turning on OneDrive Backup Automatically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uirNteBd5qc

[WLJ]

Now all my PCs since the last round of updates are all now telling me there's a problem with my MS account and I should log in. I have a MS account but I only log into it rarely as I don't normally need anything it offers beyond transferring keys to a new motherboard or similar. Appears MS is trying to goat people to stay logged in at all times now.

After the latest rounds of update it stopped.