More MS update follies

[WLJ]

Oh gee, MS automatically starts uploading your files to their cloud on new installs of both 10 & 11.
Yes one drive was turned on by default before but to automatically start uploading your files without asking is taking that to a whole new level.
In comments someone states you have to be careful about deleting you files off the one drive cloud because it will also delete them on your computer by default unless that feature is turned off.  Also in comments people say they started this with 10. I can't confirmed any of this as I always turn one drive off.

New Windows 11 Installations are Turning on OneDrive Backup Automatically
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uirNteBd5qc

Check when you save anything in anything and see if whatever program you're in is trying to save to onedrive regardless of what your save settings are in that program. Seems MS is overriding save settings to onedrive even when onedrive is turned off. In my case they're not actually going there but the fact it overrides settings and tries anyway is annoying. If I was actually logged in a MS account I would be pissed it would be doing it without asking and I can't find a way to turn it's attempts off

[Brad Johnson]

Check when you save anything in anything and see if whatever program you're in is trying to save to onedrive regardless of what your save settings are in that program. Seems MS is overriding save settings to onedrive even when onedrive is turned off. In my case they're not actually going there but the fact it overrides settings and tries anyway is annoying. If I was actually logged in a MS account I would be pissed it would be doing it without asking and I can't find a way to turn it's attempts off

I dealt with that on a recent laptop drive upgrade. I didn't realize OneDrive was enabled by default and started loading data onto the drive. It was only after I loaded half a gig of data that I realized it was also syncing to OneDrive. I went ahead and let it finish lest it anger the Windows Gods and hose my fresh install, but disabled it immediately once the sync finished.

Brad

[WLJ]

It tries even when you got Onedrive disabled which I do and saves always default to Onedrive no matter what the program I'm saving in is set to. The saves are going to downloads & docs as they should but the fact W11 still tries to upload to OD without asking and you can't turn that off has got me one step away from installing Linux and W11 in a dual boot config reserving W11 for only when I absolutely have to run something in windows.

[zxcvbob]

I dealt with that on a recent laptop drive upgrade. I didn't realize OneDrive was enabled by default and started loading data onto the drive. It was only after I loaded half a gig of data that I realized it was also syncing to OneDrive. I went ahead and let it finish lest it anger the Windows Gods and hose my fresh install, but disabled it immediately once the sync finished.

Brad

On some configurations, Bitlocker is automatically enabled even tho' they never send you the key.  (it's supposedly available in your Microsoft account)

[WLJ]

In other update news that not MS related Intel has started releasing a microcode patch to the fix the over voltage issues that have been plaguing 13 and 14 gen Intel CPUs.
Bad news if you CPU has already started to show instability as your CPU is already fired.
This could turn into a HUGE recall for Intel

 Intel's new Microcode patch is HERE! Impact Testing Performance...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bEv74JrHQo

In case you're not aware of what going with Intel and it's not good.
In short basically the CPUs are asking for more voltage then they can take and over time it fries them.

Intels in serious trouble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrWQLFWbQY8

[WLJ]

Update on the KB5034441 fiasco
According to this guy MS threw in the towel in trying to come up with an auto fix and people will have to manually change their partitions sizes. SMDH.

Microsoft Confirms it will NOT Fix KB5034441 Error 0x80070643 on Windows 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrSD5Bbm6Bk

Update

Microsoft FINALLY Pulls Broken Windows 10 KB5034441 And Replaces it With KB5042320!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls7SWApXMx0

Finally

[WLJ]

And another update pulled
This time it's KB5043145 for 11

Reports of BSOD and USB and Bluetooth devices including keyboards and mice being disabled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UInnInx-vs

[WLJ]

W11 24H2 has dropped but they've doing a staged release so you may or may not be seeing it in the update page yet.

[lee n. field]

W11 24H2 has dropped but they've doing a staged release so you may or may not be seeing it in the update page yet.

Downloaded, used rufus to make a stick.  Checked all the boxes in rufus for the various workarounds.  Started an in place upgrade on a scratch laptop.  "Processor not supported". 

So, it's tighter than it was.  Which we knew.

[WLJ]

Downloaded, used rufus to make a stick.  Checked all the boxes in rufus for the various workarounds.  Started an in place upgrade on a scratch laptop.  "Processor not supported". 

So, it's tighter than it was.  Which we knew.

Makes me wonder what will happen when an old PC that already has 11 installed is updated. Hmmm testing time.
Rufus may be updated to deal with it, time will tell.

edit: Neither of the old PCs are showing 24H2 yet. Will have to try again later.

[WLJ]

Loaded a Rufus stick with 24H2 and tried starting it in an old 2007(?)Q6600 Dell and it would sit with W11 symbol up for a while and then reboot. No message, nothing.
Put one in with 23H2 and it started the install just fine.

Think they did something that is messing with Rufus. Maybe a Rufus update will fix that IDK.

[WLJ]

Thankfully I keep ISOs of older versions of OSs.
Still don't know what will happened when 24H2 comes up as an update on my older PCs as I haven't seen it come up yet on them or even on my newer PCs.

[WLJ]

Word on the net is that unless your CPU supports SSE4.2 no 24H2 update/install for you as your PC won't be able to boot period and MS is blocking it on those PCs that don't.
So it's either install/run 23H2 for the time being or go to Linux,

So for older PCs running W10 you choices in a year will be
Install 23H2 if you want 11
Hope someone comes up with a workaround in that time.
Take a chance running it without new security updates
Pick a flavor of Linux to install on it.
Toss it into a landfill and buy a new PC. Probably what they want most people to do because MS makes most of it's money on OS licenses to OEMs

[WLJ]

End of support for 23H2 is Nov 2025

[Hawkmoon]

Loaded a Rufus stick with 24H2 and tried starting it in an old 2007(?)Q6600 Dell and it would sit with W11 symbol up for a while and then reboot. No message, nothing.
Put one in with 23H2 and it started the install just fine.

Think they did something that is messing with Rufus. Maybe a Rufus update will fix that IDK.

Nothing to do with Rufus. Microsoft has just plugged a hole. The officially supported CPUs (and some of the newer unsupported ones) have some instruction set coded into them. (You can find articles that identify what this is.) Release 24H2 looks for this instruction and, if it's not there, the system won't boot.

There are hints that Rufus may be able to patch this, but I wouldn't count on it. Even if they dom, Microsoft is obviously now aware that people are doing work-arounds, and MS will find a new way to sabotage this.

[WLJ]

Nothing to do with Rufus. Microsoft has just plugged a hole. The officially supported CPUs (and some of the newer unsupported ones) have some instruction set coded into them. (You can find articles that identify what this is.) Release 24H2 looks for this instruction and, if it's not there, the system won't boot.

Yep, see reply 87

[Hawkmoon]

The downside to just installing 23H2 and not allowing updates is that end of support for 23H2 is November of 2025 -- just a month after end of support for Windows 10.

Here's the skinny on the 24H2 problem: https://www.pcmag.com/news/windows-11s-24h2-update-wont-boot-on-very-old-pcs

[WLJ]

The downside to just installing 23H2 and not allowing updates is that end of support for 23H2 is November of 2025 -- just a month after end of support for Windows 10.

Here's the skinny on the 24H2 problem: https://www.pcmag.com/news/windows-11s-24h2-update-wont-boot-on-very-old-pcs

Yep as I stated above just without the PCMag link

Just started a fresh install of 24H2 install on my old laptop with a 6200U and it's taking it. Actually according to MS it shouldn't so Rufus is still able to bypass the basic HW checks just like it did with 23H2 and earlier but not the SSE4.2 check in pre SSE4.2 older CPUs. So the key to this appears to be SSE4.2. Rufus is still able to bypass the base HW checks but not the new SSE4.2 check.

[WLJ]

24H2 up and running on the laptop despite MS saying a 6200U is a no go
So I guess google your CPU to see if it supports SSE4.2, if it does it appears Rufus is able to install 24H2.
Now if something else is going on IDK yet. Million dollar question is will MS block this in the future?

According to google the first AMD CPUs that supported SSE4.2 were introduced in 2011, Intel 2008.

[lee n. field]

I did see there's a workaround now, for updates to existing Win11 systems.  A script that hacks the existing registry.

[WLJ]

Got into a fistfight with it to install the laptop's audio drivers. Got it working now.

[WLJ]

Liking it so far, looks and feel more refined. This is what W11 should have been on day 1.
BUT
Still no &^%$#! way to resize the taskbar

[Hawkmoon]

Still no &^%$#! way to resize the taskbar

Open Shell?

[WLJ]

Open Shell?

No way in W11 without a 3rd party add in and I'm using Start11 which enables me to that among other things.
Just still puzzled why they removed the option to do so in W11 and refuse to put it back.

Yes it's trivial but on a 32" monitor the taskbar is huge and it bugs me.

[WLJ]

Went ahead and did a clean install of 24H2 on my main desktop and so far so good. I like to do a clean install every once in awhile anyway.
I was worried Start11 would have issues with it but it appears to be working fine.