Author Topic: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule  (Read 22326 times)

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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #250 on: August 31, 2023, 10:54:08 AM »
What's the expected turn around of which-ever form for a suppressor using an outfit like Silencer Shop?

I'm still considering picking one up for my Ruger American Rimfire.

My 8 month approval was using Silencer Shop.  Once you are set up with them, the fingerprints, photos, and paperwork are all done once and you don't do much of anything after that.  Just set up a username on eForms to sign off on the forms electronically.  Makes it real easy.  I got an email from eForms with the tax stamp paperwork once it was approved.

As others said, it will take time, but don't wait to get the approval started.  22 LR suppressors are great fun.  With a bolt action, you just hear the firing pin hit and the impact on the target.  For me, standard velocity ammo generally stays subsonic. 
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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #251 on: September 05, 2023, 03:31:42 PM »
Still waiting on one SBR approval despite both being filed the same evening.  I put an SL-K on the one that was approved (thanks dogmush).
Second one just came through approved.  Almost a two week difference between two registrations the same evening.  Weird.

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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #252 on: September 27, 2023, 09:14:45 PM »
These breaking news videos drive me a little nuts, but apparently COB this Friday is going to be a critical date on whether a nationwide injunction will be ordered or not and also if the FPC, et. al. injunction will continue or not if no nationwide is ordered.

https://youtu.be/WVieuQrcs3s
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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #253 on: October 03, 2023, 05:10:34 PM »
So the first FPC injunction (60 days) ended on Saturday. As of today, the 5th Circuit has reinstated the injunction, just for FPC and Maxim, but in perpetuity. It's expected that a second case will do the same for GOA members.

Apparently the judge did not make it nationwide because there is a separate case specifically addressing a nationwide injunction, and he didn't want to expand the scope of this one, giving the DOJ ammo against us.

https://youtu.be/L4QFgS6zJL4

It was also interesting that the judge defended braces as "safety devices".

This video suggests that SBRs as NFA items could disappear, and you'll buy one at the gun store just like any other rifle:

https://youtu.be/7a5ec1grghk
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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #254 on: April 02, 2024, 02:58:19 PM »
I haven't heard anything on this for a while, but apparently SB Tactical is expecting a big loss for the ATF and they have just dropped a new brace - their SBA5. I'm still not altogether sure that it's not an April Fools thing. :laugh:

https://youtu.be/0Km9bZQY0rk
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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #255 on: April 02, 2024, 03:15:44 PM »
I haven't heard anything on this for a while, but apparently SB Tactical is expecting a big loss for the ATF and they have just dropped a new brace - their SBA5. I'm still not altogether sure that it's not an April Fools thing. :laugh:

https://youtu.be/0Km9bZQY0rk
I notice that the guy in the link has put the brace on a full sized rifle, not a pistol with a short barrel. So the rifle - which looks like it comfortably remains over the SBR threshold for OAL - stays a rifle.
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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #256 on: April 02, 2024, 03:40:59 PM »
I notice that the guy in the link has put the brace on a full sized rifle, not a pistol with a short barrel. So the rifle - which looks like it comfortably remains over the SBR threshold for OAL - stays a rifle.

That's a Foxtrot Mike Gen 2 12.3" pistol.  Even if that KeyMo brake is pinned and welded it ain't 16".

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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #257 on: April 02, 2024, 03:43:59 PM »
Yeah, looked a bit short for a 16" to me.
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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #258 on: April 02, 2024, 04:23:21 PM »
In truth, I think it's great that the pistol "brace" market has so normalized SBR length barrels on ARs that in media and pics a lot of folks think that 12.5"-14.5" is the "normal" length for an AR Rifle.

Common Use indeed.

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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #259 on: April 03, 2024, 09:21:52 AM »
https://www.newsweek.com/democrat-judge-exempts-nra-members-new-gun-rule-1886261

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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #260 on: April 03, 2024, 09:26:04 AM »
https://www.newsweek.com/democrat-judge-exempts-nra-members-new-gun-rule-1886261

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Join the Firearms Policy Coalition instead. You will be retroactively protected by a much better organization (disgruntled NRA Endowment Member here).
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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #261 on: April 03, 2024, 10:30:01 AM »
Join the Firearms Policy Coalition instead. You will be retroactively protected by a much better organization (disgruntled NRA Endowment Member here).

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I joined FPC and still give money to GOA on occasion. My Lifetime NRA (I never fell for the upgrade) just kind of sits there. Maybe with Wayne gone things will get better as far as optics but I will probably make the celestial transfer before that happens.

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Re: The ATF Pistol Brace Rule
« Reply #262 on: April 03, 2024, 10:35:57 AM »
Maybe with Wayne gone things will get better as far as optics but I will probably make the celestial transfer before that happens.
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Given that the board gave Wayne a multi-million dollar "consulting" gig like five minutes after he left, I do not have high hopes. Seems like the entire board and most of upper management need to take a hike, but for the board at least, they keep getting voted back in.
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