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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2024, 02:24:13 PM »
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2024, 02:46:39 PM »
The UK government is now blocking non-UK IP addresses from their snitch site.

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/08/09/uk-government-blocking-non-uk-ips-from-accessing-police-website-n2399412
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2024, 03:57:56 PM »
The UK government is now blocking non-UK IP addresses from their snitch site.

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/08/09/uk-government-blocking-non-uk-ips-from-accessing-police-website-n2399412
Reminds me of the movie V for Vendetta.  The UK had isolated themselves in that movie.  The politics seem to be the opposite, but are largely the same. 
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2024, 04:07:45 PM »
I can get to Police.uk, although I did have to click through a Cloudlflare "prove you are human" checkbox.

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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2024, 06:26:19 PM »

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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2024, 08:48:05 PM »
JHC

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London's Metropolitan Police chief warned that officials will not only be cracking down on British citizens for commentary on the riots in the U.K., but on American citizens as well.

UK police commissioner threatens to extradite, jail US citizens over online posts: 'We'll come after you'https://www.foxnews.com/media/uk-police-commissioner-threatens-extradite-jail-us-citizens-over-social-media-posts-we-come-afte
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2024, 11:22:52 PM »
JHC

UK police commissioner threatens to extradite, jail US citizens over online posts: 'We'll come after you'https://www.foxnews.com/media/uk-police-commissioner-threatens-extradite-jail-us-citizens-over-social-media-posts-we-come-afte
A couple of decades ago our Canadian friends to the north tried to silence some U.S. radio stations from talking about some criminal case up there - a Canadian court had issued an "all encompassing" gag order.

Didn't work. U.S. radio stations, if anything, spoke MORE about what was going on. The Canucks were reduced to confiscating U.S. newspapers that travelers were carrying across the border lest they include some "forbidden" knowledge, and warning Canadians it was "illegal" for them to listen to U.S. news sources when they were discussing the case in question.
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2024, 07:45:49 AM »
A couple of decades ago our Canadian friends to the north tried to silence some U.S. radio stations from talking about some criminal case up there - a Canadian court had issued an "all encompassing" gag order.

Didn't work. U.S. radio stations, if anything, spoke MORE about what was going on. The Canucks were reduced to confiscating U.S. newspapers that travelers were carrying across the border lest they include some "forbidden" knowledge, and warning Canadians it was "illegal" for them to listen to U.S. news sources when they were discussing the case in question.

I remember that... I THINK it had to do with a woman and her boyfriend or husband. They drugged the woman's young teen (about 15, I think), raped her, and then either murdered her or the drugging caused her to die.

Yes. Karla Hololak and Paul Bernardo.

Here's a New York Times article about the interplay between Canadian court rulings and US publishing:

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/12/01/nyregion/canadian-ban-on-murder-case-stirs-battle-with-us-journalists.html

I'm not finding much of anything about diplomatic interactions over the bans, though.

And it's pretty funny that the British think that they can get someone extradited for something like that.
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2024, 07:54:31 AM »
I had no problem getting to the UK's thought police site.

In fact, I was deep into reporting a thought crime against a member of the Metropolitan police when I got bored.
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2024, 08:07:48 AM »
JHC

UK police commissioner threatens to extradite, jail US citizens over online posts: 'We'll come after you'https://www.foxnews.com/media/uk-police-commissioner-threatens-extradite-jail-us-citizens-over-social-media-posts-we-come-afte

I wish a mothafucka would. Where's that Channing Tatum Gambit meme?

I had no problem getting to the UK's thought police site.

In fact, I was deep into reporting a thought crime against a member of the Metropolitan police when I got bored.

They had blocked foreign IPs for a day or two midweek.  It appears they have discovered that VPNs exist, and have moved on.

I checked the site mid week, and had to VPN into the UK to c9nnect.  Even Ireland was blocked.

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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #60 on: August 10, 2024, 08:22:28 AM »
I wish a mothafucka would. Where's that Channing Tatum Gambit meme?

Threats like he made kinda makes a guy who hates social media want to create social media accounts to login to the cop site and post a lot of outrageous racist stuff about a certain group of UK residents just to be put on the extradition list. Welcome to Idaho, comrade.

Which, when someone puts a chip on their shoulder daring somebody to knock it off, a bunch of somebodies are going to come out of the woodwork to do it. Little fella would have been better off keeping his mouth shut. All he did was throw gasoline on the fire.
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #61 on: August 10, 2024, 09:58:31 AM »
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #62 on: August 10, 2024, 12:03:36 PM »
. . . And it's pretty funny that the British think that they can get someone extradited for something like that.
Indeed. Extradition when it's not an actual crime like narco trafficking, but something that bears so directly on an American's constitutional rights? Uh uh.

Remember Amanda Knox? In again, out again, guilty, not guilty, retried, re-retried on murder charges . . . I couldn't keep track of what the heck the Italian courts were doing to this woman. After a couple of years of this she was released again and got the hell out of Italy post haste. When the Italian courts suggested yet another trial and raised the possibility of extradition, the USA said nope, no way, full stop. As an American, she has protection against double jeopardy, no matter what other countries think.

She eventually DID go back to Italy for some sort of speaking arrangement - I wonder what kind of assurances Italy gave that made her willing to return. (They weren't enough, since though actually innocent of murder, she's still facing slander charges.)
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #63 on: August 10, 2024, 12:18:58 PM »
I remember that whole mess with Knox.

Apparently Italy's legal system is still largely unchanged from what the Fascists (REAL fascists) enacted in the 1920s and it's not exactly defendant's rights favorable.

She was eventually completely exonerated by the Italian courts for the murder, but her guilty verdict was upheld on a slander charge or some such against another potential suspect. (the above from Wikipedia)

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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #64 on: August 10, 2024, 12:23:41 PM »
I remember that whole mess with Knox.

Apparently Italy's legal system is still largely unchanged from what the Fascists (REAL fascists) enacted in the 1920s and it's not exactly defendant's rights favorable.

She was eventually completely exonerated by the Italian courts for the murder, but her guilty verdict was upheld on a slander charge or some such against another potential suspect. (the above from Wikipedia)



It took I think 15 years before Frank Williams and Patrick Head were finally fully cleared in the death of Ayrton Senna at Imola in 1994.  They were charged with manslaughter over allegations the steering wheel shaft was badly welded causing it to snap resulting in the fatal crash at the Tamborello corner.
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #65 on: August 10, 2024, 04:08:12 PM »
Bystanders to riots will now be arrested and imprisoned with no bail. Taking lessons from our 06JAN, I see.

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/08/10/uk-will-lock-up-even-people-who-watch-riots-n2399452
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #66 on: August 10, 2024, 07:26:15 PM »
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #68 on: August 11, 2024, 08:45:09 PM »
Perhaps it's time for US citizens to start sending their spare Armalite rifles to the UK again. It worked last time.

One of the guys I shoot USPSA with is from Boston, and I bet he knows a guy.

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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #69 on: August 11, 2024, 08:53:17 PM »
What happens when the caring anglophiles and francophiles are fully in power without having to worry about an election.
 

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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2024, 01:41:25 PM »

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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #71 on: August 24, 2024, 07:19:53 AM »
“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
― William F. Buckley

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #72 on: August 24, 2024, 07:47:50 AM »
Perhaps it's time for US citizens to start sending their spare Armalite rifles to the UK again. It worked last time.

One of the guys I shoot USPSA with is from Boston, and I bet he knows a guy.

REF: https://youtu.be/fZBjTU088qQ?si=rYCIr1FIeDtKI9cM

*expletive deleted*ck them. Unlike Hitler, this is a situation they brought on themselves.
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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #73 on: August 24, 2024, 08:19:41 AM »
*expletive deleted*ck them. Unlike Hitler, this is a situation they brought on themselves.
Given his reference to Armalites, I think he was referring to the Irish-American contribution to The Troubles more than American Committee for Defense of British Homes.

Or maybe a clever combination of the two efforts.

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Re: Europe may be sick of immigrants
« Reply #74 on: August 24, 2024, 08:37:46 AM »
Given his reference to Armalites, I think he was referring to the Irish-American contribution to The Troubles more than American Committee for Defense of British Homes.

Or maybe a clever combination of the two efforts.

Nope, just the first one.  Hence my friend in Bostin that knows a guy.
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*expletive deleted*ck them. Unlike Hitler, this is a situation they brought on themselves.

It's not about whether they deserve help.  Our neighbors need help, and we have the ability to help them?  Isn't charity a good quality?  =D ;)