Author Topic: Gun shots at Trump rally (Read 26466 times)

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #550 on:** July 21, 2024, 01:26:46 PM »

Quote from: WLJ on July 21, 2024, 12:44:06 PM

Also got those saying if it was an AR an ear shot would have blown Trump head clean off because, you know, AR's fire tactical nukes or something. Yeah

Michael Steele said if he'd been struck by a "high caliber bullet"

his whole ear would have been destroyed.

Bogie · « **Reply #551 on:** July 21, 2024, 07:53:13 PM »

Just how is it I could fire projectiles with better ballistics at a paper target, and it not be absolutely destroyed?

230RN · « **Reply #552 on:** July 22, 2024, 03:51:24 AM »

All I can say is we need a President with his good luck!

Terry, 230RN

WLJ · « **Reply #553 on:** July 22, 2024, 09:21:48 AM »

First time I've seen this photo

Looks the rifle went flying a good distance. Jerk reaction from him or was it hit?
Suppose that's the backpack to the right

https://www.the-sun.com/news/11921431/cop-confronted-shooter-thomas-crooks-donald-trump-rally/

WLJ · « **Reply #554 on:** July 22, 2024, 09:23:25 AM »

cordex · « **Reply #555 on:** July 22, 2024, 09:25:31 AM »

Quote from: WLJ on July 22, 2024, 09:21:48 AM

Looks the rifle went flying a good distance. Jerk reaction from him or was it hit?

Also there was a significant delay from his shots to the one that took him out. Lots could have happened to separate him from the rifle in those seconds.

Brad Johnson · « **Reply #556 on:** July 22, 2024, 09:26:58 AM »

Quote from: WLJ on July 22, 2024, 09:21:48 AM

First time I've seen this photo

Looks the rifle went flying a good distance. Jerk reaction from him or was it hit?

My guess is officers moved it aside as they cuffed the suspect and secured the area. Same as kicking a handgun away from a downed threat just in case there's enough life left to lift it and pull the trigger.

Brad

WLJ · « **Reply #557 on:** July 22, 2024, 09:31:51 AM »

Quote from: Brad Johnson on July 22, 2024, 09:26:58 AM

My guess is officers moved it aside as they cuffed the suspect and secured the area. Same as kicking a handgun away from a downed threat just in case there's enough life left to lift it and pull the trigger.

Brad

Maybe but no one else is there, would seem odd to me if they said "he's dead Jim" and left. Unless someone is behind the tree.

WLJ · « **Reply #558 on:** July 22, 2024, 09:45:49 AM »

Another angle
There's no one there. Just seems odd to me they would have just left him there alone like that but I suppose they could have. Have no clue how soon after the shooting these photos were taken so they may have kicked it away.

dogmush · « **Reply #559 on:** July 22, 2024, 09:49:20 AM »

I guess I'll ask the obvious question:

Who had a drone up to take those pictures before even the Tac team got up there to secure the body? Or did they in fact just be like "He's DRT, I guess we can leave this super sloped crime scene unsecured."

WLJ · « **Reply #560 on:** July 22, 2024, 09:57:26 AM »

Here's a news report with the drone footage. Looks like it was shot well after the shooting judging from lack of rally goers in the shot.
So yeah, it does appear they walked off and left him. Seems odd in my book but hey I wasn't there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=6tReC8aNS0A

WLJ · « **Reply #561 on:** July 22, 2024, 11:17:52 AM »

I will note that places him much further in on the roof than any diagram I've seen which have all placed him on the roof edge to the right

dogmush · « **Reply #562 on:** July 22, 2024, 11:21:12 AM »

Slid down the steep slope maybe?

WLJ · « **Reply #563 on:** July 22, 2024, 11:21:41 AM »

Quote from: dogmush on July 22, 2024, 11:21:12 AM

Slid down the steep slope maybe?

To the right. Doubt he slide sideways over the bumps.

note where they all place him and compare that to the photo of where his body was.
Just a, should be, minor detail I noticed

cordex · « **Reply #564 on:** July 22, 2024, 11:28:04 AM »

Quote from: WLJ on July 22, 2024, 11:17:52 AM

I will note that places him much further in on the roof than any diagram I've seen which have all placed him on the roof edge to the right

That also illustrates why the ball-cap countersnipers on the more northern roof didn't take the shot. That tree was almost certainly masking him. The team on the roof to the south would have had a less obstructed shot.

WLJ · « **Reply #565 on:** July 22, 2024, 11:28:41 AM »

Quote from: cordex on July 22, 2024, 11:28:04 AM

That also illustrates why the ball-cap countersnipers on the more northern roof didn't take the shot. That tree was almost certainly masking him. The team on the roof to the south would have had a less obstructed shot.

Now that you mention it

Brad Johnson · « **Reply #566 on:** July 22, 2024, 11:34:17 AM »

The fact that they didn't have every line-of-sight rooftop withing 300 yards covered by either overwatch or dedicated foot patrol, especially in an area so open and covered with single-story roofs, is the Epic Fail of all Epic Fails.

Brad

WLJ · « **Reply #567 on:** July 22, 2024, 01:00:13 PM »

The hearings are today and Cheatle was up and....

Quote

SAVAGE REP. MACE: “Would you like to use my five minutes to draft your resignation letter?" pic.twitter.com/4DZdbY5fGh
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) July 22, 2024

https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/07/22/nancy-mace-ends-cheatle-watch-n2398693

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #568 on:** July 22, 2024, 02:21:45 PM »

Quote from: WLJ on July 22, 2024, 01:00:13 PM

The hearings are today and Cheatle was up and....

Not a sterling performance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqJ1XcWF2M0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_NTyyG0bZY

K Frame · « **Reply #569 on:** July 22, 2024, 03:14:31 PM »

Quote from: Brad Johnson on July 22, 2024, 11:34:17 AM

The fact that they didn't have every line-of-sight rooftop withing 300 yards covered by either overwatch or dedicated foot patrol, especially in an area so open and covered with single-story roofs, is the Epic Fail of all Epic Fails.

Brad

No no no! Walking on level ground on foot in warm weather is a dangerous activity! There are health and safety risks at play there!

K Frame · « **Reply #570 on:** July 22, 2024, 03:17:26 PM »

“We must learn what happened and I will move heaven and earth to ensure an incident like July 13th does not happen again,” said Cheatle, who is testifying under subpoena before the House Oversight and Accountability Committee. "Of course, if heaven and earth are sloped, there are safety concerns that may require us not to go there."

Yeah. The last line is my fake news. But it's true fake news.

Ben · « **Reply #571 on:** July 22, 2024, 03:46:18 PM »

Break out more tinfoil:

https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/07/22/oversight-project-thread-crooks-crazy-n2398696

WLJ · « **Reply #572 on:** July 22, 2024, 03:50:08 PM »

Quote from: Ben on July 22, 2024, 03:46:18 PM

Break out more tinfoil:

https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/07/22/oversight-project-thread-crooks-crazy-n2398696

Just saw that and I think we're gonna need a bigger grain of salt

WLJ · « **Reply #573 on:** July 22, 2024, 03:58:20 PM »

I swear, I hate the internet some times.
Seeing stuff saying the Crowdstrike crash was to coverup the deletion of evidence in the attempted assassination of Trump off government computers

Northwoods · « **Reply #574 on:** July 22, 2024, 04:11:24 PM »

Quote from: Ben on July 22, 2024, 03:46:18 PM

Break out more tinfoil:

https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/07/22/oversight-project-thread-crooks-crazy-n2398696

Actually looking at that the only things that were even mildly suspicious were the DC visit and the Butler visit. And the DC phone visit is weak sauce (somebodyCrooks knew went to DC - that their phone went near, but not in an FBI building can be coincidence giventhe FBI probably has dozens of buildings in the city). The Butler phone visit is a lot more sus.

The rest is honestly what you more or less expect from any random kids phone associations.

News:

Author Topic: Gun shots at Trump rally (Read 26466 times)