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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2024, 08:57:23 PM »
Trump posted that it was a bullet.
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I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear.

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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2024, 08:59:34 PM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13631923/trump-shooter-pennsylvania-rally.html

Shrapnel would make sense for that wound as one possibility. Another thing where we'll need to wait for the forensics.
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2024, 09:03:58 PM »
Shooter was outside the security perimeter.


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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2024, 09:04:42 PM »
https://x.com/Mrgunsngear/status/1812279702649979077

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The AP just said the shooter was
"killed by a counter sniper team."   

Again, *if* that's true, and a roof was not covered by the Secret Service this close - there will be a lot of questions...
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2024, 09:08:58 PM »
https://x.com/Mrgunsngear/status/1812279702649979077


If that is accurate, that is absolutely unacceptable security protection precautions.
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #55 on: July 13, 2024, 09:10:31 PM »
If it was a 1500 yard shot, OK, I can forgive the SS not having that rooftop secured.  But 150ish yards is criminal incompetence at best.  Collusion at worst.
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #56 on: July 13, 2024, 09:16:16 PM »
"growing concern"

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NEW: Two senior U.S. law enforcement officials tell NBC News there is a growing concern in law enforcement circles that this may have been a serious attempt on the life of former President Donald Trump
https://x.com/MSNBC/status/1812267663248236949
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2024, 09:18:45 PM »
If that is accurate, that is absolutely unacceptable security protection precautions.

Supposedly his SS detail had been requesting additional resources for weeks based on increased threats, and the SS Director repeatedly denied the requests.
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2024, 09:29:12 PM »
Supposedly his SS detail had been requesting additional resources for weeks based on increased threats, and the SS Director repeatedly denied the requests.
I am Shocked by that statement.  Absolutetly shocked (not).   :O  :mad:
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2024, 09:36:17 PM »
Reports people tried to warn security about a man on the roof with a rifle but they were ignored
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #60 on: July 13, 2024, 09:42:27 PM »
Here's an interesting video
Looks like the the SS sniper(s) already had the shooter spotted before he opened fire.

https://x.com/slightly_0ff/status/1812296281471267056
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #61 on: July 13, 2024, 09:43:58 PM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13631923/trump-shooter-pennsylvania-rally.html

It's been edited. Here's what I just read from that article.

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He wrote: 'I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!'

It had previously been suggested that Trump was struck and injured by a piece of a shattered teleprompter. 

Seconds later, the blood-covered lawmaker pumped his fist in the air to indicate that he was fine, while surrounded by Secret Service agents, before being led away.

You can tell from the video that his ear was on the other side of his head from where a teleprompter would have been.
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #62 on: July 13, 2024, 09:47:56 PM »
"... and now I want to hand it over to the president of Ukraine who has as much courage as he has determination.  Ladies and gentlemen, President Putin."
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2024, 09:49:50 PM »
Well, that didn't take long:

https://preview.mailerlite.io/emails/webview/808547/126792978819712080

"Can't you wait a day?" should go for our side as well as theirs.
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2024, 10:00:39 PM »
Agreed, but I couldn't pass this one up:


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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2024, 10:03:01 PM »
"Can't you wait a day?" should go for our side as well as theirs.

Absolutely can't wait. Gotta strike while the iron is hot. I mean, tomorrow Taylor Swift could fall down on stage and that will dominate the news cycle for several days. As a Swiftie you should be able to understand that.  :O

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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #66 on: July 13, 2024, 10:03:13 PM »
Reports the shooter and an audience member are dead
Shooter will no doubt be proclaimed as a hero by the left

I'm guessing his social media presence has been scrubbed by now.
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #67 on: July 13, 2024, 10:03:59 PM »
Biden apparently going to address the nation about the assassination attempt.

They'll have to wake him up and write it for him.
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #68 on: July 13, 2024, 10:07:52 PM »
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Elon Musk
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So before being in charge of protecting the President, she was guarding bags of Cheetos …
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1812296953671340451

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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #69 on: July 13, 2024, 10:14:00 PM »
^^^

Is that *expletive deleted*it for real? I expect Ambassadorial jobs - heck - even something like SECSTATE and the like to be prizes for the loyalists on both sides, but SS Director should absolutely require an LE or LE adjacent resume. Especially if they are making operational decisions.
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #70 on: July 13, 2024, 10:16:20 PM »
^^^

Is that *expletive deleted*it for real? I expect Ambassadorial jobs - heck - even something like SECSTATE and the like to be prizes for the loyalists on both sides, but SS Director should absolutely require an LE or LE adjacent resume. Especially if they are making operational decisions.

Can't confirm at this point
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2024, 10:19:49 PM »
^^^

Is that *expletive deleted*it for real? I expect Ambassadorial jobs - heck - even something like SECSTATE and the like to be prizes for the loyalists on both sides, but SS Director should absolutely require an LE or LE adjacent resume. Especially if they are making operational decisions.

Could have a law enforcement background.
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2024, 10:24:08 PM »
Could have a law enforcement background.

Ok, it looks like Elon just cut one part of her resume and she actually used to be an SS agent:

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Cheatle joined the United States Secret Service in 1995.[1] In 2017 and 2018, she served as deputy assistant director. She also served as special-agent-in-charge in the Grand Rapids, Michigan, office. She became the first woman to serve as assistant director of Protective Operations, a department tasked with protection of the president and dignitaries, and managed a budget of over $133.5 million.[2] During her tenure, Cheatle was assigned to the Vice Presidential Protective Division during the Obama administration.[3]
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2024, 10:24:18 PM »
Can't confirm at this point

https://www.secretservice.gov/about/leadership/director

The blurb is real, but not her complete bio.  She worked for the Secret Service for 27 years, then left for PepsiCo, then came back as SS Director.
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Re: Gun shots at Trump rally
« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2024, 10:25:45 PM »
Ok, it looks like Elon just cut one part of her resume and she actually used to be an SS agent:

Elon didn't post that he was commenting on it
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