Another attempt to kill Trump

[WLJ]

No.  The Advance team was the one that saw the shooter while going ahead of Trump.  Shooter was between Hole 5 and Hole 7.  5 is a par 3 and 7 is a par 2. You should be able to sink a par 3 with your duty rifle, no Sniper needed.

(Internet says Hole 5 is 228 yds. take a kneeling position and send it.)

Too early for this  and I need more coffee

[HeroHog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il5W-oecPuA

[WLJ]

This aged well

[WLJ]

A lot of people are asking how did he know Trump would be playing golf there that day?
Trying to keep the tinfoil hat off I'm thinking maybe he followed Trump's car/motorcade from Mar-a-Lago perhaps originally thinking of giving it a go there.

[Tuco]

I'm most alarmed by a golf course with a par 2 hole.

Does it have a windmill and the choice of 3 cups?

[French G.]

No.  The Advance team was the one that saw the shooter while going ahead of Trump.  Shooter was between Hole 5 and Hole 7.  5 is a par 3 and 7 is a par 2. You should be able to sink a par 3 with your duty rifle, no Sniper needed.

(Internet says Hole 5 is 228 yds. take a kneeling position and send it.)

I agree that's a chip shot with a service rifle or a tapco system but do the agents carry rifles or is it a pdw or subjunctive undercarriage jacket? I got passed by Laura Bush's motorcade once and they had a trunk monkey in the back of the Tahoe so I would assume something belt fed like a SAW but you don't often see the immediate detail with long guns. I am sure the are close.

[Bogie]

200 yards with a handgun is doable... Not intensely likely, but a magdump into a 6 foot grouping would be a bit nerve-wracking... I'm sort of wondering if Trump could get contractors onto the team... And give 'em some cut-down carbines...

[WLJ]

Had an SKS in a Monte Carlo stock a while back that had a Mosin like side receiver attached detachable scope mount and you almost never see them with those. This setup was quite sturdy and held a perfect zero. Much more commonly you'll find SKSs with dusk cover style mounts which are notorious for not holding zero.

Hoping this wasn't the one I sold ~10 years ago and it somehow made it's way to him. 
Bayo lug was ground off on mine giving it a more streamlined appearance and there there other certain things done to it that if I see them I know it was mine.

[dogmush]

I agree that's a chip shot with a service rifle or a tapco system but do the agents carry rifles or is it a pdw or subjunctive undercarriage jacket? I got passed by Laura Bush's motorcade once and they had a trunk monkey in the back of the Tahoe so I would assume something belt fed like a SAW but you don't often see the immediate detail with long guns. I am sure the are close.

I am not an expert in USSS tactics.  For that matter, I'm not sure the USSS is an expert in USSS tactics, but If I have done VIP protection (in the Army, in a war zone, so a bit different, but still).  If I were building an executive protection detail, the close in guys would wear the suits and pistols you so often see, and the intermediate guys would be in civies with PDW's concealed so they weren't 100% obvious, but the farther out guys?  The folks 1-2 holes ahead of the VIP doing route clearance?  If those guys aren't in plate carriers with duty rifles, you done *expletive deleted*ed up IMO.  Not just for the response to a threat (like this one), but you are going to want a show of overwhelming force for anyone doing recon for a future attack. 

JMO, USSS might have a different one.

[WLJ]

Alexander Vindman's wife has to be the most ugly and disgusting person in America. Those two deserve each other.

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/09/15/rachel-vindman-no-ears-were-harmed-n2401001

She's sorry

Rachel Vindman 🇺🇸🦅🌻
@natsechobbyist
Sorry you’re triggered.

🤣🤣🤣

I mean no I’m not. I don’t care a little bit 🫶🏻

https://x.com/natsechobbyist/status/1835419123347554735

[MechAg94]

I can and have put rounds on a silhouette at 50 and 100 yards with my carry pistol.  It wasn't every shot.  I certainly couldn't guarantee a hit on the first shot.  If someone was in the bushes, they would likely move immediately upon being shot at.

[HeroHog]

https://rumble.com/v5f55o1--unraveling-trump-assassin-ryan-rouths-bizarre-history.html?e9s=src_v1_mfp

https://rumble.com/v5f4tms-trump-almost-assassinated-againis-the-state-behind-it-ep.43-091624.html?e9s=src_v1_mfp

https://rumble.com/v5f53kc-is-there-a-mole-inside-the-secret-service-another-trump-assassination-attem.html?e9s=src_v1_mfp

[WLJ]

I can and have put rounds on a silhouette at 50 and 100 yards with my carry pistol.  It wasn't every shot.  I certainly couldn't guarantee a hit on the first shot.  If someone was in the bushes, they would likely move immediately upon being shot at.

They likely knew that firing at him even with little chance of hitting him with a handgun would likely make him go to cover and/or move/run but even if it didn't there was a chance doing so could spoil his aim. People tend to get nervous when shot at even when there's little chance they'll be hit especially if they've never had it happen before and it appears this guy instead of returning fire panicked and ran leaving all his gear behind.

[HankB]

200 yards with a handgun is doable... Not intensely likely, but a magdump into a 6 foot grouping would be a bit nerve-wracking... I'm sort of wondering if Trump could get contractors onto the team... And give 'em some cut-down carbines...

IHMSA pistol matches include a stage with a ram at 200 yards. (or meters.) Yes, SOME of the custom "unlimited" pistols used resemble cut down rifles, but I've seen enough matches fired with more "normal" handguns to know that I wouldn't want to stand out there and let someone plink away at me with a service pistol.

[dogmush]

It's remarkably hard to find pics of the SS detail in front of the pres on a golf course, but I did find this from the Obama years:

https://english.cctv.com/20090825/108052_3.shtml

Members of the United States Secret Service Counter Assault Team
look out from the fairway ahead of U.S. President Barack Obama
during his round of golf at the Farm Neck golf course in Oak Bluffs,
 Massachusetts on the Island of Martha's Vineyard August 24, 2009.

That's not a service pistol in that bag. Of course, that was a sitting president, and the USSS didn't want him to get shot. [Note to the agent: It's a joke, I'm sure you guys are doing your best]

I'd still bet the guys out clearing the course had rifles.  Undiscussed so far in this thread is PID as well.  Getting good enough Target ID to shoot (in a golf course, in West Palm) from 100-200 yds out is going to require glass. If you are glassing a tree line with binos, and then transitioning to your Sig to estimate a 200 yd 9mm hold, I'm not sure that's a good shoot situation.  There are going to be people on the other side of that tree line.

[WLJ]

It's remarkably hard to find pics of the SS detail in front of the pres on a golf course, but I did find this from the Obama years:

They've already stated Trump doesn't get full level protection because he's not a sitting pres. Where the line is drawn in what kind of protection I don't know.

[HankB]

. . . Of course, that was a sitting president, and the USSS didn't want him to get shot. [Note to the agent: It's a joke, I'm sure you guys are doing your best]. . .

The "bullet catchers" who immediately shield POTUS or a candidate deserve accolades, but all it takes is one - JUST ONE - somewhat senior disgruntled agent in a management role to do a deliberately bad job and leave a hole in security for some unknown actor(s) to take advantage of.

[WLJ]

Yikes

Ryan Wesley Routh, the man named as the suspect in a possible assassination attempt at Donald Trump's Florida golf club, urged Iran to kill the former president in a book he self-published last year.

In 'Ukraine's Unwinnable War,' he said he had made a terrible mistake in once voting for Trump, whom he described as a 'buffoon.'

'I must take part of the blame for the retarded child we elected for our next president that ended up being brainless, but I am man enough to say that I misjudged and made a terrible mistake and Iran I apologize,' he said, after berating the former president for abandoning the nuclear deal with Tehran.

'You are free to assassinate Trump as well as me for that error in judgment and the dismantling of the deal.

The e-book is still available on Amazon for $2.99.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13855563/Donald-Trump-assassination-attempt-live-updates-key-unanswered-question-shooting.html

[cordex]

That's not a service pistol in that bag. Of course, that was a sitting president, and the USSS didn't want him to get shot. [Note to the agent: It's a joke, I'm sure you guys are doing your best]

By the time the guy by the long rifle grabs it and gets his sights on, maybe his partner has already let a couple of rounds go and scared away the shooter.

I'd still bet the guys out clearing the course had rifles.  Undiscussed so far in this thread is PID as well.  Getting good enough Target ID to shoot (in a golf course, in West Palm) from 100-200 yds out is going to require glass. If you are glassing a tree line with binos, and then transitioning to your Sig to estimate a 200 yd 9mm hold, I'm not sure that's a good shoot situation.  There are going to be people on the other side of that tree line.

I bet that the more attempts (or potentially successful assassinations) that happen, the looser and looser the SS is going to get with PID requirements.

[WLJ]

By the time the guy by the long rifle grabs it and gets his sights on, maybe his partner has already let a couple of rounds go and scared away the shooter.
I bet that the more attempts (or potentially successful assassinations) that happen, the looser and looser the SS is going to get with PID requirements.

As Dogmush stated that photo is from the Obama years and not yesterday.

Has anyone seen anything showing what the SS team at the golf course was equip with yesterday?

[cordex]

As Dogmush stated that photo is from the Obama years and not yesterday.

Has anyone seen anything showing what the SS team at the golf course was equip with yesterday?

I'm aware, I'm saying that if those CAT guys were in the same scenario it is entirely possible the more effective weapon did not have a chance to get into play.

[WLJ]

I'm aware, I'm saying that if those CAT guys were in the same scenario it is entirely possible the more effective weapon did not have a chance to get into play.

I could have been clearer and I wasn't disagreeing with that part just got the impression you thought that was from yesterday.
But again, did they have rifles on site yesterday? IDK

[WLJ]

TBB comes out and says it with something that's only 5% satire

Democrats Accuse Trump Of Inciting Further Violence By Not Dying
https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-accuse-trump-of-inciting-further-violence-by-not-dying

[WLJ]

"golf club incident"


https://x.com/abigailmarone/status/1835667110728442130

[Ben]

^^^

"Golf club incident"