Breaking news... Anticipating the worst-case scenario of a Trump victory...

[K Frame]

287 Democrats have filed articles of impeachment.

Obviously satire (on my part) but the real question is... how quickly to the Dems move to actually file articles of impeachment if he does win?

[Perd Hapley]

I'm assuming they can't actually bring an impeachment until after inauguration. So probably as soon as his hand leaves the Bible.

[Ben]

So what do you guys actually think will happen if Trump wins or if Trump loses?

I think if he wins, and is sworn in with no judicial or "three months before we know the results" shenanigans, we'll just see everything from 2016 ramped up to 10. The dems will call it a stolen election and antifa et al will burn and destroy more than they did before, mostly in their own cities. Inside the gov, the impeachments will come non-stop, but hopefully Trump actually does immediately clean house both with appointees and on the civil service side. It will likely create an even bigger outrage, but in the end it would drastically cut down a repeat of all the sabotaging from 2016-2020.

If he loses, I don't know. I don't think our side will turn antifa violent, but there are a LOT of people this time that voted for Trump not for Trump, but against the woke, cancel culture, and lawfare. With the latter, again, with Trump simply being the surrogate showing what the gov can do to us if we let them. With a lot of non-traditional Republican ticket voters this time, it's hard for me to gauge the reaction, but it won't just be pissed off "MAGAs" this time.

As for me, if he loses, I'm just giving up. I'll still vote, but I truly believe it will be a rapid descent into socialistic totalitarianism, and my best bet at my age, and where I'm lucky to now live is just to get even further under the radar, and...

“I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.”

I'm lucky enough to already own most of the tools they want to ban. Might as well be an outlaw.

[MillCreek]

I think that regardless of who wins or loses, both parties will use this to ask for donations to help fight election fraud. 

[HeroHog]

I bought this for Terri: https://crowdershop.com/products/trump-won-hoodie

[K Frame]

"we'll just see everything from 2016 ramped up to 10."

Looks like MSNBC is already pushing hard to make that happen.

[Ben]

"we'll just see everything from 2016 ramped up to 10."

Looks like MSNBC is already pushing hard to make that happen.

I actually saw a clip with one of them saying that the racist country couldn't handle a black president. 

[K Frame]

I actually saw a clip with one of them saying that the racist country couldn't handle a black president. 

Wow... MSNBC has finally admitted that Barak Obama isn't black.

[Ben]

I can't wait to see the video clips from The View today. 

[Perd Hapley]

Looks like pets are off the menu, boys!

[K Frame]

Looks like pets are off the menu, boys!

But not soon enough to save P'nut...

[230RN]

I can't wait to see the video clips from The View today. 

Just more mindless pack behavior.

[MechAg94]

So what do you guys actually think will happen if Trump wins or if Trump loses?

I think if he wins, and is sworn in with no judicial or "three months before we know the results" shenanigans, we'll just see everything from 2016 ramped up to 10. The dems will call it a stolen election and antifa et al will burn and destroy more than they did before, mostly in their own cities. Inside the gov, the impeachments will come non-stop, but hopefully Trump actually does immediately clean house both with appointees and on the civil service side. It will likely create an even bigger outrage, but in the end it would drastically cut down a repeat of all the sabotaging from 2016-2020.

If he loses, I don't know. I don't think our side will turn antifa violent, but there are a LOT of people this time that voted for Trump not for Trump, but against the woke, cancel culture, and lawfare. With the latter, again, with Trump simply being the surrogate showing what the gov can do to us if we let them. With a lot of non-traditional Republican ticket voters this time, it's hard for me to gauge the reaction, but it won't just be pissed off "MAGAs" this time.

As for me, if he loses, I'm just giving up. I'll still vote, but I truly believe it will be a rapid descent into socialistic totalitarianism, and my best bet at my age, and where I'm lucky to now live is just to get even further under the radar, and...

I'm lucky enough to already own most of the tools they want to ban. Might as well be an outlaw.

Looks like the R's will keep the House so no impeachments should be coming.  I am sure D's will talk about it. 

From what I heard, the R's gained at least one Senate seat.  They should be able to get Trump's appointments approved.  I don't think they allow filibuster for appointments, but I could be wrong.  The appointments were the main thing I was concerned about.  Trump has limited ability to hire and fire in the agencies if his appointees are not ratified. 

The amusing thing would be if the Democrats tried to stage a protest at the capitol on the day of certification of the results. 

Speaking of J6, I really hope Trump pardon's all those people and fires a whole bunch of federal prosecutors.  I would love to see some judges impeached, but I guess they don't have the votes for that.  Also some investigation into issues I heard about where only a couple of defense attorneys were willing to defend those people. 
I imagine Trump will have a whole raft of first day, first week executive orders and pardons. 

[Ben]

Looks like the R's will keep the House so no impeachments should be coming.  I am sure D's will talk about it. 

From what I heard, the R's gained at least one Senate seat.  They should be able to get Trump's appointments approved.  I don't think they allow filibuster for appointments, but I could be wrong.  The appointments were the main thing I was concerned about.  Trump has limited ability to hire and fire in the agencies if his appointees are not ratified. 

The amusing thing would be if the Democrats tried to stage a protest at the capitol on the day of certification of the results. 

Speaking of J6, I really hope Trump pardon's all those people and fires a whole bunch of federal prosecutors.  I would love to see some judges impeached, but I guess they don't have the votes for that.  Also some investigation into issues I heard about where only a couple of defense attorneys were willing to defend those people. 
I imagine Trump will have a whole raft of first day, first week executive orders and pardons.

The landslide results were certainly unexpected by me. I was figuring on a close call win for Trump, with likely dem majorities in house and senate, so much of my OP worry is out the window. I will continue to be an outlaw though. 

I too, hope that he pardons and commutes J6 prosecutions, and I'd like to see that one judge up on Federal charges. I would like the Trump team to be careful about it. We can't deny that some people destroyed property, and there should be some legal repercussions for that. At this point, "time served" should have more than covered that though. Certainly the people who were sentenced to nearly two decades in jail for speech need to be exonerated immediately, and I hope they sue the US govt for millions of dollars.

[K Frame]

"Looks like the R's will keep the House so no impeachments should be coming.  I am sure D's will talk about it.  "

But I have NO doubt that Dems will keep pushing articles of impeachment every chance they get.

[cordex]

How do you guys think Trump's election will impact his existing convictions and ongoing trials?

[MechAg94]

How do you guys think Trump's election will impact his existing convictions and ongoing trials?

I think they will go away (federal actions) or they will be set aside on appeal.  I am sure the D's will try to see that felony conviction pushed through to use as an excuse to not certify the election, but I am doubtful it will work in the end.

[Ben]

How do you guys think Trump's election will impact his existing convictions and ongoing trials?

That will be a tough one to navigate. Pardoning himself on some of the lawfare, like the absolutely bogus NY trials could be pretty bad optics. On the other hand, I sincerely believe that a LARGE portion of the popular vote for him was because people saw that ongoing lawfare and thought, "That could be me."

So while the MSM might run 24/7 with negative perspectives of any "breaks" for him regarding the lawfare, what we see on the teevee will likely not at all reflect what most normal people think about it.

[WLJ]

That will be a tough one to navigate. Pardoning himself on some of the lawfare, like the absolutely bogus NY trials could be pretty bad optics. On the other hand, I sincerely believe that a LARGE portion of the popular vote for him was because people saw that ongoing lawfare and thought, "That could be me."

So while the MSM might run 24/7 with negative perspectives of any "breaks" for him regarding the lawfare, what we see on the teevee will likely not at all reflect what most normal people think about it.

The liberal tears flow even more if Biden pardoned him just to F with Harris even more which I think he's been doing in not so subtle ways

[MechAg94]

Fact check to make sure I am keeping up with news.  I understand ALL the federal trials against Trump have fallen apart and are back in the investigation phase.  The only one of concern is the "conviction" in the New York state court.  I am not sure where the one in Georgia is at the moment.

It is also my understanding that those two trials have some serious issues on the conduct of the judge and prosecutors.  In New York, they passed a new law solely for the purpose of allowing the prosecution of Trump.  My only question there is whether higher courts will review it before the inauguration. 

[dogmush]

That will be a tough one to navigate. Pardoning himself on some of the lawfare, like the absolutely bogus NY trials could be pretty bad optics. On the other hand, I sincerely believe that a LARGE portion of the popular vote for him was because people saw that ongoing lawfare and thought, "That could be me."

So while the MSM might run 24/7 with negative perspectives of any "breaks" for him regarding the lawfare, what we see on the teevee will likely not at all reflect what most normal people think about it.

I could be wrong, but I don't think he CAN pardon himself on those charges.  They are state charges brought by the State of New York.  Hochul would be the pardoning authority on those, and I wouldn't hold my breath.

[HankB]

I could be wrong, but I don't think he CAN pardon himself on those charges.  They are state charges brought by the State of New York.  Hochul would be the pardoning authority on those, and I wouldn't hold my breath.

Hey Kathy, you know those semi-clandestine illegal alien flights Biden is using to bring 300,000 illegals a year into the US? Wouldn't it be a shame if instead of being halted, they were all just diverted into New York State?   

[WLJ]

It is also my understanding that those two trials have some serious issues on the conduct of the judge and prosecutors.  In New York, they passed a new law solely for the purpose of allowing the prosecution of Trump.  My only question there is whether higher courts will review it before the inauguration.

Isn't there a law that says you can't retroactively prosecute someone

[MillCreek]

Isn't there a law that says you can't retroactively prosecute someone

Ex post facto.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/ex_post_facto

[WLJ]

Ex post facto.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/ex_post_facto

Thanks, figured it was in the constitution somewhere just couldn't get it out of my still fogged over brain this morning.