When/what will it take for the left to back off?

[Bogie]

Around here, seems like they're doubling down on the whole bit - "Trump is gonna put you back in chains" and "Trump is going to make you handmaidens" and so on...
 
The proggies seem to want another batch of plywood boardups...

[AmbulanceDriver]

Around here, seems like they're doubling down on the whole bit - "Trump is gonna put you back in chains" and "Trump is going to make you handmaidens" and so on...
 
The proggies seem to want another batch of plywood boardups... [/i]

I think when that didn't happen after the election was called for Trump, people were rather surprised.  So they're pushing and pushing to try to get the useful idiots riled up.   I'm guessing to get things fired up at the inauguration.

[Angel Eyes]

I expect things to more sporting as we get closer to Trump's re-inauguration.

[Northwoods]

I expect things to more sporting as we get closer to Trump's re-inauguration.

I'll be surprised if there's no serious assassination attempts, or terrorist bombings/shootings either at, or adjacent to the inauguration. I really hope the Secret Service brings their A game.

[bedlamite]

[K Frame]

I'll be surprised if there's no serious assassination attempts, or terrorist bombings/shootings either at, or adjacent to the inauguration. I really hope the Secret Service brings their A game.

Isn't it funny how, when Obama was running, the left was SURE that he'd never survive the campaign, nor his inauguration, nor his first term, nor his second, because the racist right-wing rednecks would be coming for him?

And it's it funny how, the last three bona fide assassination attempts that have been made on high-ranking politicians have been... left leaning assailants who have wounded multiple conservative politicians?

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean anything about that... I'd certainly never accuse anyone on the left of...

Doing exactly what they thought the right would do.

That would be so mean of me.

[JTHunter]

Isn't it funny how, when Obama was running, the left was SURE that he'd never survive the campaign, nor his inauguration, nor his first term, nor his second, because the racist right-wing rednecks would be coming for him?

And it's it funny how, the last three bona fide assassination attempts that have been made on high-ranking politicians have been... left leaning assailants who have wounded multiple conservative politicians?

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean anything about that... I'd certainly never accuse anyone on the left of...

Doing exactly what they thought the right would do.

That would be so mean of me.

      

[Bogie]

JT, how far did that Bernie boy who shot up the baseball practice live from you?
 
I'm figuring that we're probably going to see them armed with those horrid semi-automatic rifles which haven't even been sighted in...
 

[MechAg94]

I sort of doubt they will back off.  What it will take is for other Democrats to replace them and take the lead in running for office. 

However, it seems to me that the Democrat party is funded in part by a lot of left wing rich people and foundations that have a lot of money.  I am pretty sure most of those are run by far left people.  I don't think you will see someone like RFK move up in the party anytime soon.

[Northwoods]

I sort of doubt they will back off.  What it will take is for other Democrats to replace them and take the lead in running for office. 

However, it seems to me that the Democrat party is funded in part by a lot of left wing rich people and foundations that have a lot of money.  I am pretty sure most of those are run by far left people.  I don't think you will see someone like RFK move up in the party anytime soon.

Yeah, to answer the actual question (unusual here) to get the left to back off either MechAg's scenario has to play out, or they'll have to be wiped out in CW2.  Hopefully it winds up being the former, but more than 50/50 it will require the latter.

[K Frame]

I think you're going to see two things...

You're going to see the Democratic party largely move back towards the center.

You're also going to see something of a civil war/schism within the Democratic party as the small cadre of hyper liberals attempt to take the party even MORE hyper liberal.

For the past dozen or so years it was the hyper liberal cadre that seized control of the Democratic Party through weaponization of identity politics, criminalization of any small degree of different think, and control of the loud "shout down" demonization politics (you're a Nazi! you're a fascist! you're a homophobe! you're anti XYZPDQ!)

The liberal center thought they would be able to regain control of the hyper liberal cadre when they served their purpose of neutralizing Trump and Maga conservatives. They never saw what the hyper liberal cadre was actually doing -- filling people with disgust and making them either turn even harder to the right or, in numbers that shocked everyone, turn on the left which they had always supported.

It didn't help that the liberal center's responses to legitimate criticisms and fears from the American people -- high prices, high inflation, slipping standards of living, and on and on and on -- were incredibly tone deaf, dismissive, and defeatist.

My biggest fear is that the Democrats get their *expletive deleted*it together in the next four years.

Actually, that's my second biggest fear.

My biggest fear is that the Republicans monumentally *expletive deleted*ck things up once again and hand things to the Democrats on a silver platter.

[RocketMan]

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My biggest fear is that the Democrats get their *expletive deleted*it together in the next four years.

Actually, that's my second biggest fear.

My biggest fear is that the Republicans monumentally *expletive deleted*ck things up once again and hand things to the Democrats on a silver platter.

This is what will happen.  Let history be your teacher.  Normal folks will again be disappointed by the Republicans and turn to the Democrats "for change" or "a new direction".   Unfortunately, folks will forget that "change" or "a new direction" is just the same old *expletive deleted*it, different day, from the Democrats.

[JTHunter]

JT, how far did that Bernie boy who shot up the baseball practice live from you?
 
I'm figuring that we're probably going to see them armed with those horrid semi-automatic rifles which haven't even been sighted in...

Are you referring the nutter that shot the Congressional baseball game and Steve Scalise several years ago?  I don't where that guy was from originally. 

[JTHunter]

My biggest fear is that the Democrats get their *expletive deleted*it together in the next four years.

Actually, that's my second biggest fear.

My biggest fear is that the Republicans monumentally *expletive deleted*ck things up once again and hand things to the Democrats on a silver platter.

Depending on what DJT is able to accomplish in the next TWO years will be more important.  If the Left can flip either the House and/or the Senate in '26, that will hamstring Trump and essentially "neuter" him for his last 2 years.

[Bogie]

Are you referring the nutter that shot the Congressional baseball game and Steve Scalise several years ago?  I don't where that guy was from originally. 

Dude, he's from the general region of Bellevegas...

[Bogie]

Er...
 
Was.

[zahc]

I think you're going to see two things...

You're going to see the Democratic party largely move back towards the center.

You're also going to see something of a civil war/schism within the Democratic party as the small cadre of hyper liberals attempt to take the party even MORE hyper liberal.

For the past dozen or so years it was the hyper liberal cadre that seized control of the Democratic Party through weaponization of identity politics, criminalization of any small degree of different think, and control of the loud "shout down" demonization politics (you're a Nazi! you're a fascist! you're a homophobe! you're anti XYZPDQ!)

The liberal center thought they would be able to regain control of the hyper liberal cadre when they served their purpose of neutralizing Trump and Maga conservatives. They never saw what the hyper liberal cadre was actually doing -- filling people with disgust and making them either turn even harder to the right or, in numbers that shocked everyone, turn on the left which they had always supported.

It didn't help that the liberal center's responses to legitimate criticisms and fears from the American people -- high prices, high inflation, slipping standards of living, and on and on and on -- were incredibly tone deaf, dismissive, and defeatist.

My biggest fear is that the Democrats get their *expletive deleted*it together in the next four years.

Actually, that's my second biggest fear.

My biggest fear is that the Republicans monumentally *expletive deleted*ck things up once again and hand things to the Democrats on a silver platter.

This is a good take. I'd also add the democrats' silence on issues ostensibly important to liberals like their continued silence on the housing crisis and homelessnness. They were only just starting to make moves on those; now that they lost they will probably ramps up some [flawed and always] policy responses for next time. Republicans would be smart to head them off with their own, less flawed policy responses, but Republicans aren't smart.

[K Frame]

"I'd also add the democrats' silence on issues ostensibly important to liberals like their continued silence on the housing crisis and homelessnness."

That qualifies as the "and on and on and on" portion of the last 8 years of Democratic Party positioning.

I should have also said that many of the liberal center's responses to legitimate criticisms and fears were also out and out hostile as hell (biological men in women's sports, biological men in women's changing rooms, etc.) to those who dared to voice their concerns.

Democrats have decried the "war on women" allegedly waged by the right when, in fact, Democrats have been waging a fierce, and in many ways predatory, war on women in the guise of "equality." 

[JTHunter]

Dude, he's from the general region of Bellevegas...

Really?  I didn't know that.