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Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Reply #150 on: January 21, 2025, 12:52:39 PM »
To be clear, Shadow Systems recently made these pistols specifically for CA. No SS pistols have ever had disconnects, nor do any new SS pistols outside CA have them.
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Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Reply #151 on: January 21, 2025, 02:14:18 PM »
Shadow Systems recently made these pistols specifically for CA. No SS pistols have ever had disconnects, nor do any new SS pistols outside CA have them.

SS page indicates XR920 was developed in response to Law Enforcement request - https://shadowsystemscorp.com/xr920/
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Regardless of court injunctions, many CA law enforcement agencies require magazine disconnect mechanism (MDM) for duty weapons and if SS XR920 was targeted for Law Enforcement use, it explains why XR920 has MDM even though court injunctions do not require it for listing on CA Handgun roster.

It's like how many newly added pistols have Loaded Chamber Indicator (LCI) even though LCI is no longer required for CA Handgun roster.

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« Reply #152 on: January 21, 2025, 02:15:57 PM »
Neither of my XR920s have one.
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« Reply #153 on: January 21, 2025, 02:25:06 PM »
Neither of my XR920s have one.
I actually prefer not having magazine disconnect.

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« Reply #154 on: January 21, 2025, 02:37:36 PM »
Update to AW/Magazine Ban - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461713#msg1461713

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SCOTUS just relisted Snope and Ocean State Tactical as expected for January 24. We need a cert grant by midnight January 24 or we are toast for this term imho

And SAF still has another case pending conference on the 24th - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461713#msg1461713
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B&L Productions v Newsom (CA gun show on state property) - https://www.saf.org/bl-productions-v-newsom/

SUPREME COURT DISTRIBUTES THIRD SAF CASE FOR CONFERENCE - https://www.saf.org/supreme-court-distributes-third-saf-case-for-conference/

The U.S. Supreme Court has distributed a third Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) case, B&L Productions v. Newsom, for conference on Friday, Jan. 24

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Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Reply #155 on: January 21, 2025, 02:46:00 PM »
I'd be interested in looking at a CA XR920.  I'm pretty familiar with a Glock trigger mechanism, and I'd be interested in how they engineered and installed a mag disconnect.  I also wonder what that does to the trigger pull.

SS page indicates XR920 was developed in response to Law Enforcement request - https://shadowsystemscorp.com/xr920/Regardless of court injunctions, many CA law enforcement agencies require magazine disconnect mechanism (MDM) for duty weapons and if SS XR920 was targeted for Law Enforcement use, it explains why XR920 has MDM even though court injunctions do not require it for listing on CA Handgun roster.



For Clarity, "the XR920" does not have a mag disconnect.  That's the model that was "born out of a request from Law Enforcement".  There is a specific submodel of the XR920 that is CA compliant with an MDM. It has a specific model number (SS3039CA).  That's not the gun the blurb on the XR920 page is talking about

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Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Reply #156 on: January 21, 2025, 02:50:40 PM »
For Clarity, "the XR920" does not have a mag disconnect.  That's the model that was "born out of a request from Law Enforcement".  There is a specific submodel of the XR920 that is CA compliant with an MDM. It has a specific model number (SS3039CA).

I was responding to Ben's post why CA approved models all have magazine disconnect.

I see that the Shadow Systems pistols recently approved for CA sales all have magazine disconnects.

Though if the mag disconnect ban is no longer in place in CA, I wonder why they would go through the expense of adding one.

And looks like "XR920" is the CA compliant model "SS 3039-CA".  These are recently added CA models - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461226#msg1461226

- Shadow Systems   XR920 SS-3039-CA*   9MM   Pistol   3.75"   01/01/2025
- Shadow Systems   DR920P SS-2239-CA*   9MM   Pistol   4.5"   01/01/2025
- Shadow Systems   MR920 SS-1039-CA*   9MM   Pistol   3.75"   01/01/2025

And SS pages for different models:

XR920 - https://shadowsystemscorp.com/xr920/
DR920P - https://shadowsystemscorp.com/dr920p/
MR920 - https://shadowsystemscorp.com/mr920/

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Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Reply #157 on: January 21, 2025, 02:57:50 PM »
I'd be interested in looking at a CA XR920.  I'm pretty familiar with a Glock trigger mechanism, and I'd be interested in how they engineered and installed a mag disconnect.  I also wonder what that does to the trigger pull.

It might not be a true disconnect (note: I know nothing about them). Jackass Trevor posted a short video on it from SHOT bragging about it, and it shows him working the trigger without a mag. It acts the same way a trigger does when a manual safety is engaged, i.e, barely moves. I've seen the disconnect on M&Ps, and the trigger seems to move a lot more.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VoaL5Fd4X6k?feature=share
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Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Reply #158 on: January 21, 2025, 06:43:11 PM »
I was responding to Ben's post why CA approved models all have magazine disconnect.



Yes, I know. You were clear.  You quoted the blurb from the XR920 page about being "Born out of a custom request for Law Enforcement". The pistol they are talking about on that page is not the CA compliant one, as that pistol, and webpage, have been out for three years.

It might not be a true disconnect (note: I know nothing about them). Jackass Trevor posted a short video on it from SHOT bragging about it, and it shows him working the trigger without a mag. It acts the same way a trigger does when a manual safety is engaged, i.e, barely moves. I've seen the disconnect on M&Ps, and the trigger seems to move a lot more.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VoaL5Fd4X6k?feature=share
I wonder if they have some sort of vertical sliding lock on the trigger bar, that the mag moves.  I'd li,e to handle one and see, but not bad enough to set foot in Cali ;)

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« Reply #159 on: January 22, 2025, 05:01:11 AM »
Update to Pro-2A organizations efforts and accomplishments - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461443#msg1461443

GUN OWNERS OF AMERICA READY TO WORK WITH TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ON GUN PROMISES -  https://www.gunowners.org/gun-owners-of-america-ready-to-work-with-trump-administration-on-gun-promises/
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Washington, D.C. — Gun Owners of America (GOA) is ready to help President Trump execute his campaign promises to gun owners to restore gun rights and freedoms that were infringed upon by the Biden administration’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF). 

GOA applauds the promises made to gun owners by President Trump on the campaign trail:

- To rip up and throw out “all of those Biden disasters” by ATF in his first week;
- To reverse ATF rules including the Biden Pistol Brace Ban & Backdoor Registration Checks;
- To fire “anti-gun fanatic” ATF Director Steve Dettelbach—which already forced him to retire;
- To end the attack on the firearm industry by ATF’s “Zero Tolerance” policy; and
- To sign the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act into law when the GOA-backed bill reaches his desk.

In an address to GOA members at the Gun Owners Advocacy and Leadership Summit (GOALS) in August, 2024, President Trump also promised that he would “always listen to Gun Owners of America.”

Aidan Johnston, GOA’s Director of Federal Affairs, issued the following statement:

“For four years, President Biden weaponized the ATF against gun owners to initiate gun bans and illegal rules, so there is a lot to be done to restore the Second Amendment. GOA is ready to work with President Trump to protect and restore the Second Amendment and we are looking forward to the issuance of the firearm-related executive actions which he promised on the campaign trail.”
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« Reply #160 on: January 22, 2025, 05:21:59 AM »
Adding to Carry ban cases - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461485#msg1461485

Lara v Commissioner Pennsylvania State Police (PA 18-20 Carry ban) SAF/FPC press releases - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461147#msg1461147

SAF Director of Legal Operations, Bill Sack, on our latest victory in Lara v. Evanchick - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAa__ZozHeg


Mark Smith discuss the ruling - GREAT 2A WIN IN FEDERAL APPEALS COURT... The US Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit issued a powerful 2A victory for young Americans - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCw1NGAX1IY
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0:00 Great Breaking News! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCw1NGAX1IY&t=0s
1:58 Rahimi on History Methodology - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCw1NGAX1IY&t=118s
4:23 What Anti-Gun Judges Try To Argue... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCw1NGAX1IY&t=263s
7:25 This Really Helps Us... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCw1NGAX1IY&t=445s
10:40 Anti-Gun Arguments About 18-20 Y/Os - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCw1NGAX1IY&t=640s
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Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Reply #161 on: January 22, 2025, 06:34:13 AM »
Adding to Rahimi/Range (violent/nonviolent felon RKBA), OH state case and Drug user RKBA - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1460535#msg1460535

Merging state case Commonwealth of PA v Dontaie Anderson (PA nonviolent felon RKBA) with Rahimi/Range (violent/nonviolent felon RKBA), OH state case and Drug user RKBA - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1459075#msg1459075

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« Reply #162 on: January 22, 2025, 06:35:41 AM »
Next 4 years could be exciting years for Second Amendment and expansion of gun rights. =D

With David Warrington (NAGR Board Chairman, Chief Legal Counsel, and Day One Founder) appointed  as White House Counsel and Assistant to President Trump in charge of over 30 attorneys, anticipating many pro-2A development - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461806#msg1461806

Updated listing of 2A/ATF related cases - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461505#msg1461505

- 2A - Pro-2A organizations efforts and accomplishments - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462357#msg1462357
- 2A - AW/Magazine ban - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462272#msg1462272
- 2A - National carry reciprocity - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1460863#msg1460863
- 2A - Carry ban cases - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462358#msg1462358
- 2A - Significance of Bruen Methodology tested in Rahimi case (Harvard/Georgetown Journal of Law & Public Policy) - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1458590#msg1458590
- 2A - Bruen methodology applied to other cases - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1459075#msg1459075
- 2A - States defying Bruen - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1459189#msg1459189
- 2A - Gazzola v Hochul (NY CCIA affecting ammunition/FFLs/gun shops) - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1458404#msg1458404
- 2A - Rahimi/Range (violent/nonviolent felon RKBA), OH/PA state cases and Drug user RKBA - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462359#msg1462359
- 2A - Handgun Roster - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462252#msg1462252
- 2A - CA Handgun Roster (Pistols added after preliminary injunctions) - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461226#msg1461226
- 2A - Ammunition Restriction and Importation of arms/ammo - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461397#msg1461397
- 2A - Post Office Carry - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/fpc-saf-file-post-office-gun-ban-lawsuit.931523/
- 2A - B&L Productions v Newsom (CA gun show on state property) pending Supreme Court conference 1/24/25 - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1460871#msg1460871
- 2A - Elite Precision v ATF for tracking (Federal handgun transfer ban) - New FPC lawsuit challenging federal ban on interstate handgun sales - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462252#msg1462252
- ATF - Bump Stock - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1458134#msg1458134
- ATF - Pistol Brace - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461341#msg1461341
- ATF - 80% frame or receiver / "ghost gun" - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/17-states-join-goa-gof-and-sue-atf%E2%80%99s-new-firearms-rule-on-80-percent-kits.908730/post-12995558
- ATF - Forced Reset Trigger - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461595#msg1461595
- ATF - Efforts to abolish ATF/Repeal NFA/Hearing Protection Act - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462179#msg1462179

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Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Reply #163 on: January 22, 2025, 06:36:26 AM »
Adding to AW/Magazine Ban update - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462272#msg1462272

Second Amendment Foundation - https://x.com/2AFDN/status/1881748308462645412
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Snope v Brown our challenge to the Maryland Assault Weapons Ban has once again been relisted for conference before the Supreme Court, now for January 24th.

Fellow gun-case Ocean State Tactical was also relisted for the same day.

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« Reply #164 on: January 22, 2025, 09:02:39 AM »
Dogmush - Shadow Systems actually did a video on the mechanics. It's not a standard disconnect and it sounds like your guess was right.

https://youtu.be/ZSKVnj9Q5pc
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« Reply #165 on: January 22, 2025, 09:15:04 AM »
Dogmush - Shadow Systems actually did a video on the mechanics. It's not a standard disconnect and it sounds like your guess was right.

https://youtu.be/ZSKVnj9Q5pc

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« Reply #166 on: January 22, 2025, 09:19:41 AM »
Ben, You look younger and more...Asian then I expected.

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« Reply #167 on: January 22, 2025, 09:24:52 AM »
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« Reply #168 on: January 22, 2025, 06:59:42 PM »
Update to National carry reciprocity - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1460863#msg1460863

Update to Remove suppressor from NFA - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462179#msg1462179

The GOP's 2025 Gun Plans (Ft. Rep. Richard Hudson) | Full Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHWnGCqZTq0

"I like permitless carry ... First step is reciprocity ... the right place to start ... Constitutional carry should be law of the land ... We have a constitutional right to carry ... Second Amendment is clear ... driver's license from one state is recognized by other states ... last time, three Democrats voted for us and this time, there's one Democrat cosponsor ... President Trump campaigned on this issue ... We have a new leader in the Senate ... Democrats are representing Constitutional carry states ... I will be helping Rep. Cline reintroduce the suppressor bill ... to protect hearing ... reduce sound levels to 93 decibels"

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To do that, we have the man who has been at the center of their legislative efforts for years now. Representative Richard Hudson from North Carolina's Ninth District joins the show. He has sponsored most of the top-priority gun bills in recent years and just introduced a new version of national gun-carry reciprocity this year.

Rep. Hudson answers a series of questions on the details of the new bill and why he and his GOP colleagues decided to incorporate them. He also explains how he thinks it could get to President Donald Trump's desk, even though he admits that's a tall task. Then, he discusses other changes beyond the top-ticket items he and his colleagues plan to pursue.
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« Reply #169 on: January 22, 2025, 07:28:43 PM »
Update to AW/Magazine Ban - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462361#msg1462361

Bill To End State Gun Bans - A new bill would stop states from banning any firearm that isn't banned federally - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9kDON37AKI

Congresswoman Tenney Introduces the Second Amendment Guarantee Act to Defend New Yorkers 2A Rights - https://tenney.house.gov/media/press-releases/congresswoman-tenney-introduces-second-amendment-guarantee-act-defend-new

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Washington, DC – Congresswoman Claudia Tenney (NY-24) today introduced the Second Amendment Guarantee Act (SAGA) to ensure that states are prohibited from banning the manufacture, sale, importation, or possession of any rifle or shotgun that is lawfully permitted under federal law.

Additional cosponsors of this legislation include Representative Doug LaMalfa (CA-1) and Nick Langworthy (NY-23).

New York's SAFE Act, signed into law under disgraced former Governor Andrew Cuomo, prohibits law-abiding New Yorkers from purchasing, transferring, and owning certain firearms. If signed into law, this SAGA Act would nullify the SAFE Act and prevent New York and other states from passing unconstitutional gun bans.

"The Constitution clearly established our Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. The SAGA Act nullifies New York's unconstitutional SAFE Act and prevents other states from enacting laws that violate the Second Amendment. This legislation upholds our country's founding principle of protecting the rights of law-abiding Americans, even from liberal states with anti-gun policies," said Congresswoman Tenney.

"No matter how hard radical Democrats in Albany attempt to limit lawful gun ownership, the New York Congressional delegation will stand firm to protect law-abiding New Yorkers and manufacturers in protecting their constitutional rights. I am proud to join Rep. Tenney and my New York colleagues in Congress to ensure these rights ‘shall not be infringed, and I will never back down in my fight to protect the Second Amendment,” said Congressman Langworthy.

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« Reply #170 on: January 22, 2025, 07:44:14 PM »
Update to National carry reciprocity - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462523#msg1462523

"Chance of this passing both House and Senate ... Yes ... And 99% chance that President Trump will sign it"

CRPA: Will President Trump Push Through National Reciprocity? Rick Travis Joins us to discuss what HR 38 and SB 65 mean - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q4xgswkPHA

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01:03 - HR 38 and SB65 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q4xgswkPHA&t=63s
05:05 - What does these bills look like - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q4xgswkPHA&t=305s
11:45 - Does this make your CCW like a Drivers License - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q4xgswkPHA&t=705s
14:02 - Final thoughts - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q4xgswkPHA&t=842s

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Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Reply #171 on: January 23, 2025, 07:59:33 AM »
Live Life, is there a reason we don't have you on payroll? You certainly are earning it with all this work!

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« Reply #172 on: January 23, 2025, 10:55:05 AM »
Live Life, is there a reason we don't have you on payroll? You certainly are earning it with all this work!
No need for payroll. =D

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Over the decades, I have pursued hundreds of recipes cooking for my American wife of 30 years and if anyone is interested in them, I would readily share them like the cinnamon rolls I make for her - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70354.0

If anyone is interested in my 9mm reference load comparable to Winchester white box, I would readily share 115 gr FMJ with 4.8 gr of W231/HP-38 seated to 1.130"-1.135" and would point out that 4.5 gr would start to reliably cycle the slides of Glocks, especially with new recoil spring assemblies, and 4.6 gr would start to produce accuracy trend with 4.7/4.8 gr producing slightly smaller groups.

It is another reason why this Dillon/C-H fanboy chose to work with Lee Precision as beta/product tester to identify all pre/early production model issues of their flagship press (Six Pack Pro/Pro 6000 kit) to full resolution for reliable/self-cleaning operation because Lee Precision is one of last few reloading equipment manufacturer (Like C-H) who chose to manufacture ALL products in the USA with USA workers and I wanted to support them - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/lee-pro-6000-unboxing-and-testing-for-oal-consistency.911743/post-12890123

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« Reply #173 on: January 23, 2025, 03:04:07 PM »
Update to Carry ban cases - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462358#msg1462358

Mandate issued for May v Bonta (CA sensitive places carry ban) - https://michellawyers.com/may-et-al-v-bonta/

Kostas Moros - https://x.com/MorosKostas/status/1882500129279861208
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Mandate issued in May v. Bonta. CRPA or Chuck will explain soon why we ultimately decided against pursuing cert. (Short answer- faster final judgment).

Main change from prior status quo for now is that parks, libraries, and places that serve alcohol are now off limits. Plus some other places like stadiums, museums, and casinos, though those often banned carry by policy anyway.

Key parts of our injunction remain in effect, including the vampire rule.

Article discussing 9th Circuit injunction - https://www.donhammondlaw.com/blog/where-can-i-carry-a-gun-with-a-ca-ccw-license/

Injunction with quick overview - https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/23-4356/23-4356-2024-09-06.html

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Re: Second Amendment/ATF related cases
« Reply #174 on: January 23, 2025, 03:40:59 PM »
Update to efforts to abolish/eliminate ATF - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1462179#msg1462179

ATF agents reassigned to deport illegals won't be spending time harassing law abiding gun owner citizens. =D

TRUMP TO MAKE ATF AGENTS START DEPORTING ILLEGALS... President Trump Announces new agenda items for the ATF - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtZ4iiyHwgw

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0:00 Trump Sends ATF Agents To Begin Deportations - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtZ4iiyHwgw&t=0s
2:23 This Is Great For 2A... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtZ4iiyHwgw&t=143s
4:18 Illegal Immigration is Bad For 2A - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtZ4iiyHwgw&t=258s
7:10 Why Would We Want This? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtZ4iiyHwgw&t=430s
8:40 This Helps Us Destroy The ATF - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtZ4iiyHwgw&t=520s
11:24 1811 Special Agents - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtZ4iiyHwgw&t=684s