Kindergarten shooting

[WLJ]

What the heck is going on here?

Shooter shoots two kindergarten students at a private religious school in Palermo California before shooting himself. The man has no known connection to the school according to the article.
Considering the mood of certain segments of society right now this opens up all kinds of speculation. Does the fact the school is a religious one have anything to do with his motives?

Gunman shoots two kindergarten students at California religious school before turning weapon on himself
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14159139/police-active-shooter-feather-river-school-california.html

[Hawkmoon]

Sheesh!

School shootings are tragedies. IMHO there's no debate on that. With that established ... I really wish people could get a grip on reality. From the article linked by WLJ:

Laurie Trujillo, a spokesperson for the Northern California Conference of Seventh-Day Adventists, said in a statement that they were 'deeply saddened by the events that occurred today at our Feather River school.'

She added that they are grateful to the sheriff´s office for acting quickly to protect the students.

I want to know -- in detail -- exactly what the sheriff's office did to "protect the students." The shooter took himself out on the playground, most likely before the first deputy arrived on the scene. My guess is that all the deputies did was direct traffic and watch the kids board the bus that took them to the church.

Good grief! From a follow-up AP article:
https://apnews.com/article/butte-county-california-school-shooting-1a183fcd1670d47dedeff81d9f1ce492

It was the the latest among dozens of school shootings around the U.S. in recent years, including especially deadly ones in Newtown, Connecticut, Parkland, Florida, and Uvalde, Texas. The shootings have set off fervent gun control debates and frayed the nerves of parents whose children have grown accustomed to doing active shooter drills in their classrooms.

But the shootings have done little to move the needle on national gun laws. Firearms were the leading cause of death among children in 2020 and 2021, according to KFF, a nonprofit that researches health care issues.

I find that statistic VERY difficult to believe.

[Boomhauer]

Sheesh!

School shootings are tragedies. IMHO there's no debate on that. With that established ... I really wish people could get a grip on reality. From the article linked by WLJ:

I want to know -- in detail -- exactly what the sheriff's office did to "protect the students." The shooter took himself out on the playground, most likely before the first deputy arrived on the scene. My guess is that all the deputies did was direct traffic and watch the kids board the bus that took them to the church.

Good grief! From a follow-up AP article:
https://apnews.com/article/butte-county-california-school-shooting-1a183fcd1670d47dedeff81d9f1ce492

I find that statistic VERY difficult to believe.

Remember they include gangbangers in their late teens (near adults and adults) in their statistics, who incidentally are the very driving factors in deaths by firearm. Just like they include suicides as “gun violence” statistics. Considering the gangs recruit very young and you have 13 year old straight up hardened CRIMINALS running around strapped and gunning each other down it’s a handy means of inflating the numbers.

[dogmush]

The study mentioned uses "Children 1-17" as the demographic: https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/

They claim 2,571 deaths by Firearm in that demo.  They are noticeably silent on how many of that ~2500 are homicides.

[Bogie]

One of my customers got popped for a drive-by murder of a little girl last year. He's one of those 20-something bangers with the dead eyes you see...

[lee n. field]

. Firearms were the leading cause of death among children in 2020 and 2021, according to KFF, a nonprofit that researches health care issues.

I find that statistic VERY difficult to believe.

Children aren't (mostly) going to be dying of old people things.  What's left?  Violence of one kind or another.

[MechAg94]

The study mentioned uses "Children 1-17" as the demographic: https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/

They claim 2,571 deaths by Firearm in that demo.  They are noticeably silent on how many of that ~2500 are homicides.

The article refers to it more accurately as "child and teen" mortality rates. 

As might be expected, teenagers have higher firearm mortality rates than children. In the U.S., teens ages 18 and 19 have a firearm mortality rate of 25.2 per 100,000, compared to a rate of 3.7 per 100,000 for children ages 1-17 in the U.S. Even so, the child firearm mortality rate in the U.S. (3.7 per 100,000 people ages 1-17) is 5.5 times the child and teen mortality rate in Canada (0.6 per 100,000 people ages 1-19).

So if 18 and 19 years olds have a much higher mortality rate, what is the rate for 14 to 17 year olds?  Seems like an obvious question that should be answered by that statistics.  I am sure it doesn't fit the narrative though. 

[MechAg94]

Also, if you scroll down to Figure six in that article, you can see that firearms assaults are up as well as suicides with Assaults be the bigger increase.  So crime. 

The spike in 2020 and 2021 in child and teen firearm deaths in the U.S. was primarily driven by an increase in violent assault deaths. The child and teen firearm assault mortality rate reached a high in 2021 with a rate of 3.9 per 100,000, a 7% increase from the year before and a 50% increase from 2019. The firearm suicide mortality rate among children and teenagers in the U.S. increased 21% from 2019 to 2021.

[dogmush]

Also, if you scroll down to Figure six in that article, you can see that firearms assaults are up as well as suicides with Assaults be the bigger increase.  So crime.

True, also Figure 6 expanded the data set to ages 1-19, while the initial paragraph and table used 1-17.

I'm not by any means defending that article, it's twisting statistics.  I just provided the link, because it's the "study" mentioned in the OP link.

[WLJ]

He did it for Palestine

Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
BREAKING: Shooter at the Christian school in California has been identified as career criminal Glenn Litton, who allegedly wrote that he targeted the Christian children "in response to America’s involvement with genocide & oppression of Palestinians."

The two young victims, Roman Mendez and Elias Wolford, were both shot and are currently in the hospital in critical condition.

Please say a prayer for them.

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1865074844691251480

[WLJ]

More

Had been in and out of jail for some time and was just released from jail on Nov 21. Apparently also had another religious school in mind but switched targets.
And he used a "ghost" gun

Update on the kids

The two boys wounded in the attack have been identified as kindergartners named Elias and Roman.

Elias, 5, was shot through the chest and abdomen and remains in critical but stable condition.

“He is currently sedated and on a ventilator in PICU, awaiting additional surgery,” they added.

Roman — a 6-year-old with a twin brother — was also struck, and is also in critical but stable condition, according to his sister Vanessa, who wrote on Facebook that the boy is “showing incredible strength.”

“His recent surgeries have been successful, but he still has more to come and a challenging recovery ahead. We are grateful for the amazing medical team working tirelessly to help him heal,” she added.

 Mentally ill Calif. school shooter fired at kids as ‘countermeasure’ for US involvement in ‘genocide of Palestinians’: note
https://nypost.com/2024/12/05/us-news/mentally-ill-calif-school-shooter-shot-at-kids-as-countermeasure-for-us-involvement-in-genocide-of-palestinians-note/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

[dogmush]

I'm betting this one gets memory holed in a hurry.

[Hawkmoon]

I'm not by any means defending that article, it's twisting statistics.  I just provided the link, because it's the "study" mentioned in the OP link.

Understood.

I wasn't questioning you, but I do question the validity of the data behind the article. Remember -- "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."