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Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« on: December 12, 2024, 09:45:39 AM »
Biden Pardon Record: President Commutes 1,500 Sentences - Most Ever in a Day - https://www.newsweek.com/biden-commute-1500-sentences-largest-clemency-modern-us-history-1999647

"The move marks the largest single-day clemency action in modern U.S. history. The second largest clemency action was by Barack Obama when he issued 330 commutations"

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Now 1500 sentences were commuted, setting new record.

What message are we sending to the younger generations?

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2024, 09:53:34 AM »
Last I saw, there were 460 06JAN protestors in prison. That's a third of what Biden just commuted, and Biden isn't done yet. The left had better keep their traps shut when Trump pardons 1/3 the numbers that Biden did.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2024, 10:04:25 AM »
Trump had better pardon those 460 on his first day in office, NOT his *expletive deleted*ing last.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2024, 10:21:28 AM »
There are some "requirements" to receive presidential commutation/pardon - https://www.justice.gov/pardon/file/898541/dl

"Under the Department's rules governing petitions for executive clemency ... applicant must ... demonstrate an ability to lead a responsible, productive and law-abiding life ...

presidential pardon ... is granted in recognition of the applicant's acceptance of responsibility for the crime and established good conduct for a significant period of time after conviction or release from confinement. A pardon is not a sign of vindication and does not connote or establish innocence. For that reason, when considering the merits of a pardon petition, pardon officials take into account the petitioner's acceptance of responsibility, remorse, and atonement for the offense."

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2024, 10:32:06 AM »
I sort of wonder if this is a partial attempt to improve his image on the way out. 

Either way, I agree that there are likely more actions like this to come before he is out.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2024, 10:37:48 AM »
Were they Hunter's suppliers?
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2024, 10:58:11 AM »
At least now if the Loony Left gripes about J6 pardons, we can just point to Unky Joe's bulk purchase.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2024, 11:18:26 AM »
At least now if the Loony Left gripes about J6 pardons, we can just point to Unky Joe's bulk purchase.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2024, 12:00:03 PM »
What were they in for?

Kinda make a difference to my outrage level.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2024, 12:11:33 PM »
Supposedly one of them, a Chinese pedophile

https://x.com/BreannaMorello/status/1867253098521006422
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2024, 12:31:24 PM »
Supposedly another also Chinese but this time a spy.

https://x.com/BreannaMorello/status/1867259135118782540
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2024, 12:57:52 PM »
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Joe Biden has provided clemency to several convicted Chinese spies.

We’re digging into this and I’ll break it all down for you tonight at 7pm ET.
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https://x.com/BreannaMorello/status/1867261974448353785
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2024, 04:39:01 PM »
WLJ - both of the posts in your #10 & #11 posts aren't coming up, just the one in #9.  It puts up the blue "retry" button for both.  I have tried that as well as refreshing the page - without success.  :facepalm:
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2024, 04:39:59 PM »
WLJ - both of the posts in your #10 & #11 posts aren't coming up, just the one in #9.  It puts up the blue "retry" button for both.  I have tried that as well as refreshing the page - without success.  :facepalm:

Looks like both were taken down
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2024, 05:31:53 PM »
Supposedly ... Chinese ... spy ... pedophile

This one work?

https://x.com/akafacehots/status/1867252416359325713
Yikes!  I bet 1500 commuted cases are likely to get closer look now ...[popcorn]

I wonder how the applicants/petitioners "demonstrated ... remorse, and atonement for the offense"?

There are some "requirements" to receive presidential commutation/pardon - https://www.justice.gov/pardon/file/898541/dl

"applicant must ... demonstrate an ability to lead a responsible, productive and law-abiding life ...

petitioner's acceptance of responsibility, remorse, and atonement for the offense."

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2024, 04:29:37 AM »

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2024, 06:45:31 AM »
I'm seeing reports that the Chinese spies and child porn guy was a prisoner exchange with China. Not ideal, but as long as we got someone back better than Brittney Griner, I'm not too outraged.

The Newsweek article in the OP said that these were non-violent and drug offenders, who had been let out of pris9n dur8ng COVID and had been living at home since 2020, presumably not killing their fellow citizens.

I hate Biden more than most, but I'm not see8ng much here to get my panties in a wad.  From what I've seen of the Justice Department the last four years, I'm skeptical that ANY of their convictions are truly righteous.

Perhaps if he'd released a bunch of the folks that were burning down cities in 2020 I'd feel differ......Oh, wait.  They didn't go to jail in the first place.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2024, 07:54:33 AM »
I'm seeing reports that the Chinese spies and child porn guy was a prisoner exchange with China. Not ideal, but as long as we got someone back better than Brittney Griner, I'm not too outraged.

The Newsweek article in the OP said that these were non-violent and drug offenders, who had been let out of pris9n dur8ng COVID and had been living at home since 2020, presumably not killing their fellow citizens.

I hate Biden more than most, but I'm not see8ng much here to get my panties in a wad.  From what I've seen of the Justice Department the last four years, I'm skeptical that ANY of their convictions are truly righteous.

Perhaps if he'd released a bunch of the folks that were burning down cities in 2020 I'd feel differ......Oh, wait.  They didn't go to jail in the first place.

Why I wrote "supposedly" as I didn't fully trust the info and/or figured maybe something was left out.

If we got someone worthwhile in trade I won't have a problem with it but the Biden admin's record on that is not the greatest
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2024, 08:18:07 AM »
Trump had better pardon those 460 on his first day in office, NOT his *expletive deleted*ing last.

He's claimed he'll do it immediately; minutes after being sworn in.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2024, 09:22:58 AM »
Trump had better pardon those 460 on his first day in office, NOT his *expletive deleted*ing last.

There are more than a thousand people that need pardons, either because they were convicted, or because they took a shitty plea deal.

More than 1400 have been charged.

All of them need pardons/commutations/clemancy as appropriate.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/43-months-jan-6-attack-capitol#:~:text=Approximately%20944%20defendants%20have%20had,sentenced%20to%20periods%20of%20incarceration.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2024, 09:39:03 AM »
There are more than a thousand people that need pardons, either because they were convicted, or because they took a shitty plea deal.

More than 1400 have been charged.

All of them need pardons/commutations/clemancy as appropriate.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/43-months-jan-6-attack-capitol#:~:text=Approximately%20944%20defendants%20have%20had,sentenced%20to%20periods%20of%20incarceration.

I also submit that those who actually destroyed property, which should have led to some REASONABLE punishment, have more than paid for their crimes at this point were they REASONABLY  prosecuted (as opposed to the judge increasing jailtime over what the prosecution asked), so they absolutely should be freed as well with time more than served.

I'm still, even as a taxpayer, hoping for lots and lots of big lawsuits.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2024, 09:43:20 AM »
One of the commutations was Rita Crundwell. In 2013 she was sentenced to 20 years in prison. She was city comptroller for Dixon Illinois and stole over $53 MILLION DOLLARS 💵 from the city to fund her lavish lifestyle.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2024, 09:48:37 AM »
I also submit that those who actually destroyed property, which should have led to some REASONABLE punishment, have more than paid for their crimes at this point were they REASONABLY  prosecuted (as opposed to the judge increasing jailtime over what the prosecution asked), so they absolutely should be freed as well with time more than served.

I'm still, even as a taxpayer, hoping for lots and lots of big lawsuits.
Do we even know who those people are?  The only ones I heard about were a couple people who took stole stuff out of offices. 
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2024, 09:50:02 AM »
I'm seeing reports that the Chinese spies and child porn guy was a prisoner exchange with China. Not ideal, but as long as we got someone back better than Brittney Griner, I'm not too outraged.

The Newsweek article in the OP said that these were non-violent and drug offenders, who had been let out of pris9n dur8ng COVID and had been living at home since 2020, presumably not killing their fellow citizens.

I hate Biden more than most, but I'm not see8ng much here to get my panties in a wad.  From what I've seen of the Justice Department the last four years, I'm skeptical that ANY of their convictions are truly righteous.

Perhaps if he'd released a bunch of the folks that were burning down cities in 2020 I'd feel differ......Oh, wait.  They didn't go to jail in the first place.
It wouldn't shock me to learn there were a couple dozen people they wanted to give clemency to, but were concerned about the optics so they rolled them up with a 1000 or more other folks to hide them in the crowd. 
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