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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2024, 01:24:51 PM »
It wouldn't shock me to learn there were a couple dozen people they wanted to give clemency to, but were concerned about the optics so they rolled them up with a 1000 or more other folks to hide them in the crowd. 

A pretty good assumption.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2024, 02:24:24 PM »
He's claimed he'll do it immediately; minutes after being sworn in.

In 2016, he also claimed he was going to build a wall on our southern border and give us national carry reciprocity. Like anything coming out of Trump's mouth, I'll believe it when it happens.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2024, 02:53:44 PM »
Most of them are probably solid meh, or bs crimes. But I did see one was the kids for cash judge from PA. Only reason to let him out would be for a contact shot to the head in the middle of main street.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2024, 07:12:41 PM »
In 2016, he also claimed he was going to build a wall on our southern border and give us national carry reciprocity. Like anything coming out of Trump's mouth, I'll believe it when it happens.

Well. Congress wouldn't fully fund the wall and right now The Biden Admin is selling all the wall parts they can for pennies on the dollar that we taxpayers already bought. Same Biden admin just found another 1.5 billion to send to Ukraine to keep the war going and make it harder to be stopped.

I'm not a Trump fan but we need him in office ASAP.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2024, 11:50:19 PM »
One of the commutations was Rita Crundwell. In 2013 she was sentenced to 20 years in prison. She was city comptroller for Dixon Illinois and stole over $53 MILLION DOLLARS 💵 from the city to fund her lavish lifestyle.

She was released from prison back in 2021.  :facepalm:
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2024, 07:26:02 AM »
Well this is special...

One of Biden commutations was of Judge Michael Conahan.

Conahan was a Pennsylvania juvenile court judge who entered into a secret agreement with for profit juvenile facilies in which he essentially sold kids to the facility. For every kid he sentenced to the facility (resulting in hefty payments from the Commonwealth) he received a nice fat kickback.

He was one of two judges who was convicted for doing this.

Even the current governor of Pennsylvania, a Democrat who had been considered as Harris' VP running mate, decried the decision.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/13/politics/joe-biden-commutations-pennsylvania-illinois/index.html



Well, hopefully now that he's out of prison, some of the kids that he sold off like cattle can get to him and exact the kind of justice to which he should have been subject in the first place.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2024, 01:46:38 PM »
Well. Congress wouldn't fully fund the wall and right now The Biden Admin is selling all the wall parts they can for pennies on the dollar that we taxpayers already bought. Same Biden admin just found another 1.5 billion to send to Ukraine to keep the war going and make it harder to be stopped.

I'm not a Trump fan but we need him in office ASAP.

Yep. Too much unaccountable power in the lame duck period.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2024, 05:25:34 PM »
Well this is special...

One of Biden commutations was of Judge Michael Conahan.

Conahan was a Pennsylvania juvenile court judge who entered into a secret agreement with for profit juvenile facilies in which he essentially sold kids to the facility. For every kid he sentenced to the facility (resulting in hefty payments from the Commonwealth) he received a nice fat kickback.

He was one of two judges who was convicted for doing this.

Even the current governor of Pennsylvania, a Democrat who had been considered as Harris' VP running mate, decried the decision.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/13/politics/joe-biden-commutations-pennsylvania-illinois/index.html



Well, hopefully now that he's out of prison, some of the kids that he sold off like cattle can get to him and exact the kind of justice to which he should have been subject in the first place.

These two judges are as evil as it gets.  They violated their public trust and abused children (more of less( for money.  Deserved to die in prison.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2024, 08:02:32 PM »
Per the normal for the worst administration ever, lists were given to the interns by Dem groups and no one vetted anything.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2024, 08:48:34 PM »
Per the normal for the worst administration ever, lists were given to the interns by Dem groups and no one vetted anything.
There are some "requirements" to receive presidential commutation/pardon =) - https://www.justice.gov/pardon/file/898541/dl

"Under the Department's rules governing petitions for executive clemency ... applicant must ... demonstrate an ability to lead a responsible, productive and law-abiding life ...

presidential pardon ... is granted in recognition of the applicant's acceptance of responsibility for the crime and established good conduct for a significant period of time after conviction or release from confinement. A pardon is not a sign of vindication and does not connote or establish innocence. For that reason, when considering the merits of a pardon petition, pardon officials take into account the petitioner's acceptance of responsibility, remorse, and atonement for the offense."

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2024, 09:49:08 PM »
There are some "requirements" to receive presidential commutation/pardon =) - https://www.justice.gov/pardon/file/898541/dl

And I am absolutely sure those requirements were followed to the letter.  Or not.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2024, 09:13:45 AM »
It's a living requirement
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2024, 09:58:42 AM »
Can't speak to the truthfulness of this

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1868123908144267681
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Biden grants clemency to Indian-American woman, Meera Sachdeva, who defrauded cancer patients out of $8.2 million by diluting their chemo treatments.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2024, 10:00:57 AM »
^,^, WLJ: "It's a living requirement."

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2024, 01:19:48 PM »
Can't speak to the truthfulness of this

https://x.com/AFpost/status/1868123908144267681

It looks like the Indian Express has picked up on it. She was one of four granted clemency.

https://indianexpress.com/article/news-today/biden-issues-clemency-to-four-indian-americans-9722569/

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2024, 01:27:23 PM »
So, upon further consideration the Kids for cash judges, and the diluted cancer treatment lady do actually piss me off.  Those aholes tangibly hurt people, in some cases resulting in the death of the victim.  They should have rotted in jail.

The fact that some of them were living at home under "house arrest" for three years because of Covid is a separate issue, that also pisses me off.

Meera Sachdeva had better hope that no one who died of cancer has a family member that has a 3D printer, if you know what I mean.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2024, 01:37:33 PM »
So, upon further consideration the Kids for cash judges, and the diluted cancer treatment lady do actually piss me off.  Those aholes tangibly hurt people, in some cases resulting in the death of the victim.  They should have rotted in jail.

The fact that some of them were living at home under "house arrest" for three years because of Covid is a separate issue, that also pisses me off.

Meera Sachdeva had better hope that no one who died of cancer has a family member that has a 3D printer, if you know what I mean.

I have to concur with this line of thinking.

I think as the list continues to be combed through there will be a lot more people who should still be rotting in jail making the clemency list.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2024, 02:50:26 PM »
There is also a lady that was running a fentanyl ring that was getting people killed on the list. Can't remember her name right now.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2024, 03:08:53 PM »
Well, let's face it.  Biden et alia  may be setting precedent for Trump WRT J6 and other Political Prisoners.

Nor sure how, but it seems to me there's hay to be made of it.

The scales of Justice need some lube at their fulcrum.

                         

Are there specific penalties associated with violating the pardon / clemency rules?

Can Trump "set aside"  the pardons and clemency grants for violation of those rules?

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2024, 03:22:48 PM »
I bet more digging into that list will turn up plenty of absolute shitbags who belong either in a cell or a hole, definitely not worthy of a pardon
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2024, 04:11:24 PM »
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2024, 07:22:39 AM »
The Dark Lord Sauron issues pre-emptive pardon to Biden.

Biden recognizes pre-emptive pardon as a license to kill.

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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2024, 11:53:05 PM »
Meera Sachdeva had better hope that no one who died of cancer has a family member that has a 3D printer, if you know what I mean.

The same could be said for embezzler Rita Crundell.
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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2024, 11:23:15 AM »
Yikes! I'm willing to wait for extra verification of these numbers, because they are unbelievable. If true, I guess this is what happens when the president is basically Captain Pike in the chair, and the GenZ Soros staff are running the country.



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Re: Biden sets new record for commuting 1500 sentences
« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2024, 11:42:05 AM »
TDM is reporting Biden is considering commuting the sentences of many if not all federal death row inmates

Child murderers and rapists could be spared death penalty under plans drawn up for one of Biden's final acts
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14215999/death-row-inmates-Joe-Biden-commute-sentence.html
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