Second Amendment/ATF related issues (Discussion thread)

[Live Life]

Our fight against anti-2A organizations may have just gotten easier ... 

"NAGR: It looks damning at first blush—we're digging deeper. Stay tuned."

And NAGR founder David Warrington is now Chief Counsel for White House and Assistant to President Trump. 

Hannah Hill - https://x.com/hannahhill_sc/status/1886852900363846017

Hey @elonmusk, could we get a @DOGE review of the slush fund for states to create and implement red flag "gun confiscation"- adjacent programs?

DataRepublican (small r) - https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/1887191624750670294

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National Association for Gun Rights - https://x.com/NatlGunRights/status/1887283604990144520

👀 Yesterday, @hannahhill_sc exposed taxpayer money flowing to Bloomberg gun control orgs.

Today, @DataRepublican's tool helped 2A advocates link USAID funds to Everytown, Giffords & more.

It looks damning at first blush—we're digging deeper. Stay tuned.

[Live Life]

Here we go ... Elon just reposted this - https://x.com/elonmusk

I wonder how much protection and expansion this will apply to "modern" types of arms and accessories ... Should be on par with "modern" forms of communication for First Amendment. 

Autism Capital 🧩 - https://x.com/AutismCapital/status/1887999958491770981

🚨BREAKING: Trump signs an Executive Order to protect and expand Second Amendment rights for Americans. The order calls for the Attorney General to undo hostile changes made by the Biden administration and also make future recommendations to strengthen American's rights.

Firearms Policy Coalition - https://x.com/gunpolicy/status/1887996138240057780

President Trump has ordered the Attorney General to, within the next 30 days, identify any ongoing Second Amendment infringements in the orders, regulations, and legal positions taken by the Biden Administration, and to propose a plan for rectifying them:

[Live Life]

And the Executive Order 👍👍👍 - https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/protecting-second-amendment-rights/

Protecting Second Amendment Rights
EXECUTIVE ORDER
February 7, 2025

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered:

     Section 1.  Purpose.  The Second Amendment is an indispensable safeguard of security and liberty.  It has preserved the right of the American people to protect ourselves, our families, and our freedoms since the founding of our great Nation.  Because it is foundational to maintaining all other rights held by Americans, the right to keep and bear arms must not be infringed.

     Sec. 2.  Plan of Action.  (a)  Within 30 days of the date of this order, the Attorney General shall examine all orders, regulations, guidance, plans, international agreements, and other actions of executive departments and agencies (agencies) to assess any ongoing infringements of the Second Amendment rights of our citizens, and present a proposed plan of action to the President, through the Domestic Policy Advisor, to protect the Second Amendment rights of all Americans.
     (b)  In developing such proposed plan of action, the Attorney General shall review, at a minimum:
          (i)    All Presidential and agencies’ actions from January 2021 through January 2025 that purport to promote safety but may have impinged on the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens;
          (ii)   Rules promulgated by the Department of Justice, including by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, from January 2021 through January 2025 pertaining to firearms and/or Federal firearms licensees;
          (iii)  Agencies’ plans, orders, and actions regarding the so-called “enhanced regulatory enforcement policy” pertaining to firearms and/or Federal firearms licensees;
          (iv)   Reports and related documents issued by the White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention;
          (v)    The positions taken by the United States in any and all ongoing and potential litigation that affects or could affect the ability of Americans to exercise their Second Amendment rights;
          (vi)   Agencies’ classifications of firearms and ammunition; and
          (vii)  The processing of applications to make, manufacture, transfer, or export firearms.

     Sec. 3.  Implementation.  Upon submission of the proposed plan of action described in section 2 of this order, the Attorney General shall work with the Domestic Policy Advisor to finalize the plan of action and establish a process for implementation.

     Sec. 4.  General Provisions.  (a)  Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
          (i)   the authority granted by law to an executive department, agency, or the head thereof; or
          (ii)  the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
     (b)  This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.
     (c)  This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

[JN01]

It's a good start.

[Live Life]

And the Executive Order 👍👍👍 - https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/protecting-second-amendment-rights/

It's a good start.

After decades of relentless (And well funded) work, I think the antis anticipated Harris win in 2024 with disarming of gun owners while treating them as second class citizens.

Instead, 2025 with Trump win, Republican majority in House/Senate/Supreme Court and EO on Second Amendment with efforts to dismantle ATF/NFA nightmare situation is not what antis likely imagined.

I am looking forward to building and shooting suppressed "standard" magazine fed braced pistols in CA real soon with perhaps forced reset triggers while carrying it most everywhere.

For some reason, my morning coffee seems to taste better these days ...

[Hawkmoon]

It's a good start.

No, it's not. It's limited to Biden administration actions. Many of the federal laws and regulations that plague gun owners date to long before Biden took office. This is as much to poke another stick in Biden's eye as it is to help gun owners -- probably more so.

[Live Life]

It's limited to Biden administration actions

That's not how I read the EO.

"Sec. 2.  Plan of Action ... AG shall examine all orders, regulations, guidance, plans, international agreements, and other actions of executive departments and agencies to assess any ongoing infringements of the Second Amendment rights of our citizens ...

     (b)  In developing such proposed plan of action, the AG shall review, at a minimum"

EO clearly states AG "examine all ... any ongoing infringements" and "at a minimum".  So there's no upper limit on what AG can examine/assess if they actively infringe on 2A.

[JN01]

(review) the positions taken by the United States in any and all ongoing and potential litigation that affects or could affect the ability of Americans to exercise their Second Amendment rights;

This could be good if they drop out or reverse course on some of the litigation.

[Live Life]

Now do all other states with waiting period.

Larry Keane - https://x.com/lkeane/status/1890060992627011730

A federal court judge in Maine just issued a preliminary injunction against the state's 72 hour waiting period law on #2A grounds @NSSF #NSSF #2A

Mark W. Smith - https://x.com/fourboxesdiner/status/1890083695811530915

2A Fantastic News

[Live Life]

Snope and Ocean State Tactical cases have been relisted for 2/21 conference - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1465730#msg1465730

I am still hopeful but thinking if Supreme Court wanted to deny AW/Magazine ban this term, they would have done so already?

I guess we get to find out what happens after 2/21 conference ...

[Live Life]

My sentient for Trump's Second Amendment EO and 2A prospect for 2028 are pretty good  👍

[Live Life]

I am still hopeful but thinking if Supreme Court wanted to deny AW/Magazine ban this term, they would have done so already?

I guess we get to find out what happens after 2/21 conference ...

Hoping .. Hoping ... Hoping ...

SAF/Adam Kraut - https://x.com/theadamkraut/status/1892619809122140663

Just a reminder that tomorrow @2AFDN's challenge to Marylands AWB goes back to conference at the Supreme Court.

Hopefully we get good news!

[Live Life]

I guess we get to find out what happens after 2/21 conference ...

Adam Kraut - ... tomorrow @2AFDN's challenge to Marylands AWB goes back to conference at the Supreme Court.

I guess we wait for Monday ...

Kostas Moros - https://x.com/MorosKostas/status/1893106689068671019

I suspect we'll have a decision on Snope on Monday morning. If the reasoning was they want to grant it, but not hear it til next term, then now they can do so. Cases granted from here on out are generally heard next term.

If it's no news or a denial, they were just torturing us for no reason I guess.

[Ben]

Unconfirmed, but Mrgunsngear is reporting that Trump has appointed Kash Patel as Interim ATF Director.

https://youtu.be/1Ai8UzZIdwM

I suppose that's something that someone who planned to dismantle the ATF might do, were they to roll some ATF stuff into the FBI. Though I'm not sure if I want the FBI involved with gun laws four or eight years from now.

[Live Life]

Unconfirmed, but Mrgunsngear is reporting that Trump has appointed Kash Patel as Interim ATF Director.

I suppose that's something that someone who planned to dismantle the ATF might do, were they to roll some ATF stuff into the FBI. Though I'm not sure if I want the FBI involved with gun laws four or eight years from now.

Nice development that could really change the future of 2A enforcement/application.

But ATF should be dismantled AFTER all the current litigations and "interpretations/rules" were properly settled and clarified so only "administrative" work is left instead of "enforcement".

Time to make a lot more popcorn. 

[Live Life]

Unconfirmed, but Mrgunsngear is reporting that Trump has appointed Kash Patel as Interim ATF Director.

ABC and CBS just confirmed Patel will be sworn in as acting director of ATF next week - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1466714#msg1466714

President Donald Trump is expected to name FBI Director Kash Patel as the acting head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives ...

A Justice Department official told ABC News that Patel is expected to be sworn in as acting director early next week

We are going to need a really BIG bag of popcorn ... 

[Live Life]

President Trump is expected to name FBI Director Kash Patel as the acting head of the ATF

I wonder if FBI director is also being appointed as acting director of ATF because ATF is anticipated to be dismantled and related enforcement will be shifted to FBI?

If so, this is going to get crazy.

[Live Life]

Mark Smith, constitutional attorney and part of Trump transition team for first term and former Trump media surrogate discuss Kash Patel working as FBI director and acting ATF director.

Mark Smith - https://x.com/fourboxesdiner/status/1893475083374440613

Kash Patel to become acting director of the ATF, which is allowed under the PLUM BOOK. We discussed the importance of understanding the details of the federal PLUM BOOK in this Four Boxes Diner video last month - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHY8YbSIdk

0:00 Presidential Transition Team & How They Work... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHY8YbSIdk&t=0s
2:06 How This Used To Work & 9/11 Changes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHY8YbSIdk&t=126s
5:15 Presidential Transition Act - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHY8YbSIdk&t=315s
6:40 How This Worked in 2016... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHY8YbSIdk&t=400s
9:03 How This Worked Now in 2024 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHY8YbSIdk&t=543s
11:23 The Plum Book & Why It's So Important - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHY8YbSIdk&t=683s
14:40 What 2A Supporters Should Care About - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHY8YbSIdk&t=880s

[Live Life]

Mark Smith posted he will release video on Sunday explaining how FBI director can be acting ATF director also.

Mark W. Smith - https://x.com/fourboxesdiner/status/1893513095592493450

Kash Patel & ATF. I have a video ready re how Patel can be FBI Director & also acting ATF Director. Releasing video on Four Boxes Diner channel tomorrow (Sunday) morning

[Live Life]

Kash Patel working as FBI director and acting ATF director.

President Trump just named Dan Bongino as FBI deputy director - https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1466844#msg1466844

Donald J. Trump - https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114056317037035302

Great news for Law Enforcement and American Justice! Dan Bongino ... just been named the next DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE FBI ... Working with our great new United States Attorney General, Pam Bondi, and Director Patel, Fairness, Justice, Law and Order will be brought back to America, and quickly. Congratulations Dan!

Dan Bongino - https://x.com/dbongino/status/1893839865864745168

Thank you Mr. President, Attorney General Bondi, and Director Patel.

This is going to ruffle some feathers.

[Live Life]

Holy smokes! 

Benny Johnson - https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1893854114708156551

🔥🔥THROWBACK: Newly appointed Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino going full savage calling to axe every last fed involved in the Mar-a-Lago raid:

“If you took part in this, I don't care who you are… the next president should and fire every person involved in this ...

You swore an oath to the Constitution, have some balls man!”

[Live Life]

Dismantling of ATF ... Donald Trump and Pam Bondi want to have Kash Patel running the FBI ... and have him function as acting director of the ATF

GOA reposted this and I agree.  Really looking forward to DOJ/AG report due 30 days after Trump EO as to what they plan on doing.

Aidan Johnston @RealGunLobbyist - https://x.com/RealGunLobbyist/status/1894192253632987556

There is literally no point in “abolishing the ATF” if it only means 5,000+ employees change the letters on their windbreakers from ATF to FBI.

We have to repeal all federal infringements AND THEN eliminate this rogue federal agency.

[Live Life]

Won't it be funny if Brandon Herrera is named deputy director of ATF? 

The New ATF Director Has Been Chosen - https://t.co/zCCc8sAQ48

- I can tell you that Kash was my dream pick for director of the FBI
- We also got an announcement that Dan Bongino was just selected as deputy director of the FBI
- With Kash and Bongino running the show, I'm hoping to get some solid policy changes just in the next couple months
- Granted there's a lot of work on the back end that has to be done with this ... but from what I'm being told the gun community's wish list is being taken in very serious consideration
- Now circling back as for my trip to DC ... it was a very productive trip to both the White House and the Pentagon
- The Pentagon trip was actually for the unsubscribed podcast we were actually given permission to film a podcast in the production room of the Pentagon which is insane to me cuz that's not really a
place a lot of people are allowed to go.  On top of that, they let us interview a bunch of high ranking folks
- Now on to the White House, I'm kind of in this weird place where I'm not really sure what I am and what I'm not allowed to talk about so I'll just keep this pretty brief
- It was incredible to feel the energy of the meetings and the people that are just even in the hallways ... means business
- Pretty much everybody I know within the administration has told me in one way or the other that term one Trump and term two Trump are radically different people
- I can tell you this ... if the team Trump has around him now can accomplish even a third of some of the things I've heard tossed around, this might be one of the most Pro Second Amendment administrations in the last century
- There's a lot of damage to undo but there's a lot of people there willing to do it as with all things politics you know
- Only time will tell but I can tell you this ... I came home with a lot more hope than I have felt in a
long time
- I always said you need to gut the parts of the ATF that make no sense and then some of the legitimate stuff like the arso investigations, the cartel operations like the real ones
- Seems like a pretty good start that the director of the FBI is now head of the ATF

[Live Life]

This is an interesting development ... 

While Kash Patel was appointed as "acting" director of ATF, Texas Gun Rights is reporting Dan O'Kelly is being considered for "permanent" director of ATF.

Dan O’Kelly will soon Replace Kash as ATF Director? - https://txgunrights.org/dan-okelly-will-soon-replace-kash-as-atf-director/

... Kash Patel was named acting director of the ATF ... Patel’s appointment was seen as a step in the right direction, given his history of challenging deep-state bureaucracies and his strong support for constitutional governance. However, his tenure is expected to be temporary, with reports indicating that Dan O’Kelly is being considered as his permanent replacement in the near future.

Here's VSO Gun Channel talking about this latest development.

ALERT: Dan O'Kelly For ATF Director? Former ATF agent Dan O'Kelly has been fielded to replace Kash Patel as director of the ATF. I have mixed feelings about this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ4uNxthkF4

[Live Life]

While Kash Patel was appointed as "acting" director of ATF, Texas Gun Rights is reporting Dan O'Kelly is being considered for "permanent" director of ATF.

I am not seeing anything following this.  Maybe it was just a "consideration"?