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The Great 2025 Tariff War
« on: February 03, 2025, 11:39:51 AM »
Figured this has become a big enough news item to deserve it's own thread

To start

Looks like they're trying to start the narrative tariffs triggered the great depression.
Some of the comments go even further claiming this is the plan.

https://x.com/TristanSnell/status/1886192090490548283
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2025, 11:40:51 AM »
Meanwhile it appears Mexico may have blinked

https://x.com/catturd2/status/1886442225896231298
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2025, 11:45:33 AM »
Looks like he was catching so much heat that he shut down commenting.

Not surprising.

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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2025, 12:00:52 PM »
Of course MSNBC and CNN are making it sound like Trump bent the knee to Mexico.  ;/
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2025, 12:41:56 PM »
Quote from: Ben on February 03, 2025, 12:00:52 PM
Of course MSNBC and CNN are making it sound like Trump bent the knee to Mexico.  ;/

Next twist will be giving credit to Chuck and Nancy
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2025, 12:47:13 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on February 03, 2025, 11:40:51 AM
Meanwhile it appears Mexico may have blinked

https://x.com/catturd2/status/1886442225896231298


Saw that this morning.   Gee, imagine that.  Tariffs can be used for more than just economics..... Whodathunkit.
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2025, 12:48:39 PM »
Quote from: AmbulanceDriver on February 03, 2025, 12:47:13 PM
Saw that this morning.   Gee, imagine that.  Tariffs can be used for more than just economics..... Whodathunkit.

None of us knew this because Trump has never been President before. It's all new territory, man!
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2025, 12:56:24 PM »
Got to wonder if this is related considering the timing.

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🚨BREAKING: Mexican authorities have captured and detained the leader of Cartel del Noreste, "El Ricky.”

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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2025, 01:15:00 PM »
Just guessing, and this will never make the press release...
 
"And Claudia, I know those cartel "leaders" - and they are some of the very worst leaders possible - have been a real pain for you. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours, and loan you some of our guys to take them out, because you know that our guys are the best ever - maybe even better than that. Deal?"
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2025, 02:10:39 PM »
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🚨🇨🇦ONTARIO CANCELS $100M STARLINK DEAL AS TRUMP’S 25% TARIFFS LOOM

Premier Doug Ford announced Ontario is scrapping its $100 million contract with Starlink ahead of Trump’s incoming tariffs on US goods.

Ford’s government is also banning other American companies from provincial contracts in response to the trade measures.

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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1886470966445854738
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2025, 02:33:12 PM »
More from Ford

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NEW: Ontario Premier Doug Ford announces the removal of all American products from LCBO shelves in retaliation to President Trump’s tariffs, urging support for Canadian-made alternatives.

https://x.com/ResisttheMS/status/1886464218796290337
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2025, 02:46:09 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on February 03, 2025, 11:39:51 AM
Figured this has become a big enough news item to deserve it's own thread

To start

Looks like they're trying to start the narrative tariffs triggered the great depression.
Some of the comments go even further claiming this is the plan.

https://x.com/TristanSnell/status/1886192090490548283

Uh, wasn't the "start" of the Depression the October, '29, market crash?
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2025, 03:33:30 PM »
Quote from: JTHunter on February 03, 2025, 02:46:09 PM
Uh, wasn't the "start" of the Depression the October, '29, market crash?

Yep
Big part of why it's so stupid
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2025, 03:45:25 PM »
Quote from: WLJ on February 03, 2025, 02:33:12 PM
More from Ford

https://x.com/ResisttheMS/status/1886464218796290337

Maybe now they will quit running those TV ads on how Ontario is such a needed trade partner to the US because they don't seem to have worked. That will save them a buck or two.

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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2025, 03:50:53 PM »
Quote from: Ben on February 03, 2025, 12:48:39 PM
None of us knew this because Trump has never been President before. It's all new territory, man!
Yeah, it should be obvious even to them that Trump's initial comments/actions are usually just the start of negotiations. 
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2025, 04:30:10 PM »
Why are we starting a trade war with our biggest trade partners again? How is it making America great? What is the rationale ? And above all...why Canada and Mexico?
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2025, 04:41:45 PM »
Quote from: zahc on February 03, 2025, 04:30:10 PM
Why are we starting a trade war with our biggest trade partners again? How is it making America great? What is the rationale ? And above all...why Canada and Mexico?
It appears to be an aggressive and apparently reasonably successful opening move for Trump to negotiate better deals from.
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2025, 04:55:28 PM »
Quote from: zahc on February 03, 2025, 04:30:10 PM
And above all...why Canada and Mexico?

Because they're commie pinkos.
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2025, 04:58:11 PM »
Quote from: zahc on February 03, 2025, 04:30:10 PM
Why are we starting a trade war with our biggest trade partners again? How is it making America great? What is the rationale ? And above all...why Canada and Mexico?


ummmm he literally said why on Social Media.  You don't have to even listen to a network talking head.   Canada and Mexico have policies of border neglect (or worse) that is facilitating human and drug trafficking across our borders.  We would like that to stop.  https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1885821495080825305

Also in the time it took me to scroll to find that link, Trudeau caved as well.  https://x.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1886529228193022429

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I just had a good call with President Trump. Canada is implementing our $1.3 billion border plan — reinforcing the border with new choppers, technology and personnel, enhanced coordination with our American partners, and increased resources to stop the flow of fentanyl. Nearly 10,000 frontline personnel are and will be working on protecting the border.
 
In addition, Canada is making new commitments to appoint a Fentanyl Czar, we will list cartels as terrorists, ensure 24/7 eyes on the border, launch a Canada- U.S. Joint Strike Force to combat organized crime, fentanyl and money laundering. I have also signed a new intelligence directive on organized crime and fentanyl and we will be backing it with $200 million.
 
Proposed tariffs will be paused for at least 30 days while we work together.

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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2025, 05:00:33 PM »
Because even your best allies may need a kick to the nuts once in awhile as a reminder to do their f'ing jobs
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2025, 05:01:39 PM »
Quote from: dogmush on February 03, 2025, 04:58:11 PM
Also in the time it took me to scroll to find that link, Trudeau caved as well.  https://x.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1886529228193022429

Winning. Plus this means that by the time I get to Costco, the morons will have stopped buying 100 jugs each of the maple syrup, so I can get a couple of jugs.
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2025, 05:41:32 PM »
Quote from: Ben on February 03, 2025, 05:01:39 PM
Winning. Plus this means that by the time I get to Costco, the morons will have stopped buying 100 jugs each of the maple syrup, so I can get a couple of jugs.
Ha!  I actually lay out the vacuum lines for my maple sugaring yesterday.  Wasn't thinking about Canada at all at the time, but I guess I was doing my part to insulate us from the Canadian tariffs.
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2025, 05:52:59 PM »
Quote from: Ben on February 03, 2025, 05:01:39 PM
Winning. Plus this means that by the time I get to Costco, the morons will have stopped buying 100 jugs each of the maple syrup, so I can get a couple of jugs.

Hopefully but once a panic starts it's hard to stop
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2025, 06:14:23 PM »
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Re: The Great 2025 Tariff War
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2025, 06:44:16 PM »
Quote from: cordex on February 03, 2025, 05:41:32 PM
Ha!  I actually lay out the vacuum lines for my maple sugaring yesterday.  Wasn't thinking about Canada at all at the time, but I guess I was doing my part to insulate us from the Canadian tariffs.

You need to sell it!  American syrup grown and harvested by Americans!
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