SBRs shipped to your house.

[dogmush]

PSA is out here doing the gods work.

Thy have partnered with Capital Armory to sell suppressors shipped direct the the CA system, which is cool, but since PSA sells other NFA items those fall under the umbrella of Tax Stamp, digital 4473, home delivery process.

So you can have an SBR shipped to you at home now.

https://x.com/palmettoarmory/status/1896668443488969114?t=EoT3ni-U-C9j35i02aI7mA&s=19

Kinda awesome.

I have done the CA process 3 or 4 times now, and it's pretty painless. 

[Bogie]

The can I bought a few months ago took about an hour in the store for prints, etc., and about four days to make it into the store.

[MechAg94]

I have bought one suppressor from CA.  The whole process took about a month.  About a week for me to get my fingerprint file and submit to start the process (not needed next time).  The shipping process took a couple weeks, but that may have been how it hit the weekends since the QAQC checks and internal approvals happen on weekdays.  Pretty easy overall. 

The last one I bought through Silencer Shop was only slightly different.  I still had to do a live session with my dealer to answer the 4473 questions, certify the form, and watch my dealer do the same.  Shipping to my dealer took a week to 10 days.  Only difference is I pick it up from my dealer instead of waiting for it to ship which shaves off the shipping time. 

In the future, I guess it will depend on who has what I want and at what price. 

[Bogie]

Some of those outfits are making serious money... Figure about $100 worth of materials, $100 worth of CNC time, and a $200 mfg stamp, and sells for $800+.

[Ben]

I've not done one of these "ship to the house" deals yet, but I think I will give this a try. I've been reading a lot of "great bang for the buck" stuff about the Polonium, and for the price, have been thinking of adding one to the collection.

[dogmush]

There is a step where they have to inform your CLEO via certified mail and wait 7 days before they ship.  In the before times that wasn't that big of a deal in a 16 month long process.  In these days of 72hr Form 4s it can be kind of annoying.  That's the only real downside.

I have done this process on my Griffin cans, because Griffin has a 30% .mil discount that beats distributor cost to most dealers.  Also the local SOTs to me (after my favorite closed) hit me up for $100 transfer fee if I don't buy from them, so in my case the "to your door" thing is like a week longer and several hundred dollars cheaper.

If a local guy has what you want in stock, I'd go that route, even as much as I cheer lead CA (and now PSA) for helping get NFA items in common use.  Quicker, probably close to the same price, and supports the local guy.  All good things.  If your local SOT is a scalper, or doesn't have a good stock (so you gotta wait for a Form 3, then a Form 4), That's when I'd start looking online. 

Once you've done the CA process the first time, they have your pic and prints, so it gets even easier to impulse purchase NFA items. That may or may not be a good thing.  PSA has gotten me in the past with daily deal impulse purchases.

[Ben]

Well, I lost my LGS and am still on the hunt for a new one that's a good fit for me. I do like giving business to the local guys as long as they are not, as you say, scalpers. I have only bought one can since the ATF speed up, and I had that stamp in like 1.75 days, so that's certainly a point in favor of local vs mail order under current conditions. I was mostly thinking of doing the mail order thing at least once mostly just to have my info on record with at least one "to your door" place.

How do you like the Griffin cans? I was looking at those back when I bought the parts from them that you had recommended. I've also been researching Yankee Hill Machine.

[MechAg94]

There is a step where they have to inform your CLEO via certified mail and wait 7 days before they ship.  In the before times that wasn't that big of a deal in a 16 month long process.  In these days of 72hr Form 4s it can be kind of annoying.  That's the only real downside.

I have done this process on my Griffin cans, because Griffin has a 30% .mil discount that beats distributor cost to most dealers.  Also the local SOTs to me (after my favorite closed) hit me up for $100 transfer fee if I don't buy from them, so in my case the "to your door" thing is like a week longer and several hundred dollars cheaper.

If a local guy has what you want in stock, I'd go that route, even as much as I cheer lead CA (and now PSA) for helping get NFA items in common use.  Quicker, probably close to the same price, and supports the local guy.  All good things.  If your local SOT is a scalper, or doesn't have a good stock (so you gotta wait for a Form 3, then a Form 4), That's when I'd start looking online. 

Once you've done the CA process the first time, they have your pic and prints, so it gets even easier to impulse purchase NFA items. That may or may not be a good thing.  PSA has gotten me in the past with daily deal impulse purchases.

Thanks for mentioning the CLEO notification.  That is why the shipping time was 2 weeks.  They had to wait for the notification to arrive at the destination before they shipped the can.  I forgot about that detail.

The Dead Air can you mentioned above I will keep in mind.  It isn't that expensive.  There are a number of brands like Dead Air and Griffin I have zero experience with. 

[dogmush]

How do you like the Griffin cans? I was looking at those back when I bought the parts from them that you had recommended. I've also been researching Yankee Hill Machine.

Did you not watch my video?   

I like them.  I have....4 I think.  (I'm TDY and can't count right now).  Two Dual-Loc (one normal and one PSR Over the Barrel), a .22 can, and one of the more basic Recce 5.56 cans.

The Taper mount is your basic K baffle 5.56 can.  Good build. On a par with the Pulonium, maybe a bit better.  Definatly better than a Rugged Razor.  My cost was $486.

The .22 I like, but I don't have a lot of rounds through it.  It is wipe compatible and super quiet.

The gems are the Dual-Locs though. The "ECO-Flow" baffles are (IMO) a really good split between a true flow through and a normal baffle.  Like midway between an RC2 and a Flow 5.56 on flash, heat, backpressure, all that stuff.  *very* quiet at the muzzle and in front.  Louder than a Huxwrx at the ear due to port noise.  Just a really good versatile can.  My cost is $751 for the normal and $836 for the PSR.  The PSR on an 18" rifle gassed SPR with 77gr is whispering death.  I put a GoPro down range and at 750yds you can't hear the gun.  Just a crack as the bullet gets there and the ding of the plate.

[Ben]

Did you not watch my video?   

I'm sure I did, but I'm an old man and I get confused. 

[cordex]

I'm sure I did, but I'm an old man and I get confused. 

At 30?  Life comes at you fast, I guess.

[Bogie]

My little Sig can is furly quiet, but... Can one legally mod/add stuff? Considering taking out one of the k-baffles, and putting in a series of wipes... I never looked at that sort of thing before...

[dogmush]

Conventional wisdom is No, you can't mod a can.  BATFE considers suppressor "parts" to be suppressors in and of themselves.

So you could probably take out a baffle safely, as that part is already part of the can you have, and is registered.  Wipes, specifically, have been considered parts that need registration, so you could not make a wipe and install it without doing a form 1 and paying the tax on the wipe.  There is some evidence that you can make a NEW wipe for a can that already had one as long as you don't make spares.  You can repair your registered can, but you can't have a pile of spare parts lying around.  This counts for baffles too for those of us with lathes.

For example, I have a Form 1 JK Armament modular can.  When I registered it, I gave them the OAL with all the baffles installed, and drilled all the baffles at once.  Now they are all registered and I can run the can in "short mode" all I want.  If I had done the opposite, and registered it with a short OAL and drilled out the baffles to make it longer and had them lying on my bench, those baffles themselves would be an unregistered suppressor.

There IS a case challenging them on this floating out there, but I don't know it's current status.  There's also the question of: If you have the ATF pawing through your workshop looking for unregistered wipes, you got bigger issues.