R.I.P Pope Francis

[Hawkmoon]

https://apnews.com/article/vatican-pope-francis-dead-01ca7d73c3c48d25fd1504ba076e2e2a

The Pope passed away, less than a day after his Easter appearance.

[K Frame]

He met with JD Vance yesterday, too.

Cue claims of MAGA assassination of the Pope in 3... 2... 1... to make room for...

Pope the Donald I. The best pope ever. Not just the bishop of Rome, but of the whole world!

[Ben]

RIP.

I watched part of the Easter services yesterday. He looked to be in very bad shape. Others actually read most of his Easter address for him.

And yes, the tolerant and loving left wing social medias are all making jokes (or in some cases I guess, are serious) that meeting with Vance killed him.

[Angel Eyes]

 

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[Brad Johnson]

RIP.

I watched part of the Easter services yesterday. He looked to be in very bad shape.

We noticed that, too. Honestly, I'm surprised he lasted this long. Pneumonia at 88 usually means you don't come out of the hospital.

RIP

Brad

[Angel Eyes]

He met with JD Vance yesterday, too.

Any chance we can get Vance to visit the Soros family?

[HankB]

RIP Pope Francis.

From what I remember in 8 years of Catholic school, the only qualification to be considered for pope is that a candidate be an adult, male, Catholic. So get ready for Pope HankB the First, my children. There are probably only a couple of hundred million more suitable candidates ahead of me, so it's in the bag.

Seriously, the odds that the College of Cardinals will pick anyone outside their group are vanishingly small. I'd like to see them pick someone from the USA - maybe Dolan from New York. I don't know enough to proclaim him the best candidate, but from the few times I've seen him speaking on TV I didn't hear anything asinine coming out of his mouth -something I can't say about some other members of the church's leadership. (That alone probably disqualifies him.)

[K Frame]

"Seriously, the odds that the College of Cardinals will pick anyone outside their group are vanishingly small."

Last time they did that was... checks notes... 1387.

So they're due, actually.

[BobR]

We noticed that, too. Honestly, I'm surprised he lasted this long. Pneumonia at 88 usually means you don't come out of the hospital.

RIP

Brad

IIRC he was missing a good portion of one lung since his teen years. That could not have helped any.

Seriously, the odds that the College of Cardinals will pick anyone outside their group are vanishingly small.

I was listening to a talking head show late last night and they were talking about  the process. Only Cardinals under 80 years old are allowed t vote for the new guy. IIRC he said there were about 130 or so under 80 and the same over 80, for some reason that strikes me as odd but their circus, their rules.

bob

[Northwoods]

Not Catholic. Won't miss Bergoglio very much.  He was a commie on many topics.

I hope for the Catholic Church's sake they pick a replacement that will restore their Church to doctrinal correctness.

[T.O.M.]

Heard from a very Catholic friend...

"The movie Conclave releases on Netflix tomorrow.  Hell of a bit of marketing, don't you think?"

[MechAg94]

 
Dalai Lama Quietly Cancels Scheduled Meeting With JD Vance
https://babylonbee.com/news/dalai-lama-quietly-cancels-scheduled-meeting-with-jd-vance

[Perd Hapley]

 I'd like to see them pick someone from the USA -

That would most likely be a disaster. Too many clergy in the West are eaten up with social "justice" and woke. Better someone from Africa or anyplace else.

[Ben]

That would most likely be a disaster. Too many clergy in the West are eaten up with social "justice" and woke. Better someone from Africa or anyplace else.

The last Pope Benedict was the man.

[Regolith]

Better someone from Africa or anyplace else.

Yup. Be funny as hell if they picked one of the African bishops for "diversity" reasons and it turns out to be one of the hard-core conservative ones. 

[Hawkmoon]

I'm not Roman Catholic, but my impression is that most of the African higher clergy are more theologically conservative than the Europeans, Americans, and other Westerners.

[K Frame]

"Only Cardinals under 80 years old are allowed t vote for the new guy. IIRC he said there were about 130 or so under 80 and the same over 80, for some reason that strikes me as odd but their circus, their rules."

Does the Squad know they're discriminating like that?

And what about Trans Cardinals, AKA Orioles? Why aren't they allowed to vote?

[K Frame]

The last Pope Benedict was the man.

Yeah but he was a Nazi, so he knew how to do relations with the Jews...

I'll see myself out...

[Perd Hapley]

I'm not Roman Catholic, but my impression is that most of the African higher clergy are more theologically conservative than the Europeans, Americans, and other Westerners.

The religious conservatism of "the global south" has been well-known in some Christian circles for several years now. Here's one article about it:

https://www.christianpost.com/news/the-rise-of-christianity-in-the-global-south.html

"Churches in countries such as Nigeria, Ghana, South Korea, and the Philippines have sent thousands of missionaries to Europe to set up churches in homes, office buildings and storefronts." African Anglican bishops are reaching out to conservative congregations in the United States, breaking away from the apostate Episcopal church.

....60 percent of the estimated two billion Christians in the world live in Africa, Asia, or Latin America. By 2050, there will be an estimated three billion Christians, 75 percent of whom will live in what is the "Global South."

But numbers only tell a part of the story. These Southern Christians have a much stronger belief in the authority of Scripture than their Western counterparts. As a Kenyan bishop said, "Our understanding of the Bible is different from them. We are two different churches."

This belief in biblical authority produces the exuberant faith and the desire to share it that Europeans and Americans desperately need.

It also promises to change Christianity—and not just in the Global South. According to Jenkins, "as the center of gravity of the Christian world moves ever southward, the conservative traditions prevailing in the global South matter even more."

There's a (presumably) Marxist concept called embourgeoisement, which some (non-Marxist) people have applied to small, newly formed religious sects (this was in an American context). These groups start off with more fervor than funding. Their evangelism attracts more people, and they emphasize a lot of stuff like "be responsible, avoid substance abuse, work hard, take care of your family, etc." They succeed and prosper. This brings in revenue and makes them comfortable. Once that happens, the more affluent among the group begin to focus less on their faith and want to be more like the affluent people they begin to rub elbows with. They relax a lot of their former mores and allow themselves to stray a bit from those strict rules. Eventually, their churches blend with the mainstream, and so do their people. It seems like the same dynamic is at work in that global north/south divide. The Southerners can't afford those "luxury beliefs," just the Gospel.

[Hawkmoon]

"Churches in countries such as Nigeria, Ghana, South Korea, and the Philippines have sent thousands of missionaries to Europe to set up churches in homes, office buildings and storefronts." African Anglican bishops are reaching out to conservative congregations in the United States, breaking away from the apostate Episcopal church.

Interesting point. This addresses Anglican (Church of England) and the Episcopal Church USA rather than the Roman Catholic Church, but I have seen this in practice. My college roommate became an Episcopal priest, and at one time he served as the pastor of a failing Episcopal church about 20 miles north of me. There are several formerly Episcopal parishes just in my small state that have split from the Episcopal Church USA and affiliated with one of two or three different Anglican dioceses that have been willing to expand their geographical boundaries to encompass parishes in the U.S.

[Angel Eyes]

Enter the Bee:

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-reports-behind-closed-doors-pope-is-focused-sharp-and-energetic

[WLJ]

https://x.com/ClownWorld_/status/1915181843378561064

[K Frame]

Back when I was a reporter, just starting out my career, Pennsylvania was looking at legalizing small games of chance for social clubs, bars, convenience stores, and the like (separate from the Pennsylvania lottery).

I drew the assignment to talk to a bunch of community leaders -- teachers, town council members, and ministers -- to see where they stood on the subject.

Most were ambivalent on the matter, except the ministers. The Protestant denominations, Baptist, Methodist, Amish/Mennonite, Lutheran, and the like were uniformly opposed. It's wrong to strive for enrichment without working for it. Basic Protestant Work Ethic.

The Catholic priest I spoke with, however, said the church was not in any way opposed, but said that he was afraid that it might cut into Sacred Heart's bingo take. He said that as a joke and wouldn't let me print it. He was a good guy. Tried a number of times to get me off Team Methodist and into Team Mackerel Snapper.

[230RN]

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[230RN]

RIP

I would like to see more of the Vatican Archives opened up --and let the Church take its lumps on any "bad" stuff that might be hidden for centuries.  Or weeks.

Fat chance.

A sip from the cup, just for flavor.

https://www.history.com/articles/step-into-the-vaticans-secret-archives

Re the Saint Anthony e-mail notice:

Back when I was a reporter, just starting out my career, Pennsylvania was looking at legalizing small games of chance for social clubs, bars, convenience stores, and the like (separate from the Pennsylvania lottery).

I drew the assignment to talk to a bunch of community leaders -- teachers, town council members, and ministers -- to see where they stood on the subject.

Most were ambivalent on the matter, except the ministers. The Protestant denominations, Baptist, Methodist, Amish/Mennonite, Lutheran, and the like were uniformly opposed. It's wrong to strive for enrichment without working for it. Basic Protestant Work Ethic.

The Catholic priest I spoke with, however, said the church was not in any way opposed, but said that he was afraid that it might cut into Sacred Heart's bingo take. He said that as a joke and wouldn't let me print it. He was a good guy. Tried a number of times to get me off Team Methodist and into Team Mackerel Snapper.

Heh.  Neat story.

Saint Anthony is my mostest favoritest Saint.  Best known as The Patron Saint Of Lost Articles, but if you look, he has a very long list of other Patronages, so he must be pretty busy.  I only bother his Lost Item Department  when I can't find my keys.  Not a joke... just a coping mechanism.

Terry, 230RN