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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2025, 01:39:43 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on April 30, 2025, 01:23:31 PM
At some point, I saw video from the desk of the Enterprise maneuvering during an air attack in WWII.  You could see the desk heal over pretty good compared to the surrounding sea. 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t08KKCRn5k

In this video footage from WWII, there are moments you can see the deck is angled over as it turns.

The Yorktowns could turn on a dime.

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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2025, 03:35:31 PM »
A bit over 1,000 meters, according to some sources, at roughly 15 knots. The turning radius diminished at top speed. A bit better than the Essex class, which was about 1,120 meters.
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2025, 09:02:06 PM »
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2025, 12:21:45 PM »
A good visual there, those nose tires are the drive tires on a spotting dolly. Movements are coordinated with the bridge because you can imagine that there is a finite amount of traction.

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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2025, 01:49:33 PM »
Quote from: BobR on April 30, 2025, 12:16:48 PM
I think the take away is "nimble for what it is". It is a big boat yet it can get off of base course pretty quickly. AFAIK they do not have thrusters on carriers, I am unsure of the Ford class but I don't think so. Here is a video showing a big boat out in the ocean doing turns. The first 90 seconds is about all that is relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtkpDV6Gq0c

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Holy crap!  The impossible exists !  What turns!
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2025, 11:17:38 PM »
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2025, 01:35:46 AM »
well, at least the brake rider question was answered for me. :)

https://www.businessinsider.com/navy-sailor-jumped-super-hornet-cockpit-before-fell-red-sea-2025-4

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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2025, 06:26:05 AM »
Is there any video available of this incident?
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2025, 09:24:03 AM »
Somebody dropped their auto knife in a river. One of my brothers-in-law found it, still in good shape, and carries it. I think it's a Benchmade.
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2025, 08:32:35 AM »
Truman lost another
This makes 3 lost during it's current deployment counting the one shot down by the Gettysburg

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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2025, 09:01:20 AM »
The comments in this thread blaming Trump  :facepalm:

https://x.com/DaOfficialVigil/status/1919958729404887161
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2025, 09:44:19 AM »
I wonder if this is going to doom the career of the carrier captain. 
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2025, 10:07:56 AM »
Quote from: MillCreek on May 07, 2025, 09:44:19 AM
I wonder if this is going to doom the career of the carrier captain.

I was wondering about that. Seems like it would have normally happened after Strike 2. For a lot of them it seems to happen after strike 1.
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2025, 01:00:46 PM »
Quote from: Ben on May 07, 2025, 10:07:56 AM
I was wondering about that. Seems like it would have normally happened after Strike 2. For a lot of them it seems to happen after strike 1.

I could be wrong, but I don't think those are this Captain's strikes.  USS Gettysburg shot down the plane before Truman tagged the merchant ship back in Feb.  I thought I read they relieved Truman's CO after the allision, which would make the current CO (@Chowdah Hill) only responsible for losing the one plane overboard during evasive maneuvers.
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2025, 01:30:05 PM »
I...umm...hip bumped Swmbo off the pontoon boat once.  That cost me thousands and thousands of dollars at QVC.
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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2025, 01:35:13 PM »
Quote from: Ben on May 07, 2025, 10:07:56 AM
I was wondering about that. Seems like it would have normally happened after Strike 2. For a lot of them it seems to happen after strike 1.

It depends on why it went over the side also I would think. IF it was a tailhook failure that happened after the plane had been slowed and the power chopped then it would just kind of roll along as the pilot jammed the throttle forward and was praying the engines would spool up fast enough (they seldom do in a jet) to keep them in the air. It could have been an arresting gear failure once again slowing the plane enough that it could not get back in the air. Or it could have been pilot error.

What ever it was this time there will be video from the PLAT camera and the camera in the island that records launches and landings. It won't be that hard to figure out. The only question is how long before the video is released or leaked.

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Re: Have you ever dropped something expensive in the water?
« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2025, 01:37:07 PM »
1st F-18 was the Gettysburg's fault.
The bump could leave a stain on a Captain's record and he was relieved.
2nd F-18, I could see someone blaming the Captain but first priority is save the ship
The 3rd. Arrestor failure, it happens but maybe we'll see what the investigation turns up

Quote from: dogmush on May 07, 2025, 01:00:46 PM
I thought I read they relieved Truman's CO after the allision, which would make the current CO (@Chowdah Hill) only responsible for losing the one plane overboard during evasive maneuvers.

Yep

Commanding Officer of USS Harry S. Truman Relieved
https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/Press-Releases/display-pressreleases/Article/4072087/commanding-officer-of-uss-harry-s-truman-relieved/
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