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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2025, 03:09:34 PM »
"my 2106 F150 2.7 Ecoboost"

2106? Wouldn't that be the Futureboost model?
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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2025, 04:51:01 PM »
"my 2106 F150 2.7 Ecoboost"

2106? Wouldn't that be the Futureboost model?

Gah. Cover blown. Temporal disruption in progress. Ignore my post, human from the past.
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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2025, 01:59:43 AM »
Our 2013 Ford Escape Titanium 2.0 Ecoboost has been great. Low milage for it's age, a tick under 60k. Oil changes when the car asks for one using Mobil 1 Synthetic for most of it's life, Synthetic Blend the last 3 or 4 changes. These days driven around town almost always on trips long enough to get the engine thoroughly up to temp.
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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2025, 07:58:39 AM »
Gah. Cover blown. Temporal disruption in progress. Ignore my post, human from the past.

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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2025, 08:20:42 AM »
I _HATE_ turbochargers. And eco-whatever probably means one... And they are WEAR items.



By this logic engines and transmissions are wear items.  They all have the same oil lubricated metal bearings.

I guess that's technically true, but doesn't really add useful information to the conversation.

And it's not like rebuilding a turbo is expensive or particularly complicated.

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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2025, 10:55:32 PM »
By this logic engines and transmissions are wear items.  They all have the same oil lubricated metal bearings.

I guess that's technically true, but doesn't really add useful information to the conversation.

And it's not like rebuilding a turbo is expensive or particularly complicated.

I stand with Bogie on turbos.  They get cherry red hot being right by the exhaust manifold, use engine oil as coolant, and cook it so it leaves deposits in places in the engine that do not benefit from them (variable valve timing, lifters, chain tensioners, pumps, etc).

I'll buy an engine with a supercharger, but I won't buy one with a turbo.  Supers will get a little hot, but nothing like a turbo.  And they usually have their own exclusive lubrication system separate from the engine.

The trouble isn't necessarily replacing the turbo.  It's the collateral damage to the rest of the engine (even if the turbine doesn't grenade and put shrapnel into the valvetrain or pistons). 
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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2025, 10:40:04 AM »
You do you.  There's lots of good engines out there.  But that post is a list of things that just aren't true.

1. Turbos, outside of a few very specific race enginge, should not be glowing red.  That's a sign you have something else wrong.

2. Many turbos (the ecoboosts we were talking about for instance) use engine coolant to keep cool.

3. Many blowers tap the engine oil system for lubrication.

4. When blowers let go they ALWAYS put bits of metal into the top of the engine.  That is no true of turbos.

I've had blown and turbo engines for decades.  I have repaired a large variety of forced induction engines for the Army. From ships to trucks, to heavy equipment. A properly designed turbo engine, maintained well, lasts as long or longer than any other version of gas engine out there.  A poorly designed or maintained engine won't last no matter what is bolted to it.

Like I said, you can buy whatever you want ,but some of this is the engine equivalent to fuddlore.  I gotta say something there.

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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2025, 02:31:28 PM »
BIG turbo fan here, see my Turbo Pinto video for a taste. I built it YEARS ago and the turbo was never an issue. Our Escape with the 2 liter turbo engine is an excellent powerplant and hasn't given us a moments trouble since we bought it new in December of 2012. It only has just under 60k miles on it and we only used Mobil 1 Synthetic in it until lately when I switched to a Synthetic blend. We change the oil when the car tells us it's time.
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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2025, 02:42:32 PM »
Our ford fusion was sold with 130k trouble free miles on the eco boost 2.0 turbo. I saw it a couple days ago and still looks great and appeared to be running just fine.
Our Kia hybrid has a 1.6L turbo. We only have 15k miles on it but performance is excellent. I worry not about the turbo but it does have a 10y/200k warranty regardless.
I can pop the hood after driving 50 miles and it’s barely warm around the engine.
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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2025, 02:46:08 PM »
The F150 I used to have had an ecoboost engine.  I think it was the first year of that engine.  It had some teething issues that I think were largely gone within a couple years.  It was some wiring issues that got me to trade in that truck. 

It loved the power.  First and only vehicle I ever had with a turbo.  I was getting about 2/3 to 3/4 of the rated mileage on my tires.
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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2025, 03:28:25 PM »
BIG turbo fan here
Nope, big turbofan here:

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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2025, 05:44:42 PM »
Ecoboost turbos seem decently robust, at least in the trucks. They are dual-cooled (water and oil) so don't appear to suffer from heat-related issues of turbos past.

Timing chain assemblies and cam phasers, on the other hand...

My 2019 F150 is Coyote powered. It's a rocket, especially since 3.73 gears were one of my absolute no-compromise must haves. Lean on the loud pedal and tires don't stand a chance off the line, though traction control throws an almighty fit. Sounds good, too. Fuel economy is impressive if you keep your foot out of it. At 77 mph flat cruise it easily taps 19.5 mpg. 65 mph returns 22+ mpg. Too bad you aren't near my AO or I'd let you take it for a spin.

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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2025, 06:09:19 PM »
110k and counting on my subaru turbo 2.0. Changed the plugs once and the oil every 3500 - 4000 and occasionally hit the rev limiter.  The turbo isn't going to be the first thing to break.
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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2025, 05:22:48 PM »
I DO have to say that the gas milage in our Escape 2.0 SUCKS! It's ok on the highway but in town, not so much.
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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2025, 06:01:52 PM »
I DO have to say that the gas milage in our Escape 2.0 SUCKS! It's ok on the highway but in town, not so much.

Interesting. Most of my driving is rural, so higher than average is expected, but I'm sitting around 23.5mpg right now on the 2.7. I've taken road trips on long, empty highways where I have gotten over 26mpg for the trip.
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Re: SWMBO crashed my Jeep...
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2025, 06:19:17 PM »
My ecoboost gas milage is pretty bad.  I get about 11.5mpg

Of course it might have something to do with the 2000 lbs of gear in the truck, roof rack, 6" lift and 35's.

Oh, and i cranked boost and hp with a tune. 

Them little turbos are blowing their hearts out, but the truck still scoots.