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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2007, 08:06:59 AM »
He's French, MBS.

I sincerely doubt that much root beer makes it to France.

It's because they dont have sassafras, which is, or used to be, the essential ingredient.
Yet another reason not to live there.
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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2007, 08:08:29 AM »
I hadn't seen sassafrass growing wild for years, since I left Pennsylvania.

Last summer I was walking along the tree line behind my house and boom, there's a small stand of about a half dozen sassafrass trees, each about 3 foot high.
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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2007, 08:35:07 AM »
He's French, MBS.

I sincerely doubt that much root beer makes it to France.
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I'm pretty sure I've seen Sassafras around here, I've just never looked for it.

One day I will have it in a garden.
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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2007, 09:37:01 AM »
I'm pretty sure I've seen Sassafras around here, I've just never looked for it.
One day I will have it in a garden.

You do know it's a tree, right?  And that the sap contains a carcinogen?

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2007, 09:57:35 AM »
"You do know it's a tree, right?  And that the sap contains a carcinogen?"

Know it?

I'm COUNTING on it!  cheesy

Actually, saffarole is listed as a possible carcinogen. Doesn't make much difference, though, as the FDA yanked it as a food additive. Suspected = guilty.

Biggest sassafrass tree I've ever seen was about 50 feet tall, but they apparently get much taller than that.

My Grandfather used to keep a small stand of the trees in a corner of his property to get the roots to make tea.

Nasty, nasty stuff.
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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2007, 10:03:42 AM »
Just thought it was odd that someone would want a tree in a garden.  I don't think of trees as garden plants.

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2007, 10:11:18 AM »
If you're cultivating it for its roots and shoots, you're going to want to keep it fairly small, so why not keep it in the garden?
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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2007, 10:37:05 AM »
Never thought of it that way.  It's a tree.  Trees don't grow in gardens. Wink

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2007, 11:22:49 AM »
"trees don't grow in gardens."

Tell that to Louis XIV.

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2007, 11:24:12 AM »
There's a wee bit of difference between a Monarch's "garden" and that of the common schlub.  His garden is bigger than my neighborhood. Smiley

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2007, 11:38:49 AM »
Every man a king in his castle.

Just because you don't feel regal doesn't mean that we can't.

You ever grow rosemary in your garden?

It's a tree...

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2007, 12:43:30 PM »
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You ever grow rosemary in your garden?

No, but I have sage growing in my lawn.

The lawn is parsley mowed.  I need to go finish it when I get the thyme.
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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2007, 05:06:47 PM »
You ever grow rosemary in your garden?

It's a tree...
Rosemary is a tree?  Never knew that.

The stuff grows like a weed in Vegas.
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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2007, 05:38:35 PM »
Don't tell me I can't have a tree garden.
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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2007, 06:18:13 PM »
Don't tell me I can't have a tree garden.
I'll burn your dog. O:<

Empty threat.

I just had my dog cremated.

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2007, 07:37:38 PM »
ManedWolf,

I don't even have to quote you--that's exactly how I feel too.  The real sugar stuff is hard to find.  You know who has it?  Whole Foods--their store brand.

And the same on the ginger beer.  I also like the birch beer.

Does anyone have a good source for sarsparilla?
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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2007, 04:11:43 AM »
ManedWolf,

I don't even have to quote you--that's exactly how I feel too.  The real sugar stuff is hard to find.  You know who has it?  Whole Foods--their store brand.

And the same on the ginger beer.  I also like the birch beer.

Does anyone have a good source for sarsparilla?

I patronize Whole Foods whenever possible. Their CEO is a pro-2A libertarian capitalist who believes that Americans have a Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, that capitalism is good, profit is compatible with environmentalism in a big-picture sense, there's nothing wrong with your own hard work generating wealth, and that leftism is a "morally bankrupt" philosophy that's installed the bloodiest dictators of the 20th century.

I like when someone like that runs a company.  grin

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2007, 04:16:54 AM »
ManedWolf,

I don't even have to quote you--that's exactly how I feel too.  The real sugar stuff is hard to find.  You know who has it?  Whole Foods--their store brand.

And the same on the ginger beer.  I also like the birch beer.

Does anyone have a good source for sarsparilla?

I patronize Whole Foods whenever possible. Their CEO is a pro-2A libertarian capitalist who believes that Americans have a Constitutional right to keep and bear arms, that capitalism is good, profit is compatible with environmentalism in a big-picture sense, there's nothing wrong with your own hard work generating wealth, and that leftism is a "morally bankrupt" philosophy that's installed the bloodiest dictators of the 20th century.

I like when someone like that runs a company.  grin

Cites?  Seriously, there are a lot of them around here.  I'd love to have another reason to shop there. Smiley

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2007, 04:25:41 AM »
Here ya go. From John Mackey (the CEO)'s blog, his keynote from a few years ago.

http://www.wholefoods.com/blogs/jm/archives/2006/02/

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At the time I started my business, the Left had taught me that business and capitalism were based on exploitation: exploitation of consumers, workers, society and the environment. I believed that "profit" was a necessary evil at best, and certainly not a desirable goal for society as a whole. However, becoming an entrepreneur completely changed my life. Everything I believed about business was proven to be wrong. The most important thing I learned about business in my first year was that business wasn't based on exploitation or coercion at all. Instead I realized that business is based on voluntary cooperation. No one is forced to trade with a business; customers have competitive alternatives in the market place; employees have competitive alternatives for their labor; investors have different alternatives and places to invest their capital. Investors, labor, management, suppliersthey all need to cooperate to create value for their customers. If they do, then any realized profit can be divided amongst the creators of the value through competitive market dynamics. In other words, business is not a zero sum game with a winner and loser. It is a win, win, win, win gameand I really like that.

However, I discovered despite my idealism that our customers thought our prices were too high, our employees thought they were underpaid, the vendors would not give us large discounts, the community was forever clamoring for donations, and the government was slapping us with endless fees, licenses, fines and taxes.

Were we profitable? Not at first. Safer Way managed to lose half of its capital in the first year$23,000. Despite the loss, we were still accused of exploiting our customers with high prices and our employees with lower wages. The investors weren't making a profit and we had no money to donate. Plus, with our losses, we paid no taxes. I had somehow joined the "dark side"  I was now one of the bad guys. According to the perspective of the Left, I had become a greedy and selfish businessman.

Abandoning Leftist Philosophy

At this point, I rationally chose to abandon the Leftist philosophy of my youth, because it no longer adequately explained how the world really worked. With my Leftist interpretation of the world now shattered, I looked around for alternative explanations for making sense of the world.

I stumbled into reading Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, Ayn RandI read all of them. I said to myself, "Wow, this all makes sense. This is how the world really works. This is incredible." Then I became Laissez Faire Books best customer for the next five years. I think I read every book in their catalog. If any of you in the audience have written books, I have probably read them.

I identify myself as a Libertarian. I am one of those people who actually votes Libertarian. I have voted strictly Libertarian since 1980. You sometimes hear that argument, "Why do you vote Libertarian? You're just throwing your vote away." I always say, "Gosh, if everybody had that attitude toward their vote, then the Libertarian candidate would get elected."

What I love most about the freedom movement are the ideas of voluntary cooperation and spontaneous order when channeled through free markets, leading to the continuous evolution and progress of humanity. I believe that individual freedom in free markets when combined with property rights through rule of law and ethical democratic government results in societies that maximize prosperity and establish conditions that promote human happiness and well being.

Unfortunately, despite of all my enthusiasm and formidable debating skills, I have had little success converting people to the freedom movement. Has that been your experience as well? The freedom movement remains a small, relatively unimportant movement in the United States today. The question is, "Why?" I want the freedom movement to sweep the world. So how can we make the freedom movement a more vital and dominant intellectual and cultural movement in the United States?

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Now let us discuss some of the ideals and goals that I think we should embrace as a movement. Who among you believes that socialized medicine is the answer to the health care crisis in America? The Left believes this is the answer: equal access to the health care system for all Americansno one denied for financial reasons, in a single-payer system. Socialized health care seems very idealistic, and as such, appeals to many people. However, as Milton Friedman taught us, there is no such thing as a free lunchin health care or anywhere else. We know the single-payer system means health care rationing through queuing up in long lines for expensive treatments and denial of some services to many of the elderly as too expensive. We know that uncaring government bureaucrats will run a single-payer system and without the discipline of competitive markets won't provide quality customer/patient service. We know that health care innovation and progress will slow down tremendously, because much less money will be dedicated to medical research since such research is long-term by nature and easily sacrificed to current budget limitations.

Not bad for a CEO.

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2007, 05:35:26 AM »
Don't tell me I can't have a tree garden.
I'll burn your dog. O:<

Empty threat.

I just had my dog cremated.



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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2007, 05:37:26 AM »
How does any of that show his support for the Second Amendment?

And I'd love to shop at Whole Foods, but they have a penchant for putting their stores in the most inconvenient spots possible, with the most horrific abortive excuses for parking lots on the face of the earth.

Perhaps they're trying to force people to take public transportation.

All I know is that the prices are too high and the employees are underpaid because they don't make $100K a year.
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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2007, 06:12:51 PM »
I didn't know that about Whole Foods.  I'll go try one out sometime.

I tend to alternate between A&W Root Beer and Cream Soda.  I slightly prefer A&W to Mug and Barq's.

IBC is good too, as are most of the sodas still in glass bottles.  Mmm, Key lime...

I tried Dr. Pepper with real sugar and, despite really wanting it to be a lot better, I couldn't really tell the difference from the corn syrup stuff.  However, I absolutely cannot stand the stuff in diet soda.  Go figure.

A buddy of mine said the primary advantage to using real sugar is that it trips whatever chemical receptors you have to make you feel full.  Not sure if it's true, but interesting if it is.

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #47 on: July 05, 2007, 09:19:25 PM »
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A buddy of mine said the primary advantage to using real sugar is that it trips whatever chemical receptors you have to make you feel full.  Not sure if it's true, but interesting if it is. 

I think your friend is on to something.  Sucralose is closest so far, but not as an exclusive sweetener; that is, if you have something that has a few sugars in it already, like a Jamba Juice and instead of adding sugar you add Splenda, it's pretty darn good!  But I'd never add it to my coffee because it doesn't have (to use the food industry terminology) the right mouthfeel.

And BTW, Rudy, let me be the first to welcome you to APS!!  grin
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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #48 on: July 06, 2007, 05:19:14 PM »
Mmmmmmm.

Root Beer.

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Re: Anyone else feeling an uncontrolled need for root beer lately?
« Reply #49 on: July 06, 2007, 08:35:08 PM »
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A buddy of mine said the primary advantage to using real sugar is that it trips whatever chemical receptors you have to make you feel full.  Not sure if it's true, but interesting if it is.

I don't know about sugar, but that is true regarding natural fat versus hydrogenated oils.
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