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Stabbing at CU Boulder - UPDATED INFO!
« on: August 27, 2007, 07:27:08 AM »
No news sources yet, but it's the first day of school, and my ladyfriend goes there.  Cops everywhere.  Someone was stabbed already, on the first damn day. 

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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2007, 07:27:39 AM »
Obviously more gun control is needed.
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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2007, 09:12:19 AM »
Here's the story.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/13983580/detail.html
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Student Stabbed At CU, Suspect Captured
Incident Happened On UMC Patio

POSTED: 10:08 am MDT August 27, 2007
UPDATED: 12:07 pm MDT August 27, 2007
BOUDLER, Colo. -- A student at the University of Colorado was stabbed in the neck outside the student center Monday morning and a suspect was quickly captured.

The Boulder Daily Camera identified the injured student as a freshman.

A man in his 50s, suspected of slashing the student across the throat, was restrained by campus police using a stun gun after he began stabbing himself, according to CU police Commander Brad Wiesley.

A uniformed officer was nearby when the student was attacked. A Boulder County sheriff's deputy was nearby and ran to help.

The incident took place around 9:45 a.m. at the University Memorial Center on the first day of classes at CU. The UMC was secured as a precaution.

A student said police surrounded the armed man but he refused to drop the knife he was holding.

"What are you going to do to me, shoot me?" witnesses quoted the man as saying to the officers.

The man stabbed himself "multiple times" before he was stunned and subdued, according to Bronson Hilliard, a spokesman for the University of Colorado-Boulder.

Police cordoned off the crime scene near Broadway at Euclid, but students could be seen walking freely along the perimeter of the area about 90 minutes after the drama unfolded.

A CU spokeswoman said that reports of a backpack with bomb-making materials inside were not true, however police called the bomb squad over a suspicious satchel that the man was carrying. It was dropped near a door of the UMC.

A bomb squad member outfitted in full protective gear examined the satchel.

The student who was slashed was not seriously injured, according to Wiesley. He was coherent and able to talk to police after the attack.

The student was treated for his injuries and released.

The man suspected of slashing him was seriously injured from self-inflicted knife wounds. He was rushed to Boulder Community Hospital for treatment.

Wiesley said the man had parked a Jeep Cherokee across the street from the UMC and walked to the west patio of the student center where he started screaming.

It was not immediately known what provoked the man. Some witnesses said he yelling about the end of the world.

"Everyone thought he was doing a skit or something, but it ended up being real," student Cory Ravelson told the Daily Camera.

"He was waving around something shiny and sharp & and people were walking around him," said another student.

That's when a student walking nearby was grabbed from behind and slashed across the neck.

Police broke out a window of the Jeep the man had driven to the campus after they spotted suspicious-looking wires inside. The "all clear" was given after the Jeep was thoroughly searched and wires were found to connect to large speakers in the rear of the vehicle.

A new text-message alert system was used to inform CU students about the incident. The text sent out to students at 10:15 a.m. said: "From CU Police a stabbing at UMC at 9:43 AM Suspect in custody, UMC terrace & Euclid St closed for several hours. More info later at www.colorado.edu/police."

However, some faculty members complained the CU staff were not informed of what was going on, however the alert system is "opt in" and alerts were sent out to CU staff that elected to receive the text notifications.

The text-messaging system was put into place after CU officials reviewed safety measures in the wake of the Virginia Tech shootings.

Students were told to go to class and the campus has not been shut down.

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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2007, 09:15:41 AM »
Should have let him continue to stab himself.  Save the tax payers the cost of a trial and/or mental help.
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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2007, 09:18:31 AM »
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A student said police surrounded the armed man but he refused to drop the knife he was holding.

"What are you going to do to me, shoot me?" witnesses quoted the man as saying to the officers.

Interesting thing to say. Probably be interpreted as "just another gun nut" by the other side.
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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2007, 11:47:49 AM »
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Should have let him continue to stab himself.  Save the tax payers the cost of a trial and/or mental help.

That's what I was going to say on THR but figured that I would get banned for it.
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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2007, 12:41:42 PM »
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"What are you going to do to me, shoot me?" witnesses quoted the man as saying to the officers.

Precisely.
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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2007, 06:59:09 PM »
More support for campus allowed CCW.

But in liberal Boulder, you'd probably be ostracized if you did actually rightfully defend yourself from said whackjob.  Boulder is probably one of the few places more liberal than Stumptown.
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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2007, 07:00:27 PM »
My girlfriend is carrying pepper spray now.  That makes me feel only slightly better.  Gotta get that woman a gun and a carry permit.

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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2007, 10:28:27 PM »
Has this been on the television yet? Wonder how long until we start hering about how we need more "common sense" gun laws.  rolleyes
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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder - UPDATED INFO!
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2007, 04:53:45 AM »
My girlfriend just got this email from the school.

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Begin forwarded message:

From: News Alert E-Memo <memofrom@Colorado.edu>
Date: August 28, 2007 1:11:57 AM MDT

TO:      All Students

FROM:    Chancellor G.P. "Bud" Peterson

SENDER: ChanChat@colorado.edu

DATE: 8/27/07

SUBECT: A Message to the CU-Boulder Campus Students:

I know most of you have learned of the unfortunate incident that occurred this
morning at the University Memorial Center.  A freshman student at the
University of Colorado at Boulder has been released from the hospital following
a random stabbing by a middle-aged man who stormed the terrace of the campus
student union this morning.

The stabbing occurred about 9:43 a.m. when the suspect, who was arrested
immediately following the incident, approached the student at the University
Memorial Center.  Both the student and the suspect were taken to a local
hospital.   I am happy to report that the student, Michael G. Knorps, a
freshman finance major from Chicago, is doing very well.  Doctors report that
he will be able to return to classes as early as tomorrow if he so desires.

I spoke to Michael shortly after the incident while he was at the hospital and
he was in remarkably good spirits.  I have also kept in contact with Michael's
family throughout the day.  Representatives of the Office of Victims Assistance
have been with Michael most of the day and are providing assistance to his
family as well.

I applaud the rapid response of law enforcement officials to this incident.

The Boulder County Sheriff's officer who responded first to the attack while it
was occurring had been directing traffic near the UMC.  A Boulder Police
officer driving by also responded while the situation was in progress, and CU
Police responded within moments to assist in treating and evacuating the
victim, to secure and remove the assailant, and to conduct a thorough search
and investigation of the scene.   The attacker's backpack and vehicle were
examined by Boulder City Police bomb experts who found no additional weapons or
hazardous materials.

The attacker, who has now been charged but is still undergoing medical care for
his self-inflicted wounds, has been identified as Kenton Drew Astin, 39, a
former temporary employee of the UMC.   Astin had been employed here briefly as
part of a cooperative program between CU-Boulder and Chinook Clubhouse. His
employment here was uneventful.  He had no performance or behavior issues
throughout his six months employment at UMC, which ended in April 2007.

Chinook Clubhouse is a program dedicated to enhancing the recovery of men and
women with mental illnesses. It provides opportunities for members to live,
work, learn, and socialize while contributing their talents in a community of
mutual support   The Chinook Clubhouse, which is not affiliated with the
University, works with the Colorado Division of Vocational Rehabilitation to
offer transitional employment opportunities for its clients.   We have worked
with the Chinook Clubhouse to provide temporary employment for a small number
of its clients for 17 years with no incidents.

The assailant, prior to his employment, had been charged with various crimes
including  criminal intent to commit first degree murder, but had been found
-not guilty by reason of insanity- and ordered in to treatment at the Colorado
state mental hospital in Pueblo.
  He has been in rehabilitation and treatment
locally, under close supervision, since his release more than two years ago
and until this morning's incident had never demonstrated any aggressive
behavior.  His temporary employment with the University was a part of his
return to being a productive member of the community.  We have no reason to
believe that his prior employment was related in any way to today's attack.
Nevertheless, today's incident has compelled us to take several actions to
ensure a safe and secure campus for all our faculty, staff, students, visitors,
and the community at large.   

Effective immediately, we will take the following
actions:
1)     Conduct, criminal background checks on all new employees-permanent and
temporary employees alike.

2)     Continue to do background checks on a number of existing employees
3)     Review the status of our current background checks policy to determine
what changes are needed.
4)     Initiate a comprehensive review of all -referred employment
relationships- like the one we have with the Chinook Clubhouse and suspend the
hiring of any new additions until this review is completed.

5)     Conduct a review of all temporary employees from these organizations and
place them on administrative leave with pay until criminal background checks
are completed.

We have made counseling services available to faculty, staff and students who
may need them.  Students, faculty and staff emotionally affected by today's
incident are encouraged to contact one of several psychological services
offices on campus.  Counseling will be made available on a walk-in basis in the
Office of Victim Assistance, in Counseling and Psychological Services, and
through the Center for Multicultural Affairs.  All three offices are located on
the first and second floors of the Willard Administrative Center located just
northeast of Regent Hall.

Let me conclude by again extending our heartfelt thanks to the rapid response
of law enforcement officials on the scene who prevented this horrible, random
attack from escalating into something far more dangerous and harmful.   Campus
security will continue on a heightened state of awareness with increased
patrols of the campus and housing areas for the remainder of this week.  I
encourage anyone seeing anything suspicious to take action and report it
immediately to the CUPD Dispatch at (303) 492-6666.

I also want to express the deepest regret and sympathy to Michael Knorps and
his family for this terrible ordeal they have experienced today.  We endeavor
to do all that we can do to ensure a safe and welcoming environment here on the
CU-Boulder campus for all of our students, faculty, staff and visitors.
Although today's attack was a single, unprovoked and random act of violence
that defies our imagination and challenges the very best of planning and
preparation, we will be ever vigilant in our efforts to make this the safe and
secure university environment we want it to continue to be.   We are thankful
that Michael is safe and has been released into the loving arms of his family.
He is a brave young man and, from my conversation with him, I am very impressed
at how well he is handling this traumatic event.

Finally, I encourage all of you to sign up for the emergency text/email
messaging service that was implemented for CU-Boulder just last week and was
used for the first time today to alert the campus of this incident.  Our study
of the Virginia Tech shootings and emergency response led us to adopt this form
of emergency notification as one way to get critical information out much more
quickly and reliably than email.

The text/email messaging service is intended to convey time-critical
information in emergencies - with additional information on breaking
news/events provided on the CU-Boulder website which was continuously updated
throughout the day.  The university issued a text message at 10:20 a.m. to
approximately 1,300 students,  faculty and staff members who had signed up for
the service since it was activated less than a week ago on Aug. 23.  I
encourage you all to sign up for this important free service.   Students,
faculty and staff with a colorado.edu e-mail address can sign up online through
CUConnect at http://cuconnect.colorado.edu/  or by going to
http://www.colorado.edu/alerts/

They are just now going to BEGIN background checks?
They hired an insane attempted murderer? Are you friggin' kidding me?


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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder - UPDATED INFO!
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2007, 05:08:06 AM »
Office of Victims Assistance

If they have enough crime on campus to need an Office of Victims Assistance, then there is something terribly wrong with the way they operate that school.

That they can call a person brave just for having the pure dumb luck to have survived a knife attack, boggles the mind.

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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder - UPDATED INFO!
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2007, 05:13:49 AM »
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They are just now going to BEGIN background checks?
They hired an insane attempted murderer? Are you friggin' kidding me?

It's a diversity thing. Real Americans wouldn't understand.
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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder - UPDATED INFO!
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2007, 05:18:44 AM »
They are big on diversity there.  I was in Boulder last week, and the only diversity I saw was different classes of white people.  Rich, poor, young, old, super fit mountain bikers, and homeless druggies.  But all white.

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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder - UPDATED INFO!
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2007, 05:29:21 AM »
I suppose a whackjob in the mix does add to diversity.   

If the enlightened administration wants to be part of the broad social expirement of mainstreaming "rehabilitated" murderers shouldn't they do it during the summer month's only?


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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder - UPDATED INFO!
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2007, 05:43:48 AM »
Office of Victims Assistance

If they have enough crime on campus to need an Office of Victims Assistance, then there is something terribly wrong with the way they operate that school.

Probably some mandated federal program to get more money.  Regardless if you have crime or not.
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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder - UPDATED INFO!
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2007, 05:44:14 AM »
Remember the leftist subconscious mantra:

1. Criminals are victims.
2. Victims who defend themselves are criminals.


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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder - UPDATED INFO!
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2007, 07:12:27 AM »
39 is "middle-aged" now Huh?
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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder - UPDATED INFO!
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2007, 07:43:23 AM »
When I was in college, I took some time off in the middle to go play Army... Went back, and figured I'd score an RA job, something like that... Well, I check into the third floor, and I find that they already have an RA...
 
He's about 45ish.
 
Okay. He's got seniority.
 
He's also got a LOT of bad tattoos...
 
Did a bit of further checking. And some interviewing of said subject.
 
Turned out he'd just gotten out of jail, after doing seven years for murder.
 
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Re: Stabbing at CU Boulder - UPDATED INFO!
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2007, 08:39:31 AM »
39 is "middle-aged" now Huh?

To Hollywood, yes. Haven't you noticed the age of stars in movies now?

I was struck by that when reading an article about early 80's shows. The "Buck Rogers" show, terribly cheesy, had as its "young" stars Gil Gerard, then 36, and Erin Gray, then 29.

Now, it's very unusual for the stars of shows to be even approaching 30. Even people in "command" or "senior" positions are around 30, if that. District Attorneys, whatever, they all have to look younger than 30.

We're headed for Logan's Run, it seems.