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US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« on: October 30, 2007, 01:54:37 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/africa/10/29/somalia.pirates/index.html

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U.S. destroyer pursuing hijacked ship in Somali waters, military says

 

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A U.S. destroyer has entered Somali territorial waters in pursuit of a Japanese-owned ship loaded with benzene that was hijacked by pirates over the weekend, military officials said Monday.
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The destroyer USS Porter, shown in 2006, sank pirate skiffs tied to the stern of the hijacked vessel.

The guided-missile destroyer USS Arleigh Burke entered Somali waters with the permission of the troubled transitional government in Mogadishu, U.S. officials said. In recent years, warships have stayed outside the 12-mile limit when chasing pirates.

The ongoing operation was confirmed to CNN by two military officials familiar with the details.

Gunmen aboard two skiffs hijacked the Panamanian-flagged Golden Mori off the Socotra archipelago, near the Horn of Africa, said Andrew Mwangura, a spokesman for Kenya's Seafarers' Assistance Programme.

The Golden Mori radioed for help Sunday night. The Burke's sister ship, the USS Porter, opened fire and sank the pirate skiffs tied to its stern before the Burke took over shadowing the hijacked vessel.

When the shots were fired, it was not known the ship was filled with highly flammable benzene. U.S. military officials indicate there is a great deal of concern about the cargo because it is so sensitive.


Benzene, which U.S. authorities have declared a known human carcinogen, is used as a solvent and to make plastics and synthetic fabrics.

U.S. and NATO warships have been patrolling off the Horn of Africa for several years in an effort to crack down on piracy off Somalia, where a U.N.-backed transitional government is struggling to restore order after 15 years of near-anarchy.

In June, the destroyer USS Carter Hall fired warning shots in an attempt to stop a hijacked Danish cargo ship off Somalia, but the American vessel had to turn away when the pirated ship entered Somali waters.

In May, a U.S. Navy advisory warned merchant ships to stay at least 200 miles off the Somali coast. But the U.S. Maritime Administration said pirates sometimes issue false distress calls to lure ships closer to shore.

The pirates are often armed with automatic rifles and shoulder-fired rockets, according to a recent warning from the agency.

"To date, vessels that increase speed and take evasive maneuvers avoid boarding, while those that slow down are boarded, taken to the Somali coastline and released after successful ransom payment, often after protracted negotiations of as much as 11 weeks," it advised.

The agency issued a new warning to sailors in the Gulf of Aden, between Somalia and Yemen, after Sunday's hijacking was reported. E-mail to a friend


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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 02:13:10 PM »
A shot or two across the bow and then many as needed into the wheelhouse, until they stop.

US Navy to the vessel's owners:  "Here's your ship back, sorry about the holes, but with some spackle and little paint it'll look good as new. Oh, you like our new bow spirt decorations Huh??  They're (former) pirates heads...... "



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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 02:14:56 PM »
DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE
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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 02:49:31 PM »
benzene go boom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzene

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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 02:53:46 PM »
Global cooling is causing the pirate attacks.


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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 03:06:05 PM »
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benzene go boom

Maybe other pirates see the big kaboom and find a new line of work Huh??

Or as they say pour encourager les autres.... shocked shocked shocked
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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 03:26:28 PM »
benzene go boom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzene

ixnay on the shots

And if there's no hostages on the ship, that'd be bad why?


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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 03:58:10 PM »
Benzene is a single aromatic ring and the principal component of gasoline, as well as the chemical progenitor of toluene and TNT. If that thing goes up in flames, the greens and their political sympathizers will have a major panty-twisting incident. And they already like the military so very much...

A shot off the bow won't do *expletive deleted*it, because the pirates know the navy will not actually shoot the ship itself. Probably even a small-arms firefight on board is out of the question, considering the cargo.

Is Somalia the next toilet our imperial gov will invade?

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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2007, 05:38:17 PM »
They're lucky Capt. C. Rodney Girvin III (USN Ret) isn't in charge, he'd a already blown their asses up!  laugh
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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2007, 05:46:34 PM »
Just because Capt. Girvin likes to run over sailboats in Australia doesn't mean he'd be able to blow any pirate boats up.  shocked
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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2007, 06:42:18 PM »
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Is Somalia the next toilet our imperial gov will invade?

BTDT, won't do it again.


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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2007, 07:06:22 PM »
I second that.  No hostages, so screw it.

Make the bastards learn the hard way that piracy is a real dead end.
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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2007, 07:26:03 PM »
I second that.  No hostages, so screw it.

Make the bastards learn the hard way that piracy is a real dead end.

The current doctrine "If you hijack another ship we'll follow you around again!" certainly isn't going to do a lot of good.
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2007, 10:54:27 PM »
I think some old scratchy vinyl Barbara Streisand LPs at ear-splitting sound pressure levels might keep these guys away. Of course it might kill the crew as well.

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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2007, 01:15:32 AM »
Just because Capt. Girvin likes to run over sailboats in Australia doesn't mean he'd be able to blow any pirate boats up.  shocked
You heard about that?   It was actually New Zealand though. laugh

One time, late at night, Mr Girvin was the OOD (Officer of the Deck) when we (a destroyer) took a real heavy roll that almost caused us to fall out of our racks. The story behind it was we were steaming along and there was a cargo ship coming the other way on our line of travel. We adjusted course to avoid it, it adjusted course to match our line again. This happened several times I guess. They tried hailing it every way they could but couldn't get a response. So they figure it's making hostile gestures with these course adjustments. They man the guns and train them on the ship, trying to raise them on the loudspeaker now, still no response. So Girvin plays a little high seas chicken with them and cuts a 180* turn JUST in time to avoid them. As we're doing this the watches can see a guy on the bridge of the ship trying to steer with one hand and put his pants on with the other. The whole crew had been sleeping and the ship was on auto pilot.  laugh

One of my closer scrapes with international incident.  grin
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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2007, 02:55:36 AM »
A harpoon isn't good enough for those morons.  Some MEUSOC Marines oughta be sent in to clear that puppy out.  That way it can be returned to its rightful owners, and the bullet riddled corpses of the hijackers can be displayed on CNN.
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2007, 04:44:28 AM »
BTDT, this is not the first time we've recently chased/captured pirates in that area.
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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2007, 05:45:28 AM »
http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/chi-somalia_wor31oct31,0,6216928.story

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SOMALIA - A U.S. Navy destroyer helped sailors who retook control of their vessel Tuesday in a deadly battle with pirates after the North Korean-flagged ship was hijacked in the piracy-plagued waters off Somalia.

A helicopter crew from the USS Williams, responding to a phoned-in tip of a hijacked ship, demanded by radio that the pirates give up their weapons, the military said. The crew of the Dai Hong Dan then overwhelmed the hijackers, leaving two pirates dead and five captured.

The Navy also confirmed that other U.S. warships sank two pirate skiffs late Sunday.

At least the North Koreans aren't afraid to go mano~a~mano with priates.  Maybe if more merchant crews were armed and trained at repelling boarders this wouldn't  happen as much.   But in these days of "just lie there and be a good little victim", that won't happen.....
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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2007, 06:19:55 AM »
BTDT, this is not the first time we've recently chased/captured pirates in that area.

This would be the reason for one of our first, if not our first, incursion to foreign soil.  The year was 1805. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Derna
This was during the first Barbary War.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

What's interesting about this whole thing is that it was a North Korean vessel.  That oughta foster some goodwill, protecting NK's shipping.
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2007, 06:36:36 AM »
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Maybe if more merchant crews were armed and trained at repelling boarders this wouldn't  happen as much.

I don't understand why ship owners and crews don't take steps to protect their own vessels (investments).  Huh?

A few swivel guns would take care of the smaller pirate craft in short order.
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2007, 06:49:05 AM »
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Maybe if more merchant crews were armed and trained at repelling boarders this wouldn't  happen as much.

I don't understand why ship owners and crews don't take steps to protect their own vessels (investments).  Huh?

A few swivel guns would take care of the smaller pirate craft in short order.

I believe it's against international law.


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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2007, 06:51:32 AM »
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Maybe if more merchant crews were armed and trained at repelling boarders this wouldn't  happen as much.

I don't understand why ship owners and crews don't take steps to protect their own vessels (investments).  Huh?

A few swivel guns would take care of the smaller pirate craft in short order.

Because many, many ports will not allow armed ships or armed crews in.  Some won't even allow armed ships in thier territorial waters.
There is an interesting special on pirates that was on the History channel not too long ago.  The mentioned that.  They showed some shipping companies that were helocoptering contractors on and off ships in very dangerous waters....but they interviewed some dork from some agency that spewed a bunch of blissninnery about arming merchant ships.
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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2007, 08:41:34 AM »
Here's a conspiracy theory for ya.

NK Benzene hauler gets "hijaacked" by Somalis. Ship goes off course for a while, off it's plan, etc. Somalis unload "questionable" items that were on board. NK crew "takes the ship back" from the pirates, goes about their merry way with nobody the wiser. NK has it's ship, pirates have whatever it was that was given to them... 

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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2007, 08:49:51 AM »
Potential career opportunity.

1)  Get a nicely outfitted Man 'o War.

2)  Get Letter of Marque from Congress   rolleyes

3)  Set sail for Horn of Africa.

4)  Offer to escort merchant ships for a nominal fee.

5)  Make piles of cash and get to play with fun toys !!!!

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Re: US Destroyer pursuing pirate hijacked ship
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2007, 08:53:46 AM »
I doubt the Benzene would go boom.  I guess it depends on how it was stored.  I don't think it would burn without oxygen/air to burn with.  It could catch fire and be very hard to put out though.  I would be more worried about leaks affecting our sailors. 
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