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Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« on: January 14, 2007, 10:24:43 AM »
After hearing the East Coast Eloi media talk all week of the Browns' vaunted defense and the Browns fans whine about how Indy "stole" the Colts, it was good to see the Colts knock the tar out of the Browns on Saturday.  Who among APS has a dog in the fight?

What's your pick for the Superbowl and by how much? police

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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2007, 12:16:35 PM »
Saints by 3
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2007, 02:20:02 PM »
Philly by 4...next year. grin

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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2007, 02:38:20 PM »
Indy who?

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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2007, 06:04:41 PM »
I'm a Bear fan, but I figure any of the teams left in the running has a good shot at it. In fact, I figured any of the eight teams that played this week end had a legit claim to be super bowl material, at least this year.

Indy-NE is always a good matchup, and who knows what will happen. The Brady jink on Payton may be lifted, but NE is tough to beat in the playoffs.

Bears-NO should be a great game too, especially if the good Rex Grossman shows up for the game. Does anyone else wonder what happened to the Bear defense?
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2007, 06:54:52 PM »
Not being an NFL fan, I have no axe to grind in the championship - but I'd really like the NO Saints to do well, for the sake of the city.  It'd be a heck of a morale-booster for them, a year after Katrina.
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2007, 07:14:36 PM »
Being a Steelers fan I have no dog in it this year , I would like to see Peyton get his ring while he has a decent supporting cast. He is truly an incredibile student of the game and smarter than most of the guys coaching him over the years.

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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2007, 07:16:33 PM »
Not being an NFL fan, I have no axe to grind in the championship - but I'd really like the NO Saints to do well, for the sake of the city.  It'd be a heck of a morale-booster for them, a year after Katrina.

Same here. I'd really like to see New Orleans win.
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2007, 07:27:33 PM »
I have to say that I am a freedom loving person and I don't root for any of the socialist infected regions of the country. I try not to do business with them either. I have some pet names: Chicago-Soviet Bears, New York MIG Jets, New England Comrades (sorry, no way to fit patriots into their name). Maybe I have to root for the Indianopolis Colt 45 Peacekeepers!
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2007, 02:46:42 AM »
It wasn't exactly a tar knocking.

The Colts offense looked extremely impotent against the Ravens D.

They're only moving on on the strength of one man's foot.

That game was a commedy of errors, poor execution, and lackluster performances.
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2007, 02:50:33 AM »
As long as the Red Sox with Helmets don't choke they should be alright.  cheesy
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2007, 03:12:59 AM »
Now that the Chargers are done, I hope the Colts win.  I don't want Manning to be the next Dan Marino.  The best quarterback to never win the Super Bowl.  And because I'm really tired of hearing about the Patriots and Brady.
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2007, 03:31:44 AM »
Mike, the Colts offense controlled the game and moved the ball.  Both are things that should not have happened according to FOX and ESPN.

The Colts scored more points than the Browns and that's enough to knock the tar out of all those talkative Baltimore Browns fans. grin

New England is always tough, a solid team all around with a solid B+ quarterback.  Even with home dome advantage, the Colt will have a tough row to hoe. police
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2007, 04:12:49 AM »
.  And because I'm really tired of hearing about the Patriots and Brady.

Oh, no kidding, +100 on that.
Boston fans are insufferable.  Great man Brady, but seriously, give it a break, please. We let you win a World Series, now let someone else win the Super Bowl.

oh yeah, and Schottenheimer should be fired!!!!!!!!!!!!!! angry
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2007, 05:04:45 AM »
Tejon,

Take a look at the box score: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20070113033

Less than 20 total yards separating the two teams in total offensive yardage.

Hell, they both had exactly the same total passing yards - 161.

NEITHER team moved the ball well.

The only clearly superior stat the Colts had over the Ravens was the Colts fumbled 3 times, and lost none of them, but the Ravens fumbled twice and lost both. I think both of those ended up being points. Both QBs also threw 2 picks a piece.

The thing that absolutely killed Baltimore was that they consistently had worse field position and couldn't get into position to match the Colts field goal for field goal.

Each team had exactly 2 drives that resulted in more than 50 yards. The Colts converted both, the Ravens converted one.

This is truly one of those games that could have gone either way in a single play. Neither team outplayed the other, the Colts simply outlucked the Ravens through better field position and a couple of timely turnovers.
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2007, 05:15:31 AM »
Here you go El...

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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2007, 06:38:22 AM »
Turnovers almost always define the game.

the question I have is where did the colt's get a defense?
2 weeks in a row after taking the whole season off.
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2007, 07:54:51 AM »
no dog in fight. but my $0.02

norlins' beats bears 27-24

pats over the colts 31-27

s.bowl pats buy 6.

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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2007, 10:22:24 AM »
New England is always tough, a solid team all around with a solid B+ quarterback

Oh, you mean that solid B+ QB who has 3 Superbowl rings to Peyton Mannings...um...let me count..yeah...0 rings?  Manning is a crybaby who cannot handle the pressure of the playoffs, he has a 5-6 record in the playoffs and is not fit to shine Tom Brady's shoes.

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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2007, 10:32:56 AM »
New England is always tough, a solid team all around with a solid B+ quarterback

Oh, you mean that solid B+ QB who has 3 Superbowl rings to Peyton Mannings...um...let me count..yeah...0 rings?  Manning is a crybaby who cannot handle the pressure of the playoffs, he has a 5-6 record in the playoffs and is not fit to shine Tom Brady's shoes.

Jesus, Dude, take the football out of your ass, it's putting a little too much pressure on your external "my psyche is defined by the teams I love, my manhood is directly linked to the success of my team" ego...  rolleyes

I agree with El Tejon's assessment -- Brady's stats have always been solid, in the top 1/3rd of the league, but he's never put up the spectacular, year after year league leading numbers like other quarterbacks have in years past. It's his consistency and the depth of the team around him that makes him so effective.
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2007, 10:53:17 AM »
Brady's always been fortunate to have a solid team around him.  Manning has always had the offense but never the defense.  I think it's been well established that Manning is far and away, the best quarterback in the NFL. 
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2007, 10:57:27 AM »
I think that's a good statement.  I think Brady has better coaching for sure.

But if you were a GM on a brand new team, money no object, who woudl be your QB?

I do think Brady just wins.  Not flashy, not great stats, but he just wins.  (12-1 playoffs?  amazing stat)
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2007, 12:07:10 PM »
it's putting a little too much pressure on your external "my psyche is defined by the teams I love, my manhood is directly linked to the success of my team" ego...

Sorry, I think you might be projecting a bit of your own ideas on to me.  If you can't handle a discussion about football maybe you shouldn't read the thread. 

If Brady is a B+ QB, with what he accomplishes in the post-season, what is an A+ QB?  Manning has historically choked in the post-season, and then he goes on to throw his teammates under the bus. 


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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2007, 12:11:13 PM »
The only stat that matters is the final score.

Tejon,

Take a look at the box score: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20070113033

Less than 20 total yards separating the two teams in total offensive yardage.

Hell, they both had exactly the same total passing yards - 161.

NEITHER team moved the ball well.

The only clearly superior stat the Colts had over the Ravens was the Colts fumbled 3 times, and lost none of them, but the Ravens fumbled twice and lost both. I think both of those ended up being points. Both QBs also threw 2 picks a piece.

The thing that absolutely killed Baltimore was that they consistently had worse field position and couldn't get into position to match the Colts field goal for field goal.

Each team had exactly 2 drives that resulted in more than 50 yards. The Colts converted both, the Ravens converted one.

This is truly one of those games that could have gone either way in a single play. Neither team outplayed the other, the Colts simply outlucked the Ravens through better field position and a couple of timely turnovers.
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Re: Indy Colts Pound Baltimore Browns, Superbowl Predictions
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2007, 12:29:11 PM »
it's putting a little too much pressure on your external "my psyche is defined by the teams I love, my manhood is directly linked to the success of my team" ego...

If you can't handle a discussion about football maybe you shouldn't read the thread. 

That's funny, but I don't recall calling any of the opposing players crybabies and spouting about shoe shining.

That's what's called an emotional response.

So far you're the only individual in this entire discussion who has seen fit to launch into a diatribe based not on factual information, but heartfelt emotional investment -- not uncommon among sports fans.

We're discussing football. You're not. You're ranting.

IF you want to join the discussion, go here and review the stats for Tom Brady and compare them to Peyton Manning: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics?stat=pass&sort=rat&league=nfl&season=2&year=2006

You'll see that it matches up with what has been said -- Brady is a good quarterback with a very solid, very deep team around him; Manning is a serious offense producer who hasn't been the beneficiary of the kind of depth that the Patriots have assembled, and been able to maintain, over the past several years.

Manning's the kind of quarterback who, because of his skills, can force a less capable team like the Colts into the win column month after month (Donovan McNabb of the Eagles is the same kind of QB on the same kind of team) where Tom Brady's skills complement an already exceptional team.

It would be a really interesting exercise to see what would happen were Manning and Brady to change teams and everything else remain the same. I think the Patriots would remain a top notch team, and become even more explosive, but the Colts would, I think, take a step back.


 



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