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Re: Let the panic buying resume: ATF proposes reclassifying steel core 5.56 as AP
« Reply #100 on: March 10, 2015, 05:17:26 PM »
I must eat my earlier words on this matter, on this thread.  Please pass the Sriracha.
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Re: Let the panic buying resume: ATF proposes reclassifying steel core 5.56 as AP
« Reply #101 on: March 10, 2015, 09:09:47 PM »
Quote from: Hutch on March 10, 2015, 05:17:26 PM
I must eat my earlier words on this matter, on this thread.  Please pass the Sriracha.
While it is awesome that they withdrew their plan, it isn't over. Just a tactical retreat.  You can hold off on word eating for a bit.
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Re: Let the panic buying resume: ATF proposes reclassifying steel core 5.56 as AP
« Reply #102 on: March 10, 2015, 09:57:58 PM »
Quote from: cordex on March 10, 2015, 09:09:47 PM
While it is awesome that they withdrew their plan, it isn't over. Just a tactical retreat.  You can hold off on word eating for a bit.

Sriracha is tasty,  and this isn't over.  I'll take a retreat though.
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Re: Let the panic buying resume: ATF proposes reclassifying steel core 5.56 as AP
« Reply #103 on: March 10, 2015, 10:16:55 PM »
According to an email sent out to its members, the Texas State Rifle Association was contacted by a Texas Congressman (John Culbertson, R-Harris Co.) who chairs a committee ". . . with direct influence over BATF . . ." and who convinced the BATmen to remove the ban - permanently.

More bothersome was this little tidbit:

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. . . We were also told that the ban was actually the first of several.  All part of a "research project" designed to review many types of common ammunition which might be armor-piercing.

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Re: Let the panic buying resume: ATF proposes reclassifying steel core 5.56 as AP
« Reply #104 on: March 11, 2015, 05:20:25 AM »
They'll need to change the law to do what they want - good luck with that
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Re: Let the panic buying resume: ATF proposes reclassifying steel core 5.56 as AP
« Reply #105 on: March 11, 2015, 06:08:11 AM »
This wouldn't have happened without a Republican led congress and a sympathetic Fox News that the chicken littles love to bad mouth so much.
Thankfully the hyperbolic doomsdayers have been consistently wrong with it comes to predicting future gun laws and further bans.

So much for a supposedly "spineless" Republican congress, ehh?
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Re: Let the panic buying resume: ATF proposes reclassifying steel core 5.56 as AP
« Reply #106 on: March 11, 2015, 06:21:50 AM »
Quote from: adively on March 10, 2015, 03:03:19 PM
Posting from the horse's mouth.

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2015-03-021015-advisory-notice-those-commenting-armor-piercing-ammunition-exemption-framework.html

NOTICE TO THOSE COMMENTING ON THE ARMOR PIERCING AMMUNITION EXEMPTION FRAMEWORK

Thank you for your interest in ATF's proposed framework for determining whether certain projectiles are “primarily intended for sporting purposes” within the meaning of 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(C). The informal comment period will close on Monday, March 16, 2015. ATF has already received more than 80,000 comments, which will be made publicly available as soon as practicable.

Although ATF endeavored to create a proposal that reflected a good faith interpretation of the law and balanced the interests of law enforcement, industry, and sportsmen, the vast majority of the comments received to date are critical of the framework, and include issues that deserve further study. Accordingly, ATF will not at this time seek to issue a final framework. After the close of the comment period, ATF will process the comments received, further evaluate the issues raised therein, and provide additional open and transparent process (for example, through additional proposals and opportunities for comment) before proceeding with any framework.

Still hung up on sporting purposes it seems.  Yes, the 2nd Amendment is all about sporting purposes.
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Re: Let the panic buying resume: ATF proposes reclassifying steel core 5.56 as AP
« Reply #107 on: March 11, 2015, 09:32:10 AM »
Quote from: makattak on March 09, 2015, 02:04:33 PM
You have my sympathies.

Thanks.  Nothing back from his office yet.

Good news about the BATFE's about-face though, yes? Sure, it's nothing to get complacent about, but hey, every little bit helps!
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Re: Let the panic buying resume: ATF proposes reclassifying steel core 5.56 as AP
« Reply #108 on: March 11, 2015, 04:11:31 PM »
Quote from: pawcatch on March 11, 2015, 06:08:11 AM
This wouldn't have happened without a Republican led congress and a sympathetic Fox News that the chicken littles love to bad mouth so much.
Thankfully the hyperbolic doomsdayers have been consistently wrong with it comes to predicting future gun laws and further bans.

So much for a supposedly "spineless" Republican congress, ehh?
Maybe gun issues are one thing they believe their voters will hold against them the next election.  The gun groups like the NRA and similar groups generally do a good job of rating polticians and making sure people know about it the past issues.  I think a lot of gun guys also fall into that category of voter that rarely sees a politician they like, but might be easily motivated to vote against a candidate. 
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Re: Let the panic buying resume: ATF proposes reclassifying steel core 5.56 as AP
« Reply #109 on: March 21, 2015, 08:36:05 AM »
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Re: Let the panic buying resume: ATF proposes reclassifying steel core 5.56 as AP
« Reply #110 on: March 21, 2015, 09:31:18 AM »
Quote from: pawcatch on March 11, 2015, 06:08:11 AM
This wouldn't have happened without a Republican led congress and a sympathetic Fox News that the chicken littles love to bad mouth so much.
Thankfully the hyperbolic doomsdayers have been consistently wrong with it comes to predicting future gun laws and further bans.

So much for a supposedly "spineless" Republican congress, ehh?

If the republicans had a spine, they would end the practice of giving unelected bureacrats power to make laws unconstitutionally.
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