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Re: Oliver North to be NRA Pres.
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2018, 09:57:06 AM »
Quote from: French G. on May 08, 2018, 09:37:17 AM
Clarke unsettles me. We like him because politics or something, but if you always have to be on TV in uniform and such, why? Join the military. He seems way too in love with himself and state power. With him, Sheriff Joe, and coward Israel I am leant towards automatically distrusting any tv cop.

Good guys, especially good politicians, are few and far between in Milwaukee county, Clarke was one a f them.
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Re: Oliver North to be NRA Pres.
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2018, 11:12:13 AM »
Quote from: French G. on May 08, 2018, 09:37:17 AM
Clarke unsettles me. We like him because politics or something, but if you always have to be on TV in uniform and such, why? Join the military. He seems way too in love with himself and state power. With him, Sheriff Joe, and coward Israel I am leant towards automatically distrusting any tv cop.

Didn't Clarke voluntarily step down a year or so ago?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Clarke_(sheriff)
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Re: Oliver North to be NRA Pres.
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2018, 12:33:24 PM »
Quote from: French G. on May 08, 2018, 09:37:17 AM
Clarke unsettles me. We like him because politics or something, but if you always have to be on TV in uniform and such, why? Join the military. He seems way too in love with himself and state power. With him, Sheriff Joe, and coward Israel I am leant towards automatically distrusting any tv cop.

Quoted for truth.  I have always gotten an uneasy feeling about him as well.
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Re: Oliver North to be NRA Pres.
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2018, 01:36:44 PM »
North was on the National Security Council in the White House at the time, not the Pentagon.  Congress (controlled by D's) had passed the treasonous Boland Amendment which prohibited aid to the Contra's in Nicaragua.   

He sold (older) TOW missiles to to Iran (in the middle of the Iraq-Iran War) to encourage them to help get hostages in Lebanon released and the proceeds were used to fund the Contra's.   While I'm not happy that he sold missiles to Iran, at least it wasn't pallets of cash and we were playing both sides as we were also selling weapons to Iraq.

He's been very active with NRA for many years now, and is very, very pro-2A.   One of the best speeches he's given at an NRA Annual Meeting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLOjIKt7wOk
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Re: Oliver North to be NRA Pres.
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2018, 01:42:43 PM »
Quote from: French G. on May 08, 2018, 09:37:17 AM
Clarke unsettles me. We like him because politics or something, but if you always have to be on TV in uniform and such, why? Join the military.


Wait, what? Why would a sheriff join the military, to be on TV, or to be in uniform?  ???
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Re: Oliver North to be NRA Pres.
« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2018, 02:07:57 PM »
Quote from: Amy Schumer on May 08, 2018, 01:36:44 PM
North was on the National Security Council in the White House at the time, not the Pentagon.  Congress (controlled by D's) had passed the treasonous Boland Amendment which prohibited aid to the Contra's in Nicaragua.  

He sold (older) TOW missiles to to Iran (in the middle of the Iraq-Iran War) to encourage them to help get hostages in Lebanon released and the proceeds were used to fund the Contra's.   While I'm not happy that he sold missiles to Iran, at least it wasn't pallets of cash and we were playing both sides as we were also selling weapons to Iraq.

He's been very active with NRA for many years now, and is very, very pro-2A.   One of the best speeches he's given at an NRA Annual Meeting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLOjIKt7wOk


Actually that bold part is mostly false. It was widely claimed around the time of the second Iraq war especially by Michael Moore; but the US never really sold weapons to Iraq. We did assist with intelligence. There was a sale of non military helicopters, and there were some potential deals that were never completed. The vast majority of weapons sales was Russia and France, followed by other European countries and South Africa and the like. There used to be a paper publicly available that I’ve lost track of that listed sales of all weapons by country of Origin to Iraq. - This is the site http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/page/trade_register.php

I probably wouldn’t have picked North, I’m not really sure what his opinion on various firearms issues are. I seem to recall conflicting or maybe evolving opinions on so called assault weapons. I may be misremembering though.
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Re: Oliver North to be NRA Pres.
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2018, 02:21:59 PM »
I guess I would backtrack a little and say I have no issue with the pick.  I had no idea he was active with the NRA and it surprised me.  I will have to listen to that speech.
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« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2018, 03:48:06 PM »
All I know is that he'll make the left collectively lose their sheet.
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« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2018, 05:20:15 PM »
Quote from: Amy Schumer on May 08, 2018, 03:48:06 PM
All I know is that he'll make the left collectively lose their sheet.

And that is good enough for me.
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Re: Oliver North to be NRA Pres.
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2018, 09:00:46 PM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on May 08, 2018, 05:20:15 PM
And that is good enough for me.


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Re: Oliver North to be NRA Pres.
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2018, 02:13:21 AM »
Quote from: Hawkmoon on May 08, 2018, 02:36:38 AM
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French G. remarked, "If you think a trump tweet triggers the media people grab your popcorn and melt some extra butter."

Yeah, my first thought was that it gives the left another chance to crank their slander machines up to eleven.

North is a horrible pick, for this reason.

I said "slander machine," which is apparently becoming their own undoing.  Or I hope so anyhow.

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