Who will win in 2020?

[WLJ]

Jake Tapper, "journalist" at the unbiased CNN:

He doesn't seem to mention that for half the country, a new nightmare has begun.

It's okay, it's not their half

[Ben]

I'm disappointed in Fox News as well, under the Murdoch boys. Good media doesn't influence elections. Here's the Epoch Times statement:

Our nation is moving into uncharted territory as multiple legal challenges have been filed in response to the 2020 elections, with more challenges expected to come.

Both candidates have claimed victory in certain states, but it appears increasingly likely that this election will be resolved in the courts.

For that reason, The Epoch Times will not declare a winner of the 2020 presidential election until all results are certified and any legal challenges are resolved.

We encourage you to read our ongoing coverage as our reporters cover all developments over the next weeks and months.

[WLJ]

Exactly how I feel. There are aspects of this election that smell like a Chinese fish market.
Maybe this is what this country needs, just how corrupt the election process has become in this country laid bare in court and hopefully drag much of the MSM and their complicity down with it.

[Ben]

I guess the best news about this is that covid is now officially over.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/11/07/is-covid-over-chuck-schumer-joins-packed-brooklyn-celebration-media-super-spreader-scolds-begin-vacation/

[Viking]

Exactly how I feel. There are aspects of this election that smell like a Chinese fish market.
Maybe this is what this country needs, just how corrupt the election process has become in this country laid bare in court and hopefully drag much of the MSM and their complicity down with it.

From everything I have read, the election process in several states raises questions and eyebrows. I will not call it fraud yet because I have no actual evidence but it sure looks sketchy as hell. However, IF it is fraud, and IF they get away with it - you all might as well throw in the towel. It won't be the last time. You'll go from "probably Banana Republic" to "definetly a Banana Republic". No Republican will ever get elected again for anything, ever.

[kgbsquirrel]

I guess the best news about this is that covid is now officially over.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/11/07/is-covid-over-chuck-schumer-joins-packed-brooklyn-celebration-media-super-spreader-scolds-begin-vacation/

Called it.

[RoadKingLarry]

Resist 46.

#notmypedophile

[AmbulanceDriver]

My worry is this scenario:

Media has declared Biden the winner, while all of the legal challenges sit unresolved. Let's say it all gets collected into one major legal action that goes all the way to SCOTUS, and there's enough evidence for SCOTUS to say the election results are too tainted by fraud to be certified.

First, what's the possible remedy?  A do-over? Absent some undisclosed mechanism of separating valid ballots from fraudulent I don't see any other remedy.  That will be disruptive to say the least.

Second, if you think the rioting, etc are bad now, what do you think that would look like if SCOTUS overturns the election results due to fraud

[MillCreek]

Other than the conservative social media bubble, there is little objective evidence of widespread election fraud that would withstand legal scrutiny. Conservatives will blame the MSM and say that the system is rigged. The wider American society does not seem to share this opinion. Thoughts that state or Federal courts will overturn the results are a fantasy.

[French G.]

Y'all too gloomy. The shitshow is just starting. Even ignoring the possibility of Biden not winning, just imagine this mess. Cabinet selection, finding the mostest liberalist to replace Harris in Senate, the weakened D Congress over-reaching, the eventual Sus as hell replacement of Biden.

Not to mention the Georgia run-offs. Massive fraud, hate, discontent that eventually end with two R senators and ol Mitch pops out of his turtle shell to cause apoplectic fits for another term.

Then the midterms.  This is going to be glorious, it's their high water mark.

[WLJ]

[BlueStarLizzard]

I'll just leave this here. I wonder if the elitist left will realize how true the last line really is? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODKZGBrAtxY

[DittoHead]

Other than the conservative social media bubble, there is little objective evidence of widespread election fraud that would withstand legal scrutiny.

If they have any so far, they certainly haven't been bringing it to court with them.

Since Election Day, the Trump campaign has brought a series of lawsuits around the country in an effort to find a path to reelection, but four judges in different states have now weighed in with striking consistency and similar language -- finding there is no sufficient evidence to back the claims.

[Ron]

Don't believe your lying eyes and common sense.

Believe the media, the left and our own fifth column here at APS.

At least half the country voted for Trump and believe the game was rigged.

Maybe some of our members here like a different bubble, one that tends to the left.

[DittoHead]

At least half the country voted for Trump and believe the game was rigged.

I don't think anyone believes that, regardless of their bubble.

[Angel Eyes]

https://babylonbee.com/news/69-million-trump-supporters-take-to-streets-to-go-to-work-like-usual

[TommyGunn]

Other than the conservative social media bubble, there is little objective evidence of widespread election fraud that would withstand legal scrutiny. Conservatives will blame the MSM and say that the system is rigged. The wider American society does not seem to share this opinion. Thoughts that state or Federal courts will overturn the results are a fantasy.

One blatant fraud is courts extending the period of states to accept ballots that were mailed.  The U. S. Constitution gives plenary authority to the states' legislatures to decide how the state conducts voting and ballot tabulation.  That means the courts, the governors, mayors,  girl scouts and troglodytes don't get to change it.

There are a number of other serious concerns about the election.  I'd not be so free as to dismiss them, saying "there is little objective evidence,"  because a number of them sound very serious,  and some "conservative social media bubbles" (such as Mark Levin, for example)  have made excellent cases for the courts to hear some matters ..... but Trump's case(s)  do have a serious uphill battle ahead, and should be heard.  

So,  we're in for 5 weeks of ^&€£¥£÷@'^_^^^■■{}◇[♧⊙°°•Â¤Â¿ and all sorts of   stiersheisse.

[Angel Eyes]

So,  we're in for 5 weeks of ^&€£¥£÷@'^_^^^■■{}◇[♧⊙°°•Â¤Â¿ and all sorts of   stiersheisse.

We'll see if they can break the record set by the Democrats in 2000.   It was 37 days IIRC.

[Hawkmoon]

At least half the country voted for Trump and believe the game was rigged.

I don't think anyone believes that, regardless of their bubble.

You don't think half the country voted for Trump, or you don't think anyone believes the game was rigged?

I'm quite certain the game was rigged. I guess that means I'm not anyone, right?

[Angel Eyes]

In the midst of all this disappointment, I thought I'd share a little good news:

https://www.guns.com/news/2020/11/06/nfa-reform-minded-gun-store-owner-headed-to-congress

[DittoHead]

You don't think half the country voted for Trump

No, I'm pretty confident of that.
Final totals aren't in yet, but it breaks down roughly like this:
¹/₃ voted for Biden
¹/₃ voted for Trump
¹/₃ didn't vote.

[Ron]

No, I'm pretty confident of that.
Final totals aren't in yet, but it breaks down roughly like this:
¹/₃ voted for Biden
¹/₃ voted for Trump
¹/₃ didn't vote.

Ok smart alec, half the voters.

Half the country who bothered to vote within a 3% margin one way or "maybe" the other.

The left owns the institutions so you side with the subverted institutions, you've chosen your bubble.

[Ben]

It has been somewhat ironic to watch as people like me are made fun of / scolded for getting our frustrations out saying stuff like "resist 46". At the same time, I see that businesses in all the big cities in the US are removing barricades from their buildings. These were supposedly constructed to prevent destruction by the far right, white supremacists, and militias.

Biden won. Why are these barricades coming down? I guess we know who the real sore losers are.

[K Frame]

Looks like in the euphoria of PedoJoe becoming sniffer in chief that some Democrats are sounding warning bells...

Abagail Spanberger almost lost her seat in Virginia, and she called out the party as a whole, and the squad specifically (not by name, but by policy) for adopting rhetoric (defund the police and hard moves towards socialism) that resulted in some surprising losses for the Dems, including Donna Shalalah in Florida.

https://www.wric.com/news/politics/spanberger-calls-congressional-election-results-a-failure-for-house-democrats/

Dems and a lot of pollsters predicted another Blue Wave, and the Dems were wondering what it would like to have a super majority in the house after they picked up a predicted 15 to 25 seats...

The blue wave turned into more of a blue backwash.

I can only hope that the Squad keeps trying to force their pet policies through the Democratic party because it could result, as Spanberger notes, in the party being torn to shreds in 2022...

[dogmush]

Ok smart alec, half the voters.

Half the country who bothered to vote within a 3% margin one way or "maybe" the other.

The left owns the institutions so you side with the subverted institutions, you've chosen your bubble.

When we are discussing things like possible resistance and how the public, especially the rioting class might take outcomes it's important to be specific.

Wiki says there approx 240,000,000 eligible voters in the US.  So of the people  that could have voted for him he got about 30%.

Less than 1/4 of the people in the US cast a vote for Trump.  You should factor that into any boogaloo planning.