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Politics / Re: Biden showing more symptoms . . .
« Last post by RocketMan on Today at 10:09:12 AM »
The folks that control the Democrat party must have a "Plan B" ready to implement just any day now.  They cannot seriously think Biden is capable of going through another election cycle and being President for another four years.  Granted he's just a puppet at the moment, but it's obvious his usefulness in that role is fast coming to an end.
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Politics / Re: Israel Under Attack
« Last post by dogmush on Today at 09:56:36 AM »
^^^

That is not a surprise to anyone that has actually met an Arab.  (or Persian, or Pashtun for that matter)

I have often remarked that the west doesn't really understand tribalisim.
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The Roundtable / Re: How was your flight?
« Last post by RocketMan on Today at 09:52:35 AM »
My seatbelt is always on comfortably tight whenever my butt is in the seat.  I've been on enough turbulent screaming passenger flights over the years so that practice has been engraved on my brain.  The planes themselves are built to handle most stresses short of flying through a supercell, so that factor doesn't worry me much.  Piloting fubars flying in turbulence worry me more.
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Politics / Re: The RIFLE Act
« Last post by Pb on Today at 09:07:57 AM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on May 20, 2024, 08:57:46 AM
Does this act reopen the machine gun registry?   


no
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The Roundtable / Re: Buck Shot
« Last post by MechAg94 on Today at 09:02:53 AM »
Quote from: Bogie on Today at 12:34:15 AM
So, the news has a story on right now about a psycho escaping from a transport, and it happened a half mile from your house!
 
Now... you have the choice between a .32 that holds 9 shots, and a .25 with a frickin' gigglestick and da switch...

My issue with that analogy is normal name-brand 12 gauge has a good bit higher velocity than 32 acp or 25 acp.  1200 to 1300 FPS is normal.  over 1100 FPS for the cheaper stuff.  I thought both of those pistol calibers were under 1000 FPS.

Edit to add:  Wiki says up to 900 FPS for 25 acp and up to 1100 FPS for 32 acp.

IMO, the benefit or trauma is 9 or 20 pellets hitting the target at the same time making separate would tracks (or one big ragged hole at short range). 
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The Roundtable / Re: Buck Shot
« Last post by MechAg94 on Today at 09:01:23 AM »
Quote from: Ben on Today at 08:40:28 AM
Certainly distance plays a large part. While some guys might, I don't take shots at geese at more than 50 yards with BB. I'm kinda curious if anybody on the youtubes has bought a bundle of the $25 drones on Amazon and tried to shoot them down at various altitudes/speeds with different shotgun loads. If they haven't, maybe Garand Thumb should. It sounds like "science" right up his alley. I know he's done one where they were hunted by a drone, but I don't think they shot back, because it was an expensive drone.
Irangetv did a video, but mentioned some legal issues with doing that.  I think it was around being licensed to fly drones rather than shooting at them. 

My thought is something on the order of a goose gun with shot meant for longer range.  I was thinking some 3" heavy tungsten shot or whatever is similar. 
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The Roundtable / Re: Buck Shot
« Last post by Ben on Today at 08:40:28 AM »
Quote from: bedlamite on Today at 08:02:59 AM
Timing how long it takes for grenades to drop in Ukraine, they are 150-200 ft up. Even #2 birdshot is a little weak at that altitude.

Certainly distance plays a large part. While some guys might, I don't take shots at geese at more than 50 yards with BB. I'm kinda curious if anybody on the youtubes has bought a bundle of the $25 drones on Amazon and tried to shoot them down at various altitudes/speeds with different shotgun loads. If they haven't, maybe Garand Thumb should. It sounds like "science" right up his alley. I know he's done one where they were hunted by a drone, but I don't think they shot back, because it was an expensive drone.
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Politics / Re: Israel Under Attack
« Last post by K Frame on Today at 08:23:42 AM »
"Egypt gives zero *expletive deleted*s if a couple million Palestinians have to die..."

It's pretty evident that virtually none of the Arab countries in the Middle East really care about the Palestinians, and just see them as a convenient tool.
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The Roundtable / Re: Buck Shot
« Last post by bedlamite on Today at 08:02:59 AM »
Timing how long it takes for grenades to drop in Ukraine, they are 150-200 ft up. Even #2 birdshot is a little weak at that altitude.
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The Roundtable / Re: Buck Shot
« Last post by K Frame on Today at 08:01:08 AM »
No. 4 buck has been my round of choice for home defense since I bought my home in 1993.

27 .24-caliber pellets is going to ruin the hell out of someone's day at household distance.

If I do ever need something heavier, there's the 5 rounds of 00 buck in the carrier. It's not the standard load, it's got an extra layer of 00 pellets, for a total payload of 12. Done with a roll crimp and card overwad.
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