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The Roundtable / Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Last post by Hawkmoon on Today at 08:43:45 AM »
Quote from: Ben on Today at 08:05:55 AM
No, Paleo is the "hunter/gatherer" diet, where you eat stuff people would have eaten before farming. So meats, fish, fruits, vegetables, nuts, etc.

So, like, in other words ... healthy food?
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Politics / Re: 2024 Meltdown and Meme Thread
« Last post by Ben on Today at 08:30:38 AM »
I can't figure out if Anonymous is saying that Trump will have people sleeping in tents or if they are threatening to create a situation that has people sleeping in tents.

https://twitchy.com/chad-felix-greene/2025/03/23/buy-a-tent-now-the-new-anonymous-goes-full-doomsday-prepper-in-newest-conspiracy-rant-n2410332
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The Roundtable / Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Last post by Ben on Today at 08:05:55 AM »
Quote from: Perd Hapley on Today at 12:41:58 AM
Is that the paleo diet one hears about? I never looked into it because it just seemed silly to me. I thought humans were omnivores, not carnivores. I mean, grains and vegetables were a staple of the human diet long before there was a USDA food pyramid.

No, Paleo is the "hunter/gatherer" diet, where you eat stuff people would have eaten before farming. So meats, fish, fruits, vegetables, nuts, etc.
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Politics / Re: Maybe we should just start a The World Has Gone Mad thread
« Last post by K Frame on Today at 07:36:26 AM »
Quote from: Ben on March 21, 2025, 09:39:27 AM
Interesting demographics.

Cockroaches.
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The Roundtable / Re: Roofing question
« Last post by K Frame on Today at 07:27:09 AM »
Quote from: JTHunter on Today at 12:00:29 AM
Bogie - if the rest of the roof is in decent shape, it might be faster, easier, and less expensive to just patch it.  It depends on how old and how good those shingles are now.
Steel is more durable BUT, imagine being inside a large drum and somebody pouring BBs on the drumhead for HOURS.


The house I grew up in had a steel roof. It was quite a bit larger than Bogie's place (3 full stories) and rain on the roof could be kind of pleasant sounding.

That changed a bit when there was hail, but fortunately that was pretty infrequent.


I replaced my roof back in 2019. I would have gone with a metal roof were I younger and just moving into the house, but the extra expense just wasn't worth it with my intending to move in a few years.

The secret to a good metal roof without the noise is to use a sound absorbing backing material, insulation that also serves as a sound barrier in the attic space, and other potential mitigations.

The reason Terry's experience with "metal roofs" was so negative is because Quanset huts had none of that.
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The Roundtable / Re: Roofing question
« Last post by K Frame on Today at 07:24:19 AM »
"It appears to be about 6:12, which is what my house it."

Agreed. That's what I was thinking when I saw the picture.

That's about 25 degrees, and that is the ragged edge of what someone without experience or the proper equipment should attempt to work on.

I painted steel roof on the house I grew up in back in the 1980s. I was roped off, took my time, was VERY careful, but it was still a gold plated bitch.

There were multiple roof slopes. Several (smaller sections, thank God, that were pretty quick and easy to deal with) were closer to 10:12 pitch, but most of it was in the 6 to 8:12 pitch.

A day of working on that was some of the most tiring work I've ever done. The 7-8 days it took me to clean, prep, and paint the roof? I'm still feeling it nearly 50 years later. :rofl:
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Politics / Re: Second Amendment/ATF related issues (Discussion thread)
« Last post by Ron on Today at 06:19:46 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/atf-game-changer-gun-rights-scholar-nabs-chief-counsel-post

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The addition of 2A Attorney and Legal Scholar Robert Leider (
@LeiderRob
) to this key role under
@FBIDirectorKash
 could be a sign that the ATF’s continued anti-gun litigation is about to come to an end.
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The Roundtable / Re: Roofing question
« Last post by Hawkmoon on Today at 04:33:09 AM »
Quote from: 230RN on March 23, 2025, 10:24:36 PM
Same philosophy here, but drew the lines for the triangle, used the three basic "Gee, I'm A Tree" methods (SOH-CAH-TOA), got three different results due to vagaries of constructing the lines.  Basic one was 28.99 degrees for the roof angle, which translates to 5.82 inches per foot slope.  I don't trust that result, but it's in the ball park, anyhow.

Perspective may affect it, since the angle of the camera is slightly upward rather than straight on. 5.82 in/ft is probably pretty close, but no captentar is going to frame a roof to a decimal increment like that. It's 5:12 or 6:12, and 5.82 is a lot closer to 6:12.

And that's steeper than I want to work on in my old age.
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The Roundtable / Re: Roofing question
« Last post by 230RN on Today at 03:27:40 AM »
While at CU, Wife1 and I lived in apartments, but the On-Campus married student housing was steel quonset huts.  We knew some couples living in the huts and I want to tell you, a good rainstorm or worse, a hail storm made a horrendous noise.  Avoid steel roofing if possible.

They were milsurp just like these:

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The Roundtable / Re: Roofing question
« Last post by tokugawa on Today at 01:56:31 AM »
A simple roof like yours could be done pretty quick in steel.

Lots of times a steel roof installer will quote a square foot price, you might get a better deal if they know it is a simple two pitch roof with very little cutting.

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