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Badger light tactical vehicle
« on: May 28, 2013, 11:59:27 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/05/22/meet-boeings-phantom-badger-light-tactical-vehicle/?intcmp=obnetwork

Saw this link and all I could think of was "Did we just basically return to the original Jeep?" 

I was also curious if the Osprey is big enough to carry the up armored version since that will be requried as soon as one gets hit by a bomb. 

Is "mission-specific modules" the current buzz word/catch phrase at the Pentagon?  I see that phrase quite a bit related to just about every new military item. 
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2013, 12:06:00 PM »
4 wheel steering and race inspired suspension?

That ain't no Willys.

It ain't quite this...



But it's a long ways from this:

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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 12:53:13 PM »
Similar to a USGI jeep but better mobility. I like it.
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2013, 01:52:43 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on May 28, 2013, 11:59:27 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/05/22/meet-boeings-phantom-badger-light-tactical-vehicle/?intcmp=obnetwork

Saw this link and all I could think of was "Did we just basically return to the original Jeep?" 

I was also curious if the Osprey is big enough to carry the up armored version since that will be requried as soon as one gets hit by a bomb. 

Is "mission-specific modules" the current buzz word/catch phrase at the Pentagon?  I see that phrase quite a bit related to just about every new military item. 

Yes.  Just modernized.  We are spending a lot of time in raggedy shitholistans with tight city streets and alleys.  And transportable by the V22 internally means this could be inserted way behind enemy lines off of a light carrier, giving Marines or Specops some serious mobility.  Equip it with a pole mount fifty or Mk19 and a good standing platform in the back. 
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2013, 02:02:10 PM »
I've been thinking for a while that all these civilian UTV's (2 seats side by side and a little cargo bed) are basically filling a market niche that used to be surplus jeeps and the old simple CJ's.

Just what the military needs - a $100K ATV  :lol:
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2013, 02:06:47 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on May 28, 2013, 02:02:10 PM
I've been thinking for a while that all these civilian UTV's (2 seats side by side and a little cargo bed) are basically filling a market niche that used to be surplus jeeps and the old simple CJ's.

Just what the military needs - a $100K ATV  :lol:

Those are in use by the .mil but they have drawbacks...durability being one of them, plus reliability, mobility (a 6x6 Polaris does not turn well) etc.
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2013, 03:05:05 PM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on May 28, 2013, 12:06:00 PM



WANT. I assume that's one of a kind, though. (If it's not 'shopped.)
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2013, 03:12:27 PM »
Quote from: makattak on May 28, 2013, 03:05:05 PM
WANT. I assume that's one of a kind, though. (If it's not 'shopped.)

Can't you tell by the pixels and having seen a lot of 'shops in your time?

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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2013, 03:19:55 PM »
Isn't that a Halo Warthog replica, the most beloved vehicle in the game?
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2013, 03:21:02 PM »
How about something like this?



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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2013, 03:24:25 PM »
Quote from: drewtam on May 28, 2013, 03:19:55 PM
Isn't that a Halo Warthog replica, the most beloved vehicle in the game?

Winner winner, chicken dinner.

Quote from: scout26 on May 28, 2013, 03:21:02 PM
How about something like this?

http://sobchak.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/fav02.jpeg

Everything old is new again.

What is THAT, and where can I get two of 'em for play time?
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 03:36:58 PM »
Back in the 1980's the 9th Infantry Division (Motorized) up at Ft. Lewis was the Army's Testbed Organization.  They got all kinds of fun gizmos and toys to play with.  (I went there for ROTC Advance Camp.  Great fun.)  Anywho, that there is a Fast Attack Vehicle.  M60 Machine gun mounted on the main body for the assistant driver and a Mk19 Grenade Launcher up top for the gunner.   IIRC, some even had TOW missiles mounted on them, since 9ID was somewhat light in the Armor department (I believe they did have one, maybe two Armor battalions in 9ID, as opposed to zero in the truly "light" divisions and five or six in the Mechanized or Armor Divisions.)

Yes, they were fun as hell to drive.
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2013, 04:07:51 PM »
That's just a simple sand rail, outfitted for military use.

A 'jeep' light vehicle will have more utility then that.  Add a trailer for hauling gear and you've got a vehicle capable of hauling 4 heavily armed Marines or troopers all over the place.  You want to piss off the enemy? Send the Marines.  You want to *expletive deleted*ck them up? Send the Marines and make them mobile!
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2013, 04:34:37 PM »
Yeah, looks like a sand rail.

Driver's head would be in the gunner's junk were that for real.
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2013, 05:41:26 PM »
Quote from: Gewehr98 on May 28, 2013, 04:34:37 PM
Yeah, looks like a sand rail.

Driver's head would be in the gunner's junk were that for real.

This design clears that up a bit, though still tight quarters:

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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2013, 07:18:45 PM »
I disagree with this being a far cry from the Jeep.  It is just modernized and upgraded.  I assume it also has an automatic transmission since no one seems to know how to drive one anymore.  I like the idea. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2013, 08:09:56 PM »
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2013, 08:28:11 PM »
Yep, Spec Ops guys still use them.   Modern day Rat Patrol!
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2013, 09:13:13 PM »
Quote from: Gowen on May 28, 2013, 08:09:56 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaforce

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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2013, 09:45:21 PM »
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2013, 10:15:18 PM »
Quote from: AJ Dual on May 28, 2013, 09:45:21 PM
Another Badger tactical vehicle...

That's not a tank.  It purports to be an armored personnel carrier, but it looks light in the armor department.  Thank goodness it is being marketed to law enforcement - as a friendlier version of the M113 with a battering ram mounted?

As for the OP's "Badger" - it needs to haul 4 combat-loaded troops (with as many as 3 more hanging off the sides & back) plus either a 1/4-ton trailer or whatever passes these days for an anti-tank gun or pack howitzer.  Forget about up-armoring them.  There are no sides that would have to sustain a pressure wave.  The roll bars need to be much higher, with provisions for mounting some sort of automatic weapon and tie-ins for a harness for the gunner - like this http://www.hnsa.org/doc/gun20mm/ .

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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2013, 10:21:58 PM »
IIRC the Howe & Howe Badger, it withstood some hefty charges, and even some .50 BMG shots.  That's better than some spots on some relatively modern APC's.

But yeah, whoever titled the YouTube vid, Simply by having treads/tracks does not equal "tank".  ;/

The little thing is so tiny from the effort to make it fit through many/most residential & commercial doorways and openings, I'm not sure what it can do other than drive somewhere and make a nuisance of itself. Maybe toss a CS canister out of a port or something.  =D

Paint it orange, and have a puppet show out the side with Star Wars action figures, Jawas auctioning off C-3P0 and R2D2 to Owen Lars.  =D
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2013, 10:31:48 PM »
Quote from: Marnoot on May 28, 2013, 05:41:26 PM
This design clears that up a bit, though still tight quarters:



I'd love to take that jumping the dunes at Pismo Beach!  
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Re: Badger light tactical vehicle
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2013, 11:06:15 PM »
Recipe: One Hilux plus whatever appropriately sized gun you like. Sling it under the Oopsprey instead of insisting on RORO and you've got something.
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