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AK optics: the right and wrong way
« on: August 09, 2011, 12:44:26 AM »
Browsing AK stuff on arfcom and ran across these. The difference is striking...



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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 12:48:06 AM »
So which do you prefer?
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 12:49:55 AM »
My sniper-drako wears a 4-16x52 CounterSniper scope. 
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 12:50:20 AM »
So which do you prefer?

I am guessing the side-mount.

THe dust cover was never meant to mount optics.
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 12:56:08 AM »
The Russian military is currently considering moving to rails on all of their stuff. Izhmash has already spawned berailed AKs.

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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 01:19:22 AM »
Poles beat them to it with the Beryl rail. The one in that pic is from here, seems like a good product. http://texasweaponsystems.com/
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 01:53:11 AM »
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The Russian military is currently considering moving to rails on all of their stuff. Izhmash has already spawned berailed AKs.

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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 10:25:35 AM »
My sniper-drako wears a 4-16x52 CounterSniper scope. 

Oh yeah? Mine has an orage tip!
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 10:35:18 AM »
The Bulgarian AKSU clone..No such thing as a "Krinkov", that's an American appellation it picked up somewhere, it's common Russian nickname is "Suchka", I leave it to Micro to translate... has such a early generation Russian/Soviet night vision device on it, which is why it's so large/long. It's probably not a high magnificatin scope, if it's not 1X.

So it's a little less silly than it initially appears.

I am guessing the side-mount.

THe dust cover was never meant to mount optics.

If you just bolt a chunk of rail to a standard AK/AKM dust cover, then yes. However there are many dust cover options out there that are more than rigid enough for acceptable combat accuracy, amd. The Texas Weapons System is such an example. It has two locking points, it's hinged on the front sight base, and it has a modified rear locking latch. The sides of the dust cover are also have spring loaded tabs to grip the receiver flats tightly as well.


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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2011, 10:35:34 AM »
Browsing AK stuff on arfcom and ran across these. The difference ais striking...


With all those rails, one could rasp their way through obstacles.

I have an Ultimak rail with a cheap red dot, on mine.  It'll do, for what a WASR is good for.

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The Russian military is currently considering moving to rails on all of their stuff. Izhmash has already spawned berailed AKs.

So, do it well enough, and probably anchored on both ends, and it's stable?
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2011, 10:39:43 AM »
So which do you prefer?

Ultimak rail on the front with an Aimpoint Micro.

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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 12:15:26 PM »
"Suchka"
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2011, 01:12:26 PM »
Female canine of small stature

Little bitch?

Is that the Russian version of, "Say hello to my little friend?"
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2011, 02:07:00 PM »
Little bitch?
Yeppers.

Is that the Russian version of, "Say hello to my little friend?"
Not really, but it could be. First, there is a little phonetic similarity between "aksu" and "suchka", in a kind of a pig-Latin way. Second, it is fairly small. Third, it's loud and got some bite to it.
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2011, 02:11:37 PM »
So, is it pronounced sooka, suckah, or something different?
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2011, 02:13:36 PM »
Oh yeah? Mine has an orage tip!

Damn you, beat me to it. :laugh:
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2011, 03:11:55 PM »
So, is it pronounced sooka, suckah, or something different?


I was reading it as sooch-kah. Paging MicroBalrog.....

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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2011, 04:09:11 PM »
The squirrel has it.

Sooo, like in poodle.

chkah, like in anatolian.

Suka - the larger female canine - is pronounced along the same principles.
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2011, 09:46:03 AM »
Ultimak rail on the front with an Aimpoint Micro.


Aren't the Ultimaks a little steep on pricing?  Also, do they insulate the optic from the barrel heat at all?
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2011, 09:49:53 AM »
Poles beat them to it with the Beryl rail. The one in that pic is from here, seems like a good product. http://texasweaponsystems.com/
I need to try that.  I have had a Kobra side mounted red dot on my Vepr for a while, but last time I pulled it out, the ON lever broke off when I tried to turn it on.  That makes it pretty useless.  I haven't been able to figure out who still sells them.  A good rail option would solve my problem and might actually be a bit lighter than the side mounts.  A half way decent AIMpoint would be great. 

I also have a 5.45 AK that has no side rail.
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2011, 09:51:43 AM »
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2011, 09:57:01 AM »
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2011, 10:39:01 AM »
Ultimaks do not shield the optic from the heat.
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2011, 11:45:09 AM »
Ultimaks do not shield the optic from the heat.
That is what I figured.  I tried one of those barrel clamp-on rails once and my EOTech got very hot.
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Re: AK optics: the right and wrong way
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2011, 12:33:05 PM »
That is what I figured.  I tried one of those barrel clamp-on rails once and my EOTech got very hot.

Yeah, it's a clever solution but I'm just not comfortable with that much heat going into my optic...
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