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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: zahc on July 25, 2010, 03:08:32 PM
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I'm starting to get very, very fed up with blue jeans.
Last couple times I've gone shopping for jeans, I found out that it's nearly impossible to find ones that aren't purposely faded, have ironed-in wrinkles, or holes in them. Really, practically all of them have a faded pattern to the material. None of them look new. I don't know what the fashion trends are right now, but I have no interest in jeans that have been purposely manipulated for looks, period. It offends me.
My problem with jean fit, is that I have a big butt, basically, but I don't have a beer belly. So all factory-made jeans that fit my waist are far too tight in the seat. The only choice I have is to get ones that are far too large, and belt the waist up. This looks ugly as hell, and the fabric bunches up under the belt. When I was in my teens, I used to wear women's jeans, and they fit pretty well, but the waist height of women's jeans has moved far too low since then, so they are right out. I have had some success with boot-cut jeans from Old Navy, but I don't wear boots or enjoy the bell-bottom look, and now all (and I mean ALL) the Old Navy jeans are purposely broken for looks. What's more, waist heights seem to be creeping down as well, making me feel like I need to pull my pants up all the time.
So my jean problem has been getting worse and worse. In the past, I have been able to find some that fit well enough to live with. But the problem now, is that the state of the jeans market is so bad that by the time I discard 90% of the offerings, my chances of finding anything that fit are about zero. And this is a big problem, because a guy kind of needs something to wear. I am looking into either buying jeans and having them tailored, or just having custom jeans made. Or making them myself.
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If you're in the northwest, look around for a BiMart or somewhere else that sells Wranglers. Got a couple pair a few weeks ago, and these are some of the best fitting jeans I've owned. They come in good ol' dark, brand-new lookin' indigo, and they're quite inexpensive. The painter style are currently on sale at BiMart for $15.99
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Walmart Faded Glory or Wranglers. Both cheap, good quality, and come in a standard jeans blue color, also many "relaxed fit" style size options.
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I second the wranglers recommendation, all of my work jeans are wranglers and they last me way longer than the Old Navy jeans I used to buy.
That said, you really need to go somewhere that has a TON of jeans (maybe a Gap or Levi's store if you have one), and just spend an hour trying them all on. Talk to the girls who work there, they're used to all kinds of questions and are frequently bored and happy to help. Then when you find a pair you like, buy as many as you can afford, because chances are you'll never find it again.
If you're really can't find the right pair, get as close as you can and have it tailored. A really nice pair of jeans tailored for you will look amazing and last forever, but is by far the most expensive option.
Or try and find out where Obama gets his mom-butt jeans.
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I've quit wearing jeans because I can't find any that holds up for more than a few months before there's atleast one huge hole worn out in the groin/ass-area. Also because I can never find any that fits me properly either. Chinos, Dickies, cargo pants and similar is what I buy nowadays...
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I've quit wearing jeans because I can't find any that holds up for more than a few months before there's at least one huge hole worn out in the groin/ass-area.
I'm kinda afraid to ask....
:P :laugh:
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I'm kinda afraid to ask....
:P :laugh:
My secret mutant power - corrosive farts :P.
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Hm interesting. As I get older (71, now), my body mass seems to be settling toward "the bottom," resulting in the classic male wedge-shaped torso, except the wedge is upside-down nowadays.
I briefly thought of trying on some women's pants to see how they fit, but immediately, instantly, and unequivocally dismissed the thought. I may think some more about that...
...Nah.
I gave up on jeans a long time ago when the trend toward metro-worn-out knees and pre-fading started.
I make gun cases out of canvas, and I suspect that you will need a heavy-duty sewing machine to make your own jeans with the doubled-over seams. My standard sewing machine barely makes it through three or four layers of canvas, sometimes needing some extra torque applied to the wheel --or whatever they call it. Illustration is of a small auto case with mag pouch I make for my small autos and other guns. I made a rifle case for my varmint rifle out of canvas back in the early 70s, just for taking it from the car to the field, and by cracky, I never use a regular store-boughten case for it anymore.
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By the way, there's a really surprising amount of engineering that goes into sewing stuff.
Terry, 230RN
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My problem with jean fit, is that I have a big butt, basically, but I don't have a beer belly. So all factory-made jeans that fit my waist are far too tight in the seat.
I have the opposite problem, compounded by the fact that I'm just over 6' 6" tall. It is *really* hard to find fat man jeans with long leg.
Best jeans I've found anywhere are the house brand at Cabela's. And I can actually get sturdy demin or canvas jeans that are long enough for about $20 a pair. Sometimes cheaper when they are on sale.
If Cabela's has something you can wear, the price will be right and they are well-made.
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Carharrt relaxed fit. The first thing to wear on them is the spot were my muzzle sits in the bottom of my pocket. Takes quite a while for that to happen but then one day you notice this muzzle sticking out of the pant leg. It's good to catch it before anybody else does. Then I just sew the pocket corner up and they're good for a few more miles. ;)
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Carhart or Dickies. Both make good, tough jeans in a couple of "relaxed fit" styles in classic blue. Both will last a good while. I'm partial to Carpenter jeans, as I like the extra pockets, but that's you're own preferance. I buy my Dickies at Wal-Mart.
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Same problem here. I just go with chinos/khakis/etc. Comfort improved drastically when I switched to them.
It is, however, embarrassing to be shaped like J-lo.
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I'm partial to the LL Bean hidden comfort jeans.. perfect short fat guy jeans for me.
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Khaki carpenter pants. I made the transition to them. I know you can too. =)
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Walmart Faded Glory or Wranglers. Both cheap, good quality, and come in a standard jeans blue color, also many "relaxed fit" style size options.
Wal-Mart Faded Glory jeans are junk/trash/detritus/[insert denegrating description of choice]. They fit badly and wear worse.
Best deal going in jeans is, however, at Wal-Mart: Rustler Jeans (made by Wrangler, possibly as a Wal-Mart exclusive). They are real jeans, they fit well (not made only for skinny guys), and they wear very well. And they only cost 10 bucks a pair.
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Walmart Faded Glory or Wranglers. Both cheap, good quality, and come in a standard jeans blue color, also many "relaxed fit" style size options.
+1. My goto jeans when I don't feel like shopping for "stylish" ones. Or, as Hawkmoon said, I've also had good luck with the "rustler" jeans.
Another surprising deal is often to be had at Old Navy. They've got jeans that are just jeans and quite often as cheap as Walmart and very comfortable and durable.
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Wal-Mart Faded Glory jeans are junk/trash/detritus/[insert denegrating description of choice]. They fit badly and wear worse.
I dunno, I've had two pairs of them for two years now and they're worn specifically for manual labor, hunting fishing, etc. They've worn fine and they fit pretty good too. But then I can only speak for my Adonis-like body of steel.
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Another vote for Wrangler "Rugged Wear". Two pair have lasted for me going on, I think, six years. Pot-bellied fatass, here, and I can comfortably wear IWB holsters in the relaxed fit.
SADShooter
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Khaki carpenter pants. I made the transition to them. I know you can too. =)
NOOOO (kicks and screams) NOOOO!!! You can't make me! Noooo!! :'(
=D
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Carhart? Carhart? Holy cow, I drive by their outlet on 44th Ave in Golden a lot. Never thought of them for blue jeans. I thought everything they made was in Colorado Clay Tan.
I also noticed that the little army-navy store in Olde Town Arvada just off of Olde Wadsworth has Carhart stuff.
I shall check that out next time I go past their outlet.
I get Dickies workpants at Wal-Mart and wear them to the office. Only trouble with them is their damned belt loops are too small.
And this seems to be true of all pants: they put a belt loop right where the holster should hang. Gr.
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When I wear a holster (rare these days) I put it right behind the loop. I use the loop like an index for where the holster should be. Personal preference of course.
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My problem with jean fit, is that I have a big butt, basically, but I don't have a beer belly. So all factory-made jeans that fit my waist are far too tight in the seat.
Wrangler Cowboy Cut (the infamous "13MWZ" tag code). Cut big through the butt and upper leg. Available at Sears, online, and pretty much every western outfitter and farm & ranch supply on the planet.
Brad
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Huh! If jeans aren't doing it for you, why not abandon jeans?
Google "custom fit tailored blue jeans," take out a second (or third or fourth) mortgage, and do the deed.
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Sams club. $13. Lasts me for 2 years, provided I don't accidentaly set them on fire before then. ;)
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Riggs Workwear by Wrangler or Carharts.
Both wore real well for me when I was in the trades.
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Riggs workwear, I kind of like the contractor jeans. Relaxed fit a few extra poclets and the rear pockets are cordura lined. For dress up I go for the Wrangler 13MWZ pressed with a nice crease over well polished black cowboy boots.
Of late for working around the shop and garden I have re-discovered bib overalls Dickies and Roundhouse work well for me.
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Carhart? Carhart? Holy cow, I drive by their outlet on 44th Ave in Golden a lot. Never thought of them for blue jeans. I thought everything they made was in Colorado Clay Tan.
I often wish I had Carhart money. =|
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Don't know if this helps you, but I shrank from a 42x34 to a 38x34 in Old Navy sizes and all the sudden jeans fit me really well...
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I often wish I had Carhart money. =|
You get what you pay for. I beat the ever loving crap out of them and they last at least two years. Really, if the barrel didn't wear through the pocket they'd last me well over 3. I can't recall ever catching them on fire either. :lol:
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I gave up jeans after re-discovering the Columbia Rugged Outdoor Chinos. I have the opposite problem as you (large waist, no butt), and the Columbias are easy to adjust to any body type. And the material is tough as denim, but a lot lighter....great in the Texas summers (which last until December here)....
If you're still interested in blue jeans, look for a Wrangler Outlet store. You can get some great deals on jeans there....like $10-12 per pair or less....
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I have the opposite problem, compounded by the fact that I'm just over 6' 6" tall. It is *really* hard to find fat man jeans with long leg.
Best jeans I've found anywhere are the house brand at Cabela's. And I can actually get sturdy demin or canvas jeans that are long enough for about $20 a pair. Sometimes cheaper when they are on sale.
If Cabela's has something you can wear, the price will be right and they are well-made.
if you have a hamrick's (http://www.hamrickshosting.com/hamricks/index.html) or dillard's (http://www.dillards.com/) locally, they normally have them. but if they don't sell well, just one or too pairs of each size in each color.(they're in a separate area, you might have to ask most times it's behind the men's section) otherwise try here (http://www.kingsizedirect.com/). but there sizes seem random on each item. like on too different shirts in the same size one will be really loose, and on another it just barely fits. ???
oh and timberland pro (http://www.timberland.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=1761131&cp=1779791.1761083), but they are really high. and walmart has dickie's (http://www.dickies.com/) to, but i don't know what sizes they make.
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I happen to like Wal-Mart's Faded Glory jeans. They fit me very nicely and the price is right.
They do live up to their name though, losing about 10% of their color with each washing. :lol:
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and after 25 to 30 washings they just go down the drain so you don't have to throw them out. :lol:
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and after 25 to 30 washings they just go down the drain so you don't have to throw them out. :lol:
See, Walmart DOES care about the environment...
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Don't know if this helps you, but I shrank from a 42x34 to a 38x34 in Old Navy sizes and all the sudden jeans fit me really well...
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Wal-Mart Faded Glory jeans are junk/trash/detritus/[insert denegrating description of choice]. They fit badly and wear worse.
Best deal going in jeans is, however, at Wal-Mart: Rustler Jeans (made by Wrangler, possibly as a Wal-Mart exclusive). They are real jeans, they fit well (not made only for skinny guys), and they wear very well. And they only cost 10 bucks a pair.
Wranglers and Rustlers here. I do just fine buying them at Wally World, with only one problem - they practically *NEVER* have my size (currently 44W/32L). They have literally every other size, including 48W/26L (honest to God, they had 3 pair last time I went!), but they are consistently out of my size. When I wore 42W/32L, I could never find THOSE, but 44W/32L were plentiful, then it reversed when I gained weight and went up in pant size - now that I'm dropping body fat and waist size again, I expect the 42's to drop out of sight again. ;/
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So buy them now as an incentive to keep at it! :angel:
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Wow, a bunch of cross dressers in this thread.
You guys aren't allowed to pick on me anymore.
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Wow, a bunch of cross dressers in this thread.
You guys aren't allowed to pick on me anymore.
I have to buy "ladies" boots in order to get a narrow width (B). ;/
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Wow, a bunch of cross dressers in this thread.
You guys aren't allowed to pick on me anymore.
...at least we wear pants.....
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Another plug for Carhart jeans. Higher end price at around 25-30 a pair, but just feel them compared to cheapo jeans. The heft alone is impressive. They're good and heavy, and last easily 50% longer than the average Sam's club jeans. I like Member's Mark ( ??? Think that's the brand ), they're comfy, but they fall apart if you beat on them.
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Well, the thread's kind of drifted away from my priorities. My problem is fit, combined with the fact that off-the-shelf jeans keep getting increasingly 'fashionized', reducing my possible choices. Since I'm a sissy engineer type, durability isn't a great concern for me...I only wear jeans at work because that's what I've always worn, and I can fit knives/flashlights in the pockets and wear a real belt. I could easily wear non-jean-pants, but I have the same big-butt/thighs+nonfat waist problem with Docker type pants as with jeans. My problem with Dockers is that they have wimpy pockets and belt loops. I have some good-fitting cargo pants, but cargo pants are just a little casual for work.
When I bought a suit for job interviews, tailoring was included, and damn if those suit pants didn't fit just pretty nice. Suit pants are completely worthless for working in, though, so that's why I'm starting to think I should buy some jeans and have them tailored. I'm not sure if it's more expensive to get jeans tailored though.
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Well, the thread's kind of drifted away from my priorities.
Harumph!....who died and made you OP?.... ;/
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...at least we wear pants.....
I wear MAN pants. All day long.
Even in my sleep.
So there.
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I wear MAN pants. All day long.
Even in my sleep.
So there.
Does your boyfriend know you stole them?
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Does your boyfriend know you stole them?
Well said, sir.... =D
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I wear MAN pants. All day long.
Even in my sleep.
So there.
So, you're a MACHO kind of man?? I think a certain vocal group has a song for ya :angel:
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Carhart? Carhart? Holy cow, I drive by their outlet on 44th Ave in Golden a lot. Never thought of them for blue jeans. I thought everything they made was in Colorado Clay Tan.
I also noticed that the little army-navy store in Olde Town Arvada just off of Olde Wadsworth has Carhart stuff.
I shall check that out next time I go past their outlet.
I get Dickies workpants at Wal-Mart and wear them to the office. Only trouble with them is their damned belt loops are too small.
And this seems to be true of all pants: they put a belt loop right where the holster should hang. Gr.
The Army-Navy store is expensive. Fun, but pricey
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^ True, it is a fun store. But I don't bother comparing prices when I'm there simply because it's kind of a one-stop-shopping place and it's small enough that I don't need a phart cart to get around the store with. Lotsa narrow little aisles full of goodies.
They do (or used to) sell ammo there. Don't know if they still do, just haven't been down thataway in a while.
Terry, 230RN
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I didnt see any the last time I was in there(4 days ago), but I wasnt looking for it. They are the only place I could find calcium carbide, so I bought 2 cans.
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So, you're a MACHO kind of man?? I think a certain vocal group has a song for ya :angel:
No, no. I'm a manly man. There is a difference.
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Check out the jeans at Duluth Trading Company.
These are the only jeans I buy anymore. Great fit, very durable, deep cordura-lined pockets (the waistband and leg opening are canvas lined as well), a diamond shaped crotch gusset for comfort (they are called ballroom jeans for a reason, lol). And they run about $40 a pair. More expensive than wal mart jeans, but at my size (6'8"/340 and losing) I'm willing to pay for quality clothes. My first pair lasted 3 years of heavy wear. Their stuff is very Carhartt like but the sizing is a bit more generous for the same price.
W
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while your at DTC remember to check these out. ;) (http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/clothes-workwear/mens/mens-outerwear/mens-non-insulated-jackets/93009.aspx?feature=product_3) i've been meaning to order one of these well i can't remember how long. :facepalm: they have many ummmmm, handy coats in such.
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The firehose pants I have from Duluth Trading Company are quite good. Very comfortable for working on remodeling and such around the house. A little more heavy-duty than what I'd wear daily, but great for construction-ish work.
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Levi's 560 jeans is what I prefer.