As I said, I don't have strong feelings on the integrity of the election overall, because there's a lot of smoke, but no visible flames. No real evidence. I'm fully aware that the election system has proven to be
designed in such a way that there can be no real proof found, and that is it's own issue. I agree that the red flags abound on Biden's side, and had a real audit been possible, it may have been very illuminating. But it wasn't possible, so it didn't happen.
I was only commenting on the folks that claim that the sheer number 81 million defies belief, and only then with a question.
Just think about it for a minute. If Biden's vote totals are believable (as you are implying), then turnout must have been exceptionally high in that election. If that was the case, Trump's numbers are more believable, not less.
Right. We agree. Other than the fact that I wasn't implying anything about Biden's numbers. I was implying that the election turnout numbers were linked in believability. Both candidates had unusually high numbers.
I will add that I think you underestimate how polarizing Trump was among the "Republicans and independents that were too nervous to vote Trump in 2016" crowd. He, and his media enemies, managed to instill just a ton of unfounded hate in a lot of independents that I met around the country. They were voting for Biden despite the good course the economy was on, and the lack of world ending moves by Trump, just because they hated him. I think that's where a lot of the Biden buyers remorse is coming from now. I have no real evidence of that, it's just my feeling from talking to people around the country.