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Re: Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #50 on: February 17, 2014, 05:45:56 PM »
1. Folks are used to 4-door cars being good performers, nowadays.

Muscle Era had 4 doors with same engines as the 2 door models.

I'm really starting to think it some side impact safety regulation why 2 doors aren't that available in longer wheel bases.
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Re: Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2014, 08:13:56 PM »
Also the little doors on the smaller cars just don't open into a big enough opening to put items the back seat of the car.

2 door coupe sedan, you open the bigger door, flip the seat forward and there is a lot of room to put things in it.


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I've had two coupes from the 70s and 80s, but don't miss that layout.
  what I do miss us the buick and chrysler land yachts that had no permanent pillar between the front and rear windows.
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Re: Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2014, 08:53:26 PM »
Yep,
I've had two coupes from the 70s and 80s, but don't miss that layout.
  what I do miss us the buick and chrysler land yachts that had no permanent pillar between the front and rear windows.

My Brother had a 1970 Ford Galaxy like that back in 1992 with a 390. A pretty fast tank down the road.

My 1968 Plymouth Satellite with a 383 walked all over it, but I had more HP and less weight. Yea for those light Mopar B bodies.

I wish I still had that car, there wasn't very many of them made in that configuration.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2014, 10:19:50 PM »
My Brother had a 1970 Ford Galaxy like that back in 1992 with a 390. A pretty fast tank down the road.

My 1968 Plymouth Satellite with a 383 walked all over it, but I had more HP and less weight. Yea for those light Mopar B bodies.

I wish I still had that car, there wasn't very many of them made in that configuration.

Dad owned a 1970 or 1971 plymouth fury police interceptor.  440cid v8 under the hood witheither a 4bbl or 3 2bbl carbs.  He lovd yhe way it handled.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2014, 10:35:36 PM »
Dad owned a 1970 or 1971 plymouth fury police interceptor.  440cid v8 under the hood witheither a 4bbl or 3 2bbl carbs.  He lovd yhe way it handled.

Ford made the Police Intercepter, Mopar was Police Pursuit.

If it was a true police car package it would have been a 440 with 4bbl carb in a 1970.

1971 Fury Pursuit also came with a 360 4bbl in some packages.
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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2014, 10:39:11 PM »
My dad bought a used 1968 Pontiac Catalina station wagon when we were wee youngsters.

One of our local counties had decided the sheriff's department could share a ride with the medical examiner.

They ordered it from Michigan with the 455 Police Interceptor Package, believe it or not. Hence, a giddyup Poncho wagon.  And boy, did it giddyup!

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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2014, 11:08:40 AM »
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2014, 04:35:31 PM »
Ford made the Police Intercepter, Mopar was Police Pursuit.

If it was a true police car package it would have been a 440 with 4bbl carb in a 1970.

1971 Fury Pursuit also came with a 360 4bbl in some packages.

we had an old black and white fury from the nys thruway action.  I'm not sure what the model was called, but the engine was the 440 interceptor, as I recall.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2014, 05:25:53 PM »
we had an old black and white fury from the nys thruway action.  I'm not sure what the model was called, but the engine was the 440 interceptor, as I recall.

Intercepter is a Ford name.

The Police 440 from Mopar had all forged internals for longevity under severe usage.

It would have been the 440 HP that was in the Police Pursuit cars.

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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2014, 05:57:08 PM »
My dad bought a used 1968 Pontiac Catalina station wagon when we were wee youngsters.

One of our local counties had decided the sheriff's department could share a ride with the medical examiner.

They ordered it from Michigan with the 455 Police Interceptor Package, believe it or not. Hence, a giddyup Poncho wagon.  And boy, did it giddyup!


A friend of my Dad's still has a 68 Catalina convertible (In bright red!). Not a 455, 400 IIRC.Sweet car.
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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2014, 09:29:36 AM »
We had a 68 Bonneville when I was a kid.  I thought the pointy nose was awesome.  Dad loved the engine, a 428 HO.  He talks about it to this day.  Apparently it made stupid good power... when it wasn't eating timing chains.

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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2014, 09:38:38 AM »
We had a 68 Bonneville when I was a kid.  I thought the pointy nose was awesome.  Dad loved the engine, a 428 HO.  He talks about it to this day.  Apparently it made stupid good power... when it wasn't eating timing chains.

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Probably the 428 HO with 390 HP from the factory.
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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #62 on: February 19, 2014, 09:42:51 AM »
My muscle car if I had a gazillion dollars.



It would be the two tone seafoam mopar green with painted white top and wing.

Not sure about the 440 six pack or a 426 Hemi for the power plant.

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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2014, 10:04:43 AM »
I always wanted an '87 Buick GNX- there's a guy a few houses down from me that actually has one.
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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2014, 10:09:10 AM »
I always wanted an '87 Buick GNX- there's a guy a few houses down from me that actually has one.

I've drove one, they got some nuts for an American made 1980's vehicle.
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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2014, 10:13:28 AM »
But i want another fun car.



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Newish. Like, I don't want something 20 years old that I'm gonna have to wrench on ALL the time. No time for that really at this point.

It's newer than the '67, and like most cars, if you wrench on it right once, you won't have to again for a while.  Bonus is that at least you can wrench on it.  I'd say about half the cars I see on the side of the road or on wreckers are less than three years old.  I'd be willing to bet whatever is wrong with them is either impossible on a '68, (ECM failure? Yeah right.) or would fixable on a classic with hand tools in less time than it takes to get a wrecker there.  My 1997 Saturn likes to remind me how much more I'd be able to do if there was actually room around the engine to get to stuff.  (Don't get me started on the 5 hours it took to change the belt tensioner due to having to make two trips for more tools (regular socket wouldn't reach, deep wouldn't fit in the space between the bolt and sidewall) and disassemble a lot of stuff that shouldn't have been an issue.)

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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2014, 08:09:03 PM »
A T bucket kit is a few years down the road too. I like how the newer powerful cars can get HP close to 400 with pretty decent gas mileage

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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2014, 08:19:37 PM »
A T bucket kit is a few years down the road too. I like how the newer powerful cars can get HP close to 400 with pretty decent gas mileage



Computers are amazing aren't they.

There is a difference in driving a 375 HP big block with a mechanical secondary carburetor vs a 375 HP fuel injected computer controlled big block. The newer technology is so much more consistent HP/Torque across the power band but that being said I just love the throw you in the back seat when the secondary kicks in on the carburetor.
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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2014, 09:18:52 PM »
Computers are amazing aren't they.

There is a difference in driving a 375 HP big block with a mechanical secondary carburetor vs a 375 HP fuel injected computer controlled big block. The newer technology is so much more consistent HP/Torque across the power band but that being said I just love the throw you in the back seat when the secondary kicks in on the carburetor.

I agree that the old stuff has that certain "something"

My favorite car to drive was my grandfather's relatively anemic 64 corvette. It wasn't the amount of power that made it a hoot, it was how suddenly it hit.
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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2014, 10:15:54 AM »
While not traditional, and not V8 powered, the current-gen Taurus SHO is damned impressive.  Plus it's roomy, comfy, good looking, and handles like a dream.

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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2014, 12:28:04 PM »
While not traditional, and not V8 powered, the current-gen Taurus SHO is damned impressive.  Plus it's roomy, comfy, good looking, and handles like a dream.

Brad

Boy, I lusted over the first-gen SHO.  They put out a prototype SHO wagon and I that was even hotter.
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Re: 4 door muscle?
« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2014, 12:39:53 PM »
I had a first gen.  Fantastic car to drive, hideously expensive to own once you were out of the warranty.  EVERYTHING on that car was specific to the SHO, even the damned battery.  (Well, everything except the starter, which it shared with the garden variety Vulcan 3.0 that Ford was putting in everything.)  The wondermous little Yamahammer engine was bulletproof.  The accessories, not so much.  And don't even get me started on clutches...

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