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I wonder if the same could be said of many of our non-military sensitive points such as electric power stations, water treatment plants, public transportation systems, internet co-locations, radio and TV transmitters, und so weiter.  Surely you can think of others, and so can "they."



It absolutely could be said of many non military infrastructure items, people, and places.
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Gleaned:

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Retired Air Force Brig. Gen. John Teichert told NewsNation this surveillance tactic from the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is not new and “certainly isn’t the only way they are actively surveilling the U.S.”

“Just watching pattern of life and gathering open source intelligence provides them a lot of opportunity to understand our security practices,” Teichert said. “When you piece a lot of these data points together, then you come up with an overall idea of our capabilities or readiness and our vulnerabilities.”

A bit here, a factoid there....

I wonder if the same could be said of many of our non-military sensitive points such as electric power stations, water treatment plants, public transportation systems, internet co-locations, radio and TV transmitters, und so weiter.  Surely you can think of others, and so can "they."

Radio engineer Paul Harmon arrives at WRKN-TV's transmitter location every morning at 8:47 +/- 4 minutes.

Big deal, right?

Radio engineer Paul Harmon's two kids Georgiana and Steven arrive at their school, Park Hill Elementary, at 7:50 AM +/- 11 minutes driven by his wife Henrietta.

Big deal, right?

As one of our posters has frequently said, "Paranoia is a survival trait."

Terry, 230RN
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The Roundtable / Re: Buck Shot
« Last post by dogmush on Today at 02:19:10 PM »
Why just partisans?  Looking at content out of Ukraine, the regular forces are using tons of little drones with grenades or suicide drones with bigger charges.  I saw one video showing they identified trenches feeding into a tunnel/bunker that they couldn't get grenades into.  They flew a suicide drone in with a larger charge, landed on top, and blew a big hole and collapsed the tunnel. 

Looks like it is going to be a regular part of warfare going forward unless there is some serious hacking or area denial developments.  I assume the drones will get better as the big defense industries get their own product lines.  I guess we are seeing some of that already.

I said that post was for partisans because regular forces (at least US ones) have other ways to counter drones than shooting them with shotguns.  That's going to end up being a more partisans/asymmetric warfare solution.

And while you don't need heavy shot because the drones are pretty fragile, it will still be a challenge.  They tend to loiter at higher altitudes than most birdshot/bird/clay engagements, and they move a LOT faster.  I'm nowhere near a good enough shotgunner to tell you what shot size/choke you need but I can tell you you are looking at a target no more than 2' in size, maybe smaller, 300-500 foot away and capable of 60-80 mph, and very abrupt direction changes.  Those videos you see from Ukraine of a dude being chased are more of a final approach than how they hunt.

I can tell you that the Army played a little with trying our current issue shotguns and shells against small drones and decided that was not a great answer.

You are correct though, these things are going to be a part of warfare going forward both near peer and asymmetric.
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The Roundtable / Re: The Doge dog has died
« Last post by 230RN on Today at 01:41:48 PM »
Very sad.  Reminds me of all the four legged friends I've lost.  I still have the ashes of most of them.  My yellow lab waterfowl dog Inge has "Inge of Valhalla --A Champion to Me" engraved on her urn.  About ten-eleven years old when she died.

I still keep my favorite cat's ashes with me in my living room.  What a friend that kitty was.  He passed away resting under a chair in my dining room and I only realized it after a couple of hours of him not moving.  Approximately 15 yo, but I haven't checked that out for this post either.

I'm just an old softie.

Terry, 230RN
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Politics / Re: Israel Under Attack
« Last post by Hawkmoon on Today at 01:35:01 PM »
Asking which river and which sea are being referred to in 'From the river to the sea Palestine will be free' is a hostile act

They have no idea what they're chanting even means. Not shocking to me at least.

WATCH: Pro-Gaza mom is stumped by DailyMail's question on which river and sea are in the anti-Israel chant at daughter's 'High Schoolers for Gaza' rally
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13457259/pro-gaza-protester-interview-river-sea-question.html

Wow! And this is from someone who claims to have "a lot" of public relations experience. Not good, Adrienne.
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There seems to be a lot of truth to that. In recent weeks I've watched a number of police pursuit videos on YouTube, especially many that feature Arkansas State Troopers stopping pursuits by the PIT (a.k.a. TVI) maneuver. Idiots get pulled over for something like a burned out taillight bulb and, instead of accepting a warning that might cost them the price of a new bulb, they take off at speeds faster than I thought may of the involved vehicles were capable of and end up with the vehicle being planted in the weeds -- and often rolling over multiple times.

When the troopers finally put the cuffs on them (because fleeing is a felony in Arkansas) and ask why they ran, most of the time the answer is, "I was scared."

Often, the trooper is black. It makes no sense at all ... until you recognize that the puppet masters are teaching these kids that authority is evil.

The truth of the matter is they run because they have warrants, drugs, weapons, stolen goods, stolen car, etc.




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The Roundtable / Re: Buck Shot
« Last post by MechAg94 on Today at 01:25:01 PM »
How much would the extra shot slow down the velocity?
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The media, and their teachers, have embedded in these kids the belief that if they get pulled over by the police, for any reason, they are going to be executed by the side of the road. Which leads to them immediately panicking, and coming out shooting.

There seems to be a lot of truth to that. In recent weeks I've watched a number of police pursuit videos on YouTube, especially many that feature Arkansas State Troopers stopping pursuits by the PIT (a.k.a. TVI) maneuver. Idiots get pulled over for something like a burned out taillight bulb and, instead of accepting a warning that might cost them the price of a new bulb, they take off at speeds faster than I thought may of the involved vehicles were capable of and end up with the vehicle being planted in the weeds -- and often rolling over multiple times.

When the troopers finally put the cuffs on them (because fleeing is a felony in Arkansas) and ask why they ran, most of the time the answer is, "I was scared."

Often, the trooper is black. It makes no sense at all ... until you recognize that the puppet masters are teaching these kids that authority is evil.
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The Mess Hall / Re: Ground Bison Stir Fry
« Last post by Ben on Today at 12:36:53 PM »
an oyster sauce among other things. 

Veering my own thread again, what is oyster sauce? I see it called for in a lot of Asian recipes. All I can think of when I read the name is oysters that have had the juice squished out of them.  :laugh:

What does it actually taste like?

I took more bison out of the freezer today to make the stir fry once again tomorrow.  =)
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Biden should be impeached just for that ridiculous statement that his 21 year old staff twitter tranny wrote for him.
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