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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MillCreek on April 12, 2018, 04:34:23 PM
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https://www.sfgate.com/living/article/Mother-peanut-butter-allergy-Target-child-12826097.php
A lot of people apparently think so. On the one hand, I can see the point of someone who has a child with a peanut allergy. On the other hand, you cannot expect the world at large to be allergen-free.
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How many other potential dangers would the parent have hauled their kid near to get to the Target store before being downwind of peanut butter?
I think this has become a modern day SJW cause.
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JFCOAFPSEAPBAJS!
Less than 2% of of kids have a peanut allergy. Of those, only a small percentage have a dangerous reaction to peanuts. This is typical leftist bullshit: "Because my child has a rare problem, you must change everything to bend to my will." Bring on the Great Plague and let the Grand Cleansing begin!
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Heinlein would say our culture has been overrun by Mrs. Grundy . . . .
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JFCOAFPSEAPBAJS!
Less than 2% of of kids have a peanut allergy. Of those, only a small percentage have a dangerous reaction to peanuts. This is typical leftist bullshit: "Because my child has a rare problem, you must change everything to bend to my will." Bring on the Great Plague and let the Grand Cleansing begin!
It's worse than that. Because a child somewhere might have a rare problem, you have to change everything.
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It would have been wonderful to have this SJW confront MY mother when I was a youngster eating a PB&J sandwich . . . her ears would still be ringing from the verbal beat-down she would have received, which would have been delivered without any actual profanity. =D
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If your delicate little snow flake is that fragile, keep it home or in a bubble. And *expletive deleted*ck off while you're at it.
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If your delicate little snow flake is that fragile, keep it home or in a bubble. And *expletive deleted*ck off while you're at it.
My sentiments exactly.
Most stores today have wipes available where the carts are parked. If your little tyke has severe allergies, use the wipes to wipe down the surfaces your kid could touch when sitting in the cart. And teach your kid not to like shopping cart handles. That's a disgusting habit, anyway.
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They shoulda just said it was soy nut butter or something.
But: While I automatically distrust any statements of "fact" begining with "according to" or "studies show," I wonder if the subject of this thread might actually be of real concern.
Sep 22, 2015
Nut-free schools — they're here to stay. And for thousands of parents to kids with serious allergies, that's not just a good thing; it's a lifesaving policy.
According to Food Allergy Research and Education, a nonprofit organization that "works on behalf of the 15 million Americans with food allergies," one in every 13 children is affected by possibly deadly food allergies, which include serious allergies to peanuts and tree nuts. Even being in the vicinity of peanut dust or residue can trigger life-threatening reactions in some children. It's why many schools go nut-free.
https://mashable.com/2015/09/22/nut-free-spreads/#YO5h4AfPXZqw
Needs more study on my part before I personally start condemning folks as SJWs on account of the possible dangers of peanut allergies.
It does seem these sensitivities can change over time. E.g., I believe I've developed a mild allergy to garlic over 79 years. I know I'm very allergic to incense as burned in thuribles in RC high mass ceremonies in church. Even "household" incense from another apartment gets to me if I don't start changing the air in the place pretty quick.
Even watching this makes me gasp a little. (0:41):
https://youtu.be/0a4L52GzEZw
Details if interested. (11:23):
https://youtu.be/AY59IUggkrE
Terry, 230RN
REF (One BMF thurible):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botafumeiro
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They can have my peanut butter when they scrape it from the roof of my cold dead mouth.
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There was also the SJW freakout when the kid from Stranger Things gave out PBJs to the audience at the 2016 Emmy's.
They shoulda just said it was soy nut butter or something.
But: While I automatically distrust any statements of "fact" begining with "according to" or "studies show," I wonder if the subject of this thread might actually be of real concern.
Sep 22, 2015
Nut-free schools — they're here to stay. And for thousands of parents to kids with serious allergies, that's not just a good thing; it's a lifesaving policy.
According to Food Allergy Research and Education, a nonprofit organization that "works on behalf of the 15 million Americans with food allergies," one in every 13 children is affected by possibly deadly food allergies, which include serious allergies to peanuts and tree nuts. Even being in the vicinity of peanut dust or residue can trigger life-threatening reactions in some children. It's why many schools go nut-free.
https://mashable.com/2015/09/22/nut-free-spreads/#YO5h4AfPXZqw
Needs more study on my part before I personally start condemning folks as SJWs on account of the possible dangers of peanut allergies.
It does seem these sensitivities can change over time. E.g., I believe I've developed a mild allergy to garlic over 79 years. I know I'm very allergic to incense as used in RC high mass ceremonies in church, and even "household" incense from another apartment gets to me if I don't start changing the air in the place pretty quick.
Even watching this makes me gasp a little. (0:41)
https://youtu.be/0a4L52GzEZw
Terrible thurible Terry, 230RN
1 in 13 are affected? I find this doubtful. Or they are playing word games, "possibly deadly". Probably more like 1 in 13 are affected in some way, all the way from pretty much nothing even noticeable to a deadly reaction, with a great majority in no reaction at all and most to foods that they would of never ate to begin with.
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1 in 13 are affected? I find this doubtful. Or they are playing word games, "possibly deadly". Probably more like 1 in 13 are affected in some way, all the way from pretty much nothing even noticeable to a deadly reaction, with a great majority in no reaction at all and most to foods that they would of never ate to begin with.
I suspect this is much more the case. If they want to make schools nut-free, that's okay with me. But the world is not allergen-free. I'm allergic to several things, and I've learned not to eat or touch those things. There are no rules against poison ivy, tomatoes, peppers, or eggplant, and I don't need rules to know that I'm allergic. My brother is highly allergic to shellfish. There are no regulations against clams, crabmeat, or lobsters. He just knows not to eat those things.
This is all part of the progressive dumbing down of the populace, and the nanny state mentality. Individuals aren't ever responsible for their own actions or taking care of themselves -- the gooberment must be in charge of every aspect of our lives.
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I believe I've developed a mild allergy to garlic over 79 years.
Have you tried driving a wooden stake through your heart just to make sure?
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Are they trying to make us hate anyone with a peanut allergy? These must be the same idiots that block traffic for black lives.
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Quote from: 230RN on Today at 07:42:02 PM
"I believe I've developed a mild allergy to garlic over 79 years."
Have you tried driving a wooden stake through your heart just to make sure?
Dang-nab it, I never thought I could be turning into a vampire... or is it a werewolf? I get mixed up about those east European critters.
:rofl:
Come to think of it, I do have to shave my nose...
Terrifying Terry
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Why don't they worry about the fact that Target sells peanut butter. If a tiny piece of a sandwich is a threat to everybody in the store a case of Peter Pan would have the potential danger of a neutron bomb.
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Why don't they worry about the fact that Target sells peanut butter. If a tiny piece of a sandwich is a threat to everybody in the store a case of Peter Pan would have the potential danger of a neutron bomb.
They should walk it out of the store for you, like buying a gun at Wal-Mart.
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I would NEVER feed my child a PB&J in a shopping cart.
Of course, I pretty much don't feed my children anything in shopping carts. Those things are germ receptacles.
Now I'm rather annoyed I can't bring myself to do it, though. These people are insane.
Look, I'm sorry your child has a deadly allergy (which may have been made so by our INSANE reaction to such a minuscule portion of the population that has such deadly allergies), but it's YOUR job to keep them safe.
If incidental touch of remnants of peanuts means they are going to die, you probably shouldn't be bringing them out in public.
(Also, I believe that treatment exists to move the allergy from "YOU'RE GOING TO DIE" to "that gives me discomfort and pain." Look up some doctors that will work on "training the immune system" for peanut allergies.)
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I just recall hearing commentary on the radio. The guy said he had talked to a few school district superintendents about how many kids had those issues. The answer was about one or two students in the entire district. IMO, this attitude is why we spend so much on grade school education these days.
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IMO, this attitude is why we spend so much on grade school education these days.
I think it is also a dangerous precedent in that we are "socializing" all these kids into a particular perspective that will follow them into adulthood, when they will vote.
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I just recall hearing commentary on the radio. The guy said he had talked to a few school district superintendents about how many kids had those issues. The answer was about one or two students in the entire district. IMO, this attitude is why we spend so much on grade school education these days.
Yes.
Also the "mainstreaming" of children with learning and/or behavioral issues. When a teacher's attention is basically on the one child that disrupts the class for everyone, EVERY child suffers.
"But, it's not FAIR to separate the other child! They will feel disconnected and ostracized!"
Well, that's sad. Maybe we ought to allow people to put their children in school where they can be best served, rather than create a "one-size fits all" education that is then graded on how well the worst perform?
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I would NEVER feed my child a PB&J in a shopping cart.
Of course, I pretty much don't feed my children anything in shopping carts. Those things are germ receptacles.
Now I'm rather annoyed I can't bring myself to do it, though. These people are insane.
Look, I'm sorry your child has a deadly allergy (which may have been made so by our INSANE reaction to such a minuscule portion of the population that has such deadly allergies), but it's YOUR job to keep them safe. If incidental touch of remnants of peanuts means they are going to die, you probably shouldn't be bringing them out in public.
(Also, I believe that treatment exists to move the allergy from "YOU'RE GOING TO DIE" to "that gives me discomfort and pain." Look up some doctors that will work on "training the immune system" for peanut allergies.)
What a hateful thing to say! You're trying to take away their victim status and specialness. (Mainly, it's a status thing for Mom.)
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Having a child makes you a monster.
Not having a child makes you a monster.
Being a monster makes you a monster.
That's why I hate people. They're all monsters.
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Having a child makes you a monster.
Not having a child makes you a monster.
Being a monster makes you a monster.
That's why I hate people. They're all monsters.
There's a big difference between the monsters with children and the monsters without children:
I have 4 more monsters to unleash upon the world than the childless monsters.
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Monster? ..... what monster? >:D
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I'll make a deal. They can wipe peanuts off the earth, so long as they take these damned pine trees with them.
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I'll make a deal. They can wipe peanuts off the earth, so long as they take these damned pine trees with them.
I am allergic to an absence of pine trees. You Monster!
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I'll make a deal. They can wipe peanuts off the earth, so long as they take these damned pine trees with them.
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Don't take away my Peanut Butter. Saltine crackers and peanut butter is damn near a staple food.
I remember eating peanut butter out of old ration cans my Dad had. He was still in the reserves when I was a kid.
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Also the "mainstreaming" of children with learning and/or behavioral issues. When a teacher's attention is basically on the one child that disrupts the class for everyone, EVERY child suffers.
"But, it's not FAIR to separate the other child! They will feel disconnected and ostracized!"
There's another problem here - put a problem child with hehavioral issues into a mainstream class, and the OTHER young children will become VERY angry and resentful when the problem child gets away with things that THEY get punished for. This will cause all kinds of major problems in short order.
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Don't take away my Peanut Butter. Saltine crackers and peanut butter is damn near a staple food.
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A recommended sweet snack: ritz cracker, spread with peanut butter, put a whole marshmallow on top and run under the broiler until the marshmallow is toasted to your liking. Eat.
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This is such an important issue I'm motivated to start a foundation to protect our Nation's most precious resource, our children, from the pernicious scourge of these items. It's long past time vigorously pummel these alleged "foods" into submission and out of our society! And like with the saintly gun-control movement that is finally listening to the voices of our youths we will enlist children to be on the front-lines of this most-important issue.
To that end my foundation - Bustin' Nuts with Kids- will seek to end nut-hegemony first in the USA and then everywhere else.
Please donate today!
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There's another problem here - put a problem child with hehavioral issues into a mainstream class, and the OTHER young children will become VERY angry and resentful when the problem child gets away with things that THEY get punished for. This will cause all kinds of major problems in short order.
That's a feature, not a bug.
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I'm allergic to pollen and spores. They cause me great discomfort and violate my safe space. I demand that all plant life be eliminated and replaced by hypoallergenic decor.
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I'm allergic to pollen and spores. They cause me great discomfort and violate my safe space. I demand that all plant life be eliminated and replaced by hypoallergenic decor.
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Did I read that in the Out of the Silent Planet series? Maybe not, but it sounds familiar.
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Did I read that in the Out of the Silent Planet series? Maybe not, but it sounds familiar.
Yup, it's in there.
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Don't take away my Peanut Butter. Saltine crackers and peanut butter is damn near a staple food.
I remember eating peanut butter out of old ration cans my Dad had. He was still in the reserves when I was a kid.
"Peany bucker" spread in the trough of a crisp celery stick with a little salt is a delicious snack.
Terry, and yeah, I still say "libererry," too, because it used to P.O. my mother. >:D Oh, and Febue-erry. Spaghetti I'm OK on.
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"Peany bucker" spread in the trough of a crisp celery stick with a little salt is a delicious snack.
They used to serve these at lunch when I was in grade school. Killed thousands of kids I'm sure. Maybe that's why I love PB in celery to this day.
Sometimes I simplify things by using the celery as a spoon to eat the PB directly out of the jar.
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New plan:
I will replace the G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate we normally spray with peanut butter infused Pax.
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New plan:
I will replace the G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate we normally spray with peanut butter infused Pax.
WIN !!!!
I, personally, am allergic to stupidity...
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And the real problem? Hyperactive crazy mothers and the society that applauds them. Feed the kids age appropriate peanut products at six months. Get them around animals. Let them get covered in dirt and eat boogers. Yes there will always be some allergies, but our idea that we can sterilize the world has made it worse.
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To that end my foundation - Bustin' Nuts with Kids- will seek to end nut-hegemony first in the USA and then everywhere else.
:facepalm: :laugh:
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New plan:
I will replace the G-23 Paxilon Hydrochlorate we normally spray with peanut butter infused Pax.
and add some Gluten into that mix....
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Yeah, put your un-vaccinated brat in a shopping cart with snot dripping down it's face but god forbid exposure to peanut butter. ;/
This is like the retards that got all snotty about people doing horse and dog laundry at the laundry mat "because people wash their baby clothes here and it's unhygienic"
It's a *expletive deleted*ing laundry mat. Trust me, the people laundry is probably twice as unhygienic as the animal laundry, with the baby clothes being the top offender for grossness going into those machines.
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Yeah, put your un-vaccinated brat in a shopping cart with snot dripping down it's face but god forbid exposure to peanut butter. ;/
This is like the retards that got all snotty about people doing horse and dog laundry at the laundry mat "because people wash their baby clothes here and it's unhygienic"
It's a *expletive deleted*ing laundry mat. Trust me, the people laundry is probably twice as unhygienic as the animal laundry, with the baby clothes being the top offender for grossness going into those machines.
Hell, plenty of people bring cloths to the laundromat for the specific reason they're so nasty they don't want to put them in their own washer
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Kids need to be exposed to potential (minor) pathogens.
Grandma would give me a spoon and a bucket and allow me to get so muddy I looked like a troll. Let 'em play in the mud. Let 'em drink from garden hoses. We've become "so clean" our children's immune systems run amok when exposed to anything. Let them play in the mud; they'll be happy as hell and have strong immune systems. Let them get bumps and bruises.
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Hell, plenty of people bring cloths to the laundromat for the specific reason they're so nasty they don't want to put them in their own washer
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Yeah, well, if they want to ban stuff from the machines for the sake of public health they should go after the people who use really heavily perfumed detergents and such.
I don't have much an issue with those things (I can't use fabric softener, but that's just a mild rash) but I know people who do and I can tell you, I've opened machines to put stuff in them and almost been knocked out by the detergent used on the last load. I actually stopped using unscented detergent and started using one with a milder scent that I like just to avoid having my clothes with random scents from other peoples detergent.
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About six months ago. Commuting by airplane to the oil fields in Alaska:
http://www.akbizmag.com/Alaska-Business-Monthly/October-2017/Commuting-to-the-North-Slope/
On board the planes, the flight attendants—who are ConocoÂPhillips’ employees—deliver safety briefings and serve passengers peanuts during the flight. “Besides there not being a cocktail, it’s very much like a commercial airline,” says Kevin Robbins, ConocoPhillips’ Aviation Alaska manager.
Heh.
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A Boeing 737-700 owned by Shared Services Aviation is seen at Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport. Shared Services is a co-venture of ConocoPhillips and BP. Its three jets and two propeller aircraft are 50 percent owned by each company, but ConocoPhillips operates the service.
Image and caption by ConocoPhillips
Terry, 230RN
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^^^ So the plane crashed and all aboard were killed because peanuts? Or everyone aboard died, then the plane crashed because peanuts? The article didn't explain that part very well.
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Do airlines not serve peanuts?
I don't think I've flown since 1 Jan, 2000.
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Do airlines not serve peanuts?
I don't think I've flown since 1 Jan, 2000.
Southwest still does, I think. My airline does not, but we sometimes have cashews or almonds.
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American serves pretzels. Little, tiny, toy pretzels. I think there might be ten in a bag. One bag per customer in coach.
I think if I ever have to fly again, I'll be an aero-terrorist, and bring my own PB&J sammiches.
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Robert's last year in Park District Baseball, some hyper-protective mommy threatened to sue the park district because her precious snowflake was allergic to peanuts and she found some peanut shells in the dugout on one of the fields.
So not only were peanuts banned from being eaten in the dugouts during practices and games, but ALL "nuts", to include sunflower seeds. For anyone that has kids in baseball or softball, sunflower seed hulls are the main ingredient of soil of the dugouts.
Someone always just has to suck the fun out of everything.
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Southwest still does, I think. My airline does not, but we sometimes have cashews or almonds.
Aren't you still using peanut oil based chemtrail juice?
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Southwest still does, I think. My airline does not, but we sometimes have cashews or almonds.
Technically, aren't cashews not nuts?
https://paleoflourish.com/are-cashews-nuts-legumes-drupes
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Aren't you still using peanut oil based chemtrail juice?
Nah, we went green. We only use recycled, but not filtered, oil from the fryers on fast food restaurants.
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Technically, aren't cashews not nuts?
https://paleoflourish.com/are-cashews-nuts-legumes-drupes
Yes, and technically neither are peanuts. Those are legumes.
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"So not only were peanuts banned from being eaten in the dugouts during practices and games, but ALL "nuts", to include sunflower seeds. "
Rather insane, considering that sunflower seeds are one of the primary replacements for peanuts. Sunbutter is actually pretty good.
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"So not only were peanuts banned from being eaten in the dugouts during practices and games, but ALL "nuts", to include sunflower seeds. "
Rather insane, considering that sunflower seeds are one of the primary replacements for peanuts. Sunbutter is actually pretty good.
Some ignorant person might *think* they are nuts and have a panic attack. Not sure why we have to protect people from psychosomatic allergies.
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When nuts are outlawed, only outlaws will have nuts.
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"during practices and games"
So it's OK to go chow down on peanuts in the dugouts before the games?
Need to check into pricing for peanut hay square bales to use as overflow seating, too. Used to love getting round bales of it, since they still had quite a few peanuts on them so we had extra snacks to go with whatever was in season while we were looking for a good spot to drop the next bale.
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"Not sure why we have to protect people from psychosomatic allergies."
Word.
Especially when electroshock therapy is so effective.
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Robert's last year in Park District Baseball, some hyper-protective mommy threatened to sue the park district because her precious snowflake was allergic to peanuts and she found some peanut shells in the dugout on one of the fields.
So not only were peanuts banned from being eaten in the dugouts during practices and games, but ALL "nuts", to include sunflower seeds. For anyone that has kids in baseball or softball, sunflower seed hulls are the main ingredient of soil of the dugouts.
Someone always just has to suck the fun out of everything.
And spit. You forgot spit. Or is that just the grownup leagues?
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And spit. You forgot spit. Or is that just the grownup leagues?
That's the binder...along with chewing gum.
"So not only were peanuts banned from being eaten in the dugouts during practices and games, but ALL "nuts", to include sunflower seeds. "
Rather insane, considering that sunflower seeds are one of the primary replacements for peanuts. Sunbutter is actually pretty good.
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